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Another idea is to make klia2 the new FSC terminal - since many say that it is nicer than KLIA.

 

Then the old KLIA can become the new LCCT.

 

The vast majority of LCC flights are operated by narrowbodies. The current KLIA isn't designed for that.

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The vast majority of LCC flights are operated by narrowbodies. The current KLIA isn't designed for that.

Care to elaborate?

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The infrastructures e.g. boarding gates, aircraft stands... etc are mainly catered to widebody aircraft. Changi also have the same problem which is why they started renovating the boarding gates and changed the aerobridges to accommodate 2 narrowbody aircraft on one stand.

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Excellent proposal - means KLIA's MTB and Satellite will require major makeover. KLIA2 will also need to be rebuilt to accommodate the heavies and make it dugong compatible too. More works, more projeks :D

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The vast majority of LCC flights are operated by narrowbodies. The current KLIA isn't designed for that.

 

You mean the MTB? The gate allows 1 widebody or 2 narrowbody to park.

 

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I think it is logic that KLIA would try to accommodate the home fleet, which in this case MH with its majority B737s. Likewise Changi with SQ, only SQ majority is widebody. Makes economic sense. Only problem is there is no insufficient parking at MTB too.

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Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) is said to be in the preliminary stages of planning for another satellite building at the KL International Airport (KLIA).

The new satellite building will have more than 30 gates to cater for 25 million passengers. Initial estimates say it will cost nearly RM2bil.

The original plan for KLIA was to have four satellite buildings, each to cater for 25 million passengers, totalling 100 million passengers.

There may also be plans to dedicate one satellite building for the oneworld alliance members.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/B...ort-to-expand/

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I am happy to see the signage is ONLY in Bahasa (big) and English. That's how if should remain.

 

I hope they will not add other languages like KLIA. (based on number of passengers from certain countries/region? come on...)

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KLIA2's safety to be evaluated

PETALING JAYA: An independent consultant has been appointed by the Government to evaluate the safety of the Kuala Lumpur International Airport 2 (KLIA2) following the circulation of photos depicting cracks at the aircraft parking area.

Acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein said the consul­tant, Ikram Premier Consulting, will examine the safety of the airport taxiway, apron, runway and surrounding areas and submit an initial report directly to the Prime Minister early next week.

“While KLIA2 is a commercial project, I will try my best to ensure that safety is guaranteed and remains a priority for all parties, based on the country’s interest in the iconic project,” said Hishammuddin.

He said the Cabinet decided to appoint an independent consultant following a statement by the Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) that cracks in the outer areas of the KLIA2 (terminal) would not affect the safety of the aircraft.

Last Thursday, DCA director-general Datuk Azharuddin Abd Rahman said the cracks were superficial and were not a structural defect, and that the airport would start operating as scheduled on May 2.

His statement followed an online news portal report showing photos of cracks on the airport apron.

Officials later said the photos were several months old and that the cracks had already been repaired.

The Star earlier highlighted the issue in a report on Feb 5 on how the new airport had failed in its fitness test.

Hishammuddin said the Fire and Rescue Department had issued approval for the KLIA2 terminal building.

“The Operational Readiness and Airport Transfer testing is underway and going smoothly.

“Staff members of the businesses, vendors and government agencies have begun entering the terminal to clean up and prepare their respective premises and offices,” said Hishammuddin.

He added that Parliament’s Public Accounts Committee would visit the new airport next week, followed by several other Members of Parliament.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/07/KLIA2s-safety-to-be-evaluated-Govt-appoints-independent-consultant-to-examine-airport-and-surroundi/

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I am happy to see the signage is ONLY in Bahasa (big) and English. That's how if should remain.

 

I hope they will not add other languages like KLIA. (based on number of passengers from certain countries/region? come on...)

What's wrong with providing additional languages on the signs though?

 

That said, no matter how many languages the signs have, if they are not accurate or do not factor in ergonomics they might as well not be there. That's why those road signs along major roads here are essentially useless to me.

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I am happy to see the signage is ONLY in Bahasa (big) and English. That's how if should remain.

 

I hope they will not add other languages like KLIA. (based on number of passengers from certain countries/region? come on...)

 

For an airport to be user friendly, it should have various languages, that would certainly attract more people but knowing Malaysia and our airports, they do not provide customer services nor support to those in need, like ground staff assisting pax around the airport. In fact, i doubt that Malaysia Airports can provide such services because it is not important to them. So if they have language friendly signage's, it would certainly help people who might not be fluent or conversant in English nor Malay.

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What's wrong with providing additional languages on the signs though?

 

That said, no matter how many languages the signs have, if they are not accurate or do not factor in ergonomics they might as well not be there. That's why those road signs along major roads here are essentially useless to me.

Road signs in Malaysia is mean for people who know the road.

 

If foreign visitors are unimportant or unwelcome, sign or direction in their language is unnecessary.

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Road signs in Malaysia is mean for people who know the road.

 

If foreign visitors are unimportant or unwelcome, sign or direction in their language is unnecessary.

