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MAB A350-900 Regional Flights to PEN, BKK, SIN & BKI from 9 December 2017


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#41 Craig

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 12:37 PM

MH is not in the same league as SQ, so it's best not to compare to them. However, just a slight tweak in the seat will make it way better for passengers. Instead of Vantage (1-2-1 // 1-2-2 alternate seating), go with Vantage XL (all 1-2-1) like what Qantas has and it's all good.

 

But then again, I was very happy with the 2014 price for the current MH 380 J seats. So even if they use the 380 J seats for the 350 whilst maintaining the same 2014 price, I'd be a happy camper.



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Posted 18 April 2016 - 12:43 PM

Agree, Malaysia does not attract the same kind of premium travellers as Singapore does. So to try to one up them on their J product will not do as well, not to mention Changi has more direct connection to more international destination than KLIA does.

 

true... no point using luxurious J product like SQ and EY, and ended up with empty cabin... talk about revenue first



#43 DaTan

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 01:36 PM

What I mean is that it better be an improvement from the current A330 seats. Something such as cup holders and compartment for smartphone as seen in CX. These are lacking in MH's fleet

#44 RaymondT

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 02:26 PM

MH is not in the same league as SQ, so it's best not to compare to them. However, just a slight tweak in the seat will make it way better for passengers. Instead of Vantage (1-2-1 // 1-2-2 alternate seating), go with Vantage XL (all 1-2-1) like what Qantas has and it's all good.

 

But then again, I was very happy with the 2014 price for the current MH 380 J seats. So even if they use the 380 J seats for the 350 whilst maintaining the same 2014 price, I'd be a happy camper.

 

I do like the fact that MAS has that 2 couple seats by the window. I would definitely be picking those two seats when I fly to Japan at the end of this year.

DaTan, on 18 Apr 2016 - 1:36 PM, said:

What I mean is that it better be an improvement from the current A330 seats. Something such as cup holders and compartment for smartphone as seen in CX. These are lacking in MH's fleet

 

That has more to do with MAB's choice of customisation on their seats. Check out JetBlue which uses the same Thompson Vantage on their A320 series. It even comes with a private suite for the "Throne" seats!

http://www.jetblue.c...n-jetblue/mint/



#45 Lim Kar Yong

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 04:07 PM

 

I do like the fact that MAS has that 2 couple seats by the window. I would definitely be picking those two seats when I fly to Japan at the end of this year.

DaTan, on 18 Apr 2016 - 1:36 PM, said:

 

That has more to do with MAB's choice of customisation on their seats. Check out JetBlue which uses the same Thompson Vantage on their A320 series. It even comes with a private suite for the "Throne" seats!

http://www.jetblue.c...n-jetblue/mint/

 

 

Wow. If JetBlue could do this for a narrow body, imagine what it could be if this is also installed for MAB/s B738, especially those that are used to fly more than 3 hrs? Just dreaming lah .... 



#46 RaymondT

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 07:43 PM

 

 

Wow. If JetBlue could do this for a narrow body, imagine what it could be if this is also installed for MAB/s B738, especially those that are used to fly more than 3 hrs? Just dreaming lah .... 

 

JetBlue only has it on their narrow body travelling between the East & West Coast of the USA. That's a 6 hours flight there.

But MH could use it for some of their longer haul narrow body flights.... like India/Darwin etc?



#47 KK Lee

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 11:16 PM

MH is not in the same league as SQ, so it's best not to compare to them. However, just a slight tweak in the seat will make it way better for passengers. Instead of Vantage (1-2-1 // 1-2-2 alternate seating), go with Vantage XL (all 1-2-1) like what Qantas has and it's all good.

 

But then again, I was very happy with the 2014 price for the current MH 380 J seats. So even if they use the 380 J seats for the 350 whilst maintaining the same 2014 price, I'd be a happy camper.

 

 

true... no point using luxurious J product like SQ and EY, and ended up with empty cabin... talk about revenue first

 

Agree, Malaysia does not attract the same kind of premium travellers as Singapore does. So to try to one up them on their J product will not do as well, not to mention Changi has more direct connection to more international destination than KLIA does.

 

Over 70% of QR, EK and EY pax transit through their hubs. If MH could attract pax from other cities, O&D KUL pax won't be critical. However, given MH treatment to J class on regional, except cheap fare, few reason to take MH.


