Craig 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) From MAVCOM, MH has applied and been approved for the following new/resumed routes and frequency increases (doesn't mean they will but they intend to do the following): BKI-NNG 2x738 BKI-TSN 3x738 KUL-PVG 7x333 + 7x738 (announced) KUL-HAK 2x738 (announced) KUL-CKG 3x738 KUL-CTU 5x738 KUL-FOC 3x738 (announced) KUL-NKG 3x738 (announced) KUL-WUH 3x738 (announced) KUL-DEL 4x333 + 6x738 (reflected in GDS) KUL-BOM 5x333 + 5x738 KUL-SUB 4x738 KUL-ICN 10x333 KUL-TPE 11x738 KUL-HAN 10x738 Edited June 20, 2017 by Craig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jani 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2017 KUL-SUB is welcome. Was shocked to find it wasn't flying there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2017 KUL-SUB is welcome. Was shocked to find it wasn't flying there. MH used to fly there with their own metal for some time until suspension in Jan 6, 2012, it was under Ahmad Jauhari's era. http://travel.cnn.com/explorations/escape/malaysia-airlines-drops-eight-routes-470821/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lim Kar Yong 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2017 KUL-ICN increased to 10x! Loads must have been very healthy to justify the increase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted June 21, 2017 KUL-ICN increased to 10x! Loads must have been very healthy to justify the increase.But still unable to justify revisiting BKI-ICN ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh T 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2017 They need to return to BNE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom/PER 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/273431/malaysia-airlines-ends-darwin-service-in-late-july-2017/ DRW flights cancelled from the end of July.. Edited June 22, 2017 by Tom/PER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted June 22, 2017 They need to return to BNE. They might once their wide body aircraft shortage is eased. Right now, the A333s are sent on routes that have the higher yields. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) But still unable to justify revisiting BKI-ICN ..... And compete with a myriad of LCC operating that route? They need to return to BNE. They might once their wide body aircraft shortage is eased. Right now, the A333s are sent on routes that have the higher yields. Not possible unless D7/MH/OD reduces capacity/frequency to MEL/SYD/BNE/PER. Malaysian carriers only have 480 unallocated weekly seats to those cities. In the link referenced above, D7 also applied for 7 weekly A333 flights to BNE recently and had exhausted almost all MY carriers capacity to AU. So forget about 380 to SYD/MEL during the summer peak unless there's a new bilateral in place or someone reduces their flights. Edited June 22, 2017 by Craig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom/PER 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2017 So what about the rumoured OD services to SYD and MEL once 'if' their A333's arrive later this year? Does this dispelled this rumour and provide an indication that they'll be used on Jeddah flights? There was a posting on a well known pilots forum earlier that OD were going to do trans Tasman services via an Aussie port. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted June 22, 2017 And compete with a myriad of LCC operating that route? I think what BC was referring to was the lack of Malaysian based airline plying this route, which is currently 100% covered by Korean carriers. Back in the old days MH flew this route with A330 along with KE and OZ. Of the currently airlines plying this route - RS, LJ, ZE and 7C, perhaps only ZE is truly LCC?. Even the best low cost carrier in the world don't dare to touch this route. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) I think what BC was referring to was the lack of Malaysian based airline plying this route, which is currently 100% covered by Korean carriers. That's true, but most of the traffic are ex-KR especially in the winter. If MH flew this route, it'd pretty much rely on O&D between BKI and Seoul. Korean carriers that fly this route rely on O&D plus their domestic Korean market and maybe China/Japan making it more viable. Here's the list of recently approved MY-AU city pairs (from the Malaysian government): - 4 weekly A333 KUL-BNE by D7 (1,508 seats each week) - 4 weekly A333 KUL-MEL by OD (1,568 seats each week) Remaining capacity: 480 seats each week Edited June 22, 2017 by Craig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kee Hooi Yen 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2017 OD's A333 has denser seating configure than D7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tktoh 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 KL-DARWIN route losing money in 10 years - CEO https://www.nst.com.my/business/2017/06/251535/kl-darwin-route-losing-money-10-years-says-mas-ceo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Tan 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 KL-DARWIN route losing money in 10 years - CEO