 

So how many language do we need on our signage? How do you decide which language should be up there?

 

I don't see Bahasa in any signage at other airports and that doesn't make feel unwelcome.

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KLIA2's safety to be evaluated

PETALING JAYA: An independent consultant has been appointed by the Government to evaluate the safety of the Kuala Lumpur International Airport 2 (KLIA2) following the circulation of photos depicting cracks at the aircraft parking area.

Acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein said the consul­tant, Ikram Premier Consulting, will examine the safety of the airport taxiway, apron, runway and surrounding areas and submit an initial report directly to the Prime Minister early next week.

“While KLIA2 is a commercial project, I will try my best to ensure that safety is guaranteed and remains a priority for all parties, based on the country’s interest in the iconic project,” said Hishammuddin.

He said the Cabinet decided to appoint an independent consultant following a statement by the Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) that cracks in the outer areas of the KLIA2 (terminal) would not affect the safety of the aircraft.

Last Thursday, DCA director-general Datuk Azharuddin Abd Rahman said the cracks were superficial and were not a structural defect, and that the airport would start operating as scheduled on May 2.

His statement followed an online news portal report showing photos of cracks on the airport apron.

Officials later said the photos were several months old and that the cracks had already been repaired.

The Star earlier highlighted the issue in a report on Feb 5 on how the new airport had failed in its fitness test.

Hishammuddin said the Fire and Rescue Department had issued approval for the KLIA2 terminal building.

“The Operational Readiness and Airport Transfer testing is underway and going smoothly.

“Staff members of the businesses, vendors and government agencies have begun entering the terminal to clean up and prepare their respective premises and offices,” said Hishammuddin.

He added that Parliament’s Public Accounts Committee would visit the new airport next week, followed by several other Members of Parliament.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/07/KLIA2s-safety-to-be-evaluated-Govt-appoints-independent-consultant-to-examine-airport-and-surroundi/

 

Appoint independent consultant to evaluate safety? Shouldn't it be clear as crystal that it should not have come to this stage. And do you need independent expert to evaluate safety? Grrrr....

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The authorities are finding it hard to adjust to these new trend of photos going to social media and they have to address it. not like last time (before the age of facebook and all), they just build what they like, to the standard they "feel" safe, and handover to public use. the cronies will be able to collect payment and whatever maintenance can wait until cow comes home.

 

nowadays, little little defect is being shared all over cyberspace and they need stop-gap measure.

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There's nothing wrong with signs in other languages. Whenever I was in KUL, I noticed a lot of Japanese, Chinese and Arabic tourists. If these signs make their transit easier, why not having more languages other than Bahasa and English?

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For an international airport, usually we have minimum of two local languages and two int'l languages. Bahasa Malaysia (enshrined in Constitution), English (Universal language), Mandarin/ Tamil/ Hindu, Japanese and Arabic. These five languages are often seen at large Asian airport like Changi, Hong Kong and Tokyo. Again, how the signage turns out depends on the business and tourists crowd that the country is targeting.

 

For example:

Vancouver International Airport has English, Canadian French and Mandarin.

Tokyo Narita has Japanese, English and Mandarin.

Changi has English, Mandarin, Japanese and Malay.

 

Having only one local language and one international language at KLIA2 is s laughing stock in international arena. Bear in mind AirAsia carries a lot of tourists from East Asia: Mainland Chinese, Taiwan, Korea and Japan.

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Yes international airports see passengers from all over the world. By having a few more languages on their signboards, more passengers will find the airport facilities more user friendly. They pay airport tax too - so they have a right to some service from the airport. MAHB definitely has the statistics of where most of the pax arrivals are from - so it should not be difficult to select the languages that are needed on their signboards.

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An independent consultant has been appointed by the Government to evaluate the safety of the Kuala Lumpur International Airport 2 (KLIA2) following the circulation of photos depicting cracks at the aircraft parking area

I'm interested in the sentiments of the assembly of consultants (architects, M&E, civil engineers, etc) that have already been expensively engaged to oversee KLIA2's coming to be

Does this measure indicate gahmen has now lost confidence in professionalism and credibility of these ...... well, professionals ? :)

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Tokyo Narita has Japanese, English and Mandarin.

And Korean too. Seoul Incheon has all these four languages as well.

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For an international airport, usually we have minimum of two local languages and two int'l languages. Bahasa Malaysia (enshrined in Constitution), English (Universal language), Mandarin/ Tamil/ Hindu, Japanese and Arabic. These five languages are often seen at large Asian airport like Changi, Hong Kong and Tokyo. Again, how the signage turns out depends on the business and tourists crowd that the country is targeting.

 

For example:

Vancouver International Airport has English, Canadian French and Mandarin.

Tokyo Narita has Japanese, English and Mandarin.

Changi has English, Mandarin, Japanese and Malay.

 

Having only one local language and one international language at KLIA2 is s laughing stock in international arena. Bear in mind AirAsia carries a lot of tourists from East Asia: Mainland Chinese, Taiwan, Korea and Japan.

 

well said. just english and bahasa is insufficient.