Edited by KK Lee, 18 April 2016 - 11:17 PM.


#48 RaymondT

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 08:55 AM

 

 

 

Over 70% of QR, EK and EY pax transit through their hubs. If MH could attract pax from other cities, O&D KUL pax won't be critical. However, given MH treatment to J class on regional, except cheap fare, few reason to take MH.

Yeah.. no alcohol for one..

QR, EK and EY has a very large wide body fleet, and a very extensive network as well. J class travellers would have a very consistent product throughout their network and with lots of destination to choose from as well. (Except EK which has a superior J hard product on their A380 and a weaker one on their 777).

Don't think MH is in a position to target those markets any time soon, not to mention our premium lounge @ KLIA leaves a lot to be desired when compared to many other industry leading lounges.



#49 flee

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 09:17 AM

The whole purpose of the MAS reboot is to enable it to get back to basics - the airline has lost its founding principles and purpose. So it should go back to its humble roots again and rebuild its business.

 

At this stage, any grand ideas should be postponed. They should get all the basics of airline operations correct first. When it is on a firm foundation, it can then try to build upon that.



#50 Chris Tan

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 09:36 AM

Yeah.. no alcohol for one..

QR, EK and EY has a very large wide body fleet, and a very extensive network as well. J class travellers would have a very consistent product throughout their network and with lots of destination to choose from as well. (Except EK which has a superior J hard product on their A380 and a weaker one on their 777).

Unlike EK, QR and EY don't have pure-widebody fleets. You'll still find A319/320s on regional and even European routes.

#51 KK Lee

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 10:51 AM

Unlike EK, QR and EY don't have pure-widebody fleets. You'll still find A319/320s on regional and even European routes.

 

QR don't compromise their service level on A320/321 to Europe.



#52 RaymondT

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 11:37 AM

Unlike EK, QR and EY don't have pure-widebody fleets. You'll still find A319/320s on regional and even European routes.

From memory, QR has lie flat business products on their narrow bodies.

Edit: A photo I found on Airliners.net
Source Link: http://www.airliners...103cfc4d653e7ca
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Edited by RaymondT, 19 April 2016 - 11:38 AM.


#53 KK Lee

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 11:50 AM

From memory, QR has lie flat business products on their narrow bodies.

Edit: A photo I found on Airliners.net
Source Link: http://www.airliners...103cfc4d653e7ca

 

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QR A320 J class seat is lie flat


Edited by KK Lee, 19 April 2016 - 11:51 AM.


#54 Mushrif A

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 12:22 PM

Those lie flats are available on a small number of QR A320s. Not all A320s.
Similarly, GF's A320s have lie flats biz seats too which I think are superior to those on QR's A320s. GF uses these mostly on European flights.

#55 DaTan

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 04:48 PM

Vantage XL for A350 should be good enough. It will be on par with the CX long haul seats



#56 David.W

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 05:24 PM

http://www.therakyat...us-a350-planes/

KUALA LUMPUR, 23 May 2016:

Malaysia Airlines Bhd (MAB) has exercised a 12-year lease agreement for an additional two new Airbus A350-900s with Air Lease Corporation (ALC), which will be delivered by 2018.

The transaction is pursuant to the option provided under the existing lease agreement for four A350-900s signed by both parties in September last year, it said in a statement today.

“The additional two Airbus A350-900s will complement the existing four that is on order to reach a critical fleet size, allowing standby aircraft for any scheduled maintenance and enabling future network expansion,” said MAB chief executive officer Christoph Mueller.

Powered by two Rolls Royce Trent XWB-84 engines, the A350 aircraft are from ALC’s order book with Airbus.

“Technological and innovative advancements make flying this aircraft a real pleasure and it will bring a whole new experience to our offerings, with the aircraft able to operate non-stop from Kuala Lumpur to London and throughout Asia.”



#57 Mohd Azizul Ramli

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 06:19 PM

OMG, do they really need 6 A359 on top of 6 A380 (assuming the 6 A380 will stay since nobody wants them on the secondary market)?

 

I hope Mueller is involved in this decision and there's a solid reason for it.



#58 Izanee

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 07:35 PM

Maybe they want to restart CDG or AMS. Will be such a shame if they didn't ...

#59 flee

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 09:46 PM

I think MH may want to deploy the A359 to AKL because currently, their A333s are flying with capacity restrictions. They may also want to put it on one or two of the China routes as