https://www.nst.com.my/business/2017/06/251535/kl-darwin-route-losing-money-10-years-says-mas-ceo Losing money for 10 years? Is he counting the combined number of years MAS has been flying to DRW? They only resumed flights in 2013 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jahur 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Losing money for 10 years? Is he counting the combined number of years MAS has been flying to DRW? They only resumed flights in 2013 Should be combined. With the way how mas operates their yield management, many sectors are not profiting even with high loads. They only seem to be focusing volume now. Cant blame much also as mas customers are mostly promo low end fare seekers premium pax have fled. Majority of fliers in malaysia would just opt for the cheapest fare on any airline regardless of products and services onboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Should be combined. With the way how mas operates their yield management, many sectors are not profiting even with high loads. They only seem to be focusing volume now. Cant blame much also as mas customers are mostly promo low end fare seekers premium pax have fled. Majority of fliers in malaysia would just opt for the cheapest fare on any airline regardless of products and services onboard. MH doesn't offer any service that warrant premium pricing from its competitors. Hence, most would only choose MH if its fare is the cheapest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 MH doesn't offer any service that warrant premium pricing from its competitors. Hence, most would only choose MH if its fare is the cheapest. Sounds familiar, BA is facing the same issue. To be honest Darwin is not worth the investment, MI is trying to make it work with tag-on with Cairns. Royal Brunei, AirAsia and Garuda have left long time ago. I am particularly more worried with the statement: " Bellew said four routes were on the “red list”, with flights to Australia and New Zealand, in particular, suffering." Which AU/NZ routes are currently bleeding? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alif A. F. 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 BKI-PER probably is one of them. With only 1x per week? Better deploy the aircraft somewhere else more productive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kandiah k 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 Maybe KUL-PER as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) Sounds familiar, BA is facing the same issue. To be honest Darwin is not worth the investment, MI is trying to make it work with tag-on with Cairns. Royal Brunei, AirAsia and Garuda have left long time ago. I am particularly more worried with the statement: " Bellew said four routes were on the red list, with flights to Australia and New Zealand, in particular, suffering." Which AU/NZ routes are currently bleeding? After a fsc behave like LCC, customers will consider the airlines and pricing like LCC. Even if the airlines upgraded itself, it will take a few years for customers to be convinced and pay the premium pricing. Edited June 23, 2017 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 KL-DARWIN route losing money in 10 years - CEO https://www.nst.com.my/business/2017/06/251535/kl-darwin-route-losing-money-10-years-says-mas-ceo Please terminate the other 3 routes too. KUL-AKL is one of them. MH only have 1 destination in New Zealand. Bellew should do news like this more often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) MH doesn't offer any service that warrant premium pricing from its competitors. Hence, most would only choose MH if its fare is the cheapest. Don't most people shop based on fares now - even if it's RM1 difference? SQ with its ultra-luxurious Y (kinda oxymoron if you ask me) is cutting back on Y services. I am particularly more worried with the statement: " Bellew said four routes were on the “red list”, with flights to Australia and New Zealand, in particular, suffering." 4 routes on the "red list" but he didn't say all 4 routes are AU/NZ. I would take it with a grain of salt - DRW is an example (he said 10 years but MH barely served there for the past 5 years). On another article, he did say he wanted to increase capacity to AU/NZ. From AUSBT: However, the airline says that despite dumping Darwin "we are working toward announcing frequency increases to Adelaide, Auckland and Perth in the future, while Sydney and Melbourne will likely see peak season capacity increases with our flagship A380s". PER/SYD/MEL capacity increases aren't possible at the moment due to bilateral restrictions. AKL makes sense during their summer. Edited June 23, 2017 by Craig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2017 Blame DRW not able to entice more tourists and hence lead to termination of service? or blame MH for not able to attract more pax on the flight and hence lead to this aftermath? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raj 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2017 BNE on the cards and plans for PER double daily. https://www.ausbt.com.au/malaysia-airlines-plans-return-to-brisbane-more-flights-to-perth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