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At MEL, we have dual signage, English (Australia's national language) & recently have Mandarin throughout all the signs in Terminal 2 (International) due to the influx of Chinese visitors coming into Melbourne.

 

Announcements are made in English plus the language of the destination city, GA flights have announcements in Bahasa, VN in Vietnamese, CX in Cantonese and Mandarin, TG in Thai etc... I don't think D7 has announcements unless the flight is delayed, they don't even try to fetch pax when the flights are in final call.

 

For some odd reason, the Qantas Terminal (T1) has Japanese signage here and there.

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At MEL, we have dual signage, English (Australia's national language) & recently have Mandarin throughout all the signs in Terminal 2 (International) due to the influx of Chinese visitors coming into Melbourne.

 

Announcements are made in English plus the language of the destination city, GA flights have announcements in Bahasa, VN in Vietnamese, CX in Cantonese and Mandarin, TG in Thai etc... I don't think D7 has announcements unless the flight is delayed, they don't even try to fetch pax when the flights are in final call.

 

For some odd reason, the Qantas Terminal (T1) has Japanese signage here and there.

Does some of the Japan bound Jetstar flight operates from T1?

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klia2 likely to miss deadline again

The Edge Malaysia | By Cynthia Blemin of theedgemalaysia.com

Friday, 07 March 2014 13:08

http://www.theedgeproperty.com/news-a-views/12264.html

 

KUALA LUMPUR: klia2 in Sepang, which is still targeting a May 2 opening, may once again miss the deadline as its major tenant, AirAsia Bhd, is unlikely to be able to complete renovation works at the main terminal building with less than two months to go.

 

It is learnt that AirAsia, which is expected to take up about 80% of the space at the new low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT), would need at least three months to complete renovation works at the main terminal building.

 

However, as of yesterday, The Edge Financial Daily was made to understand that the budget airline has yet to make any preparations to move into the building.

 

AirAsia will also be required to move its aircraft support services from the present LCCT, which was originally designed as a temporary terminal and will later be turned into a cargo warehouse once klia2 is ready.

 

In a statement yesterday, AirAsia said it has yet to receive any official notification from Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) for the airline to operate out of klia2.

 

“We were informed that the Cabinet on Feb 26, 2014 had agreed to appoint independent qualified technical advisors to address the issues that recently surfaced.

 

“For AirAsia, the safety and interest of our passengers are our utmost priority. We look forward to moving to our new home and start operations at klia2 as soon as every aspect of the new terminal has been certified safe,” it said.

 

AirAsia also reiterated its request for a service level agreement (SLA) from MAHB that includes “indemnification on safety, timeliness of the project, and assurance of the safety of lives and its assets”.

 

“We are committed to grow klia2 and make Malaysia the next global hub like Dubai, but to facilitate this, we need our partners to understand the low cost business model and provide certain guarantees so we can carry over the cost savings to our passengers,” said AirAsia, adding that there are “other unresolved issues such as the check-in systems” which it is working with MAHB to resolve.

 

It is understood that at the most recent national ORAT (Operational Readiness and Airport Transfer) steering committee meeting on Monday, chaired by Transport Ministry secretary-general Datuk Long See Wool, all klia2 stakeholders comprising commercial retailers, government agencies like the Customs and Immigration Department as well as the various airlines including AirAsia did not raise any issue about meeting the May 2 opening date.

 

When contacted yesterday, Malindo Airways Sdn Bhd chief executive officer Chandran Rama Muthy told The Edge Financial Daily that the hybrid airline is already making preparations to start with renovation works at the main terminal building and to move into its new home on May 2.

 

“We want to be the first to land at klia2,” he said, adding that the airline would continue to offer competitive fares out of klia2.

 

In a statement on Tuesday, MAHB said ORAT is currently ongoing to prepare the airport for the May 2 opening date.

 

“The ORAT working committee, chaired by MAHB senior general manager of operations Datuk Azmi Murad, communicates and monitors the progress of the airport readiness and preparation for the airport transfer on a regular basis.

 

“The opening date of May 2 has been communicated clearly to all stakeholders including airlines, government regulatory agencies, and recorded at these regular meetings.

 

“At the recent national ORAT steering committee meeting, it was reiterated that the government is firm on the opening date of May 2 for klia2 and that all stakeholders must work together to ensure the seamless and successful opening of the national project,” MAHB said.

 

klia2 was initially scheduled for opening on June 28, 2013 but it was postponed to May 2 this year. The joint venture company between UEM Construction Sdn Bhd and Bina Puri Holdings Bhd – the contractor for the main terminal building – was blamed for the delay as it was unable to complete the work by the June 15, 2013 deadline.

 

More recently, doubts on the new opening date arose after the UEMC-Bina Puri JV failed to issue the Certificate of Completion and Compliance (CCC) for the klia2 terminal building according to the stipulated timeframe.

 

However, the contractor is reportedly currently rectifying the sewerage system in order to issue the CCC to MAHB by mid-April.

 

 

This article first appeared in The Edge Financial Daily, on March 07, 2014.

 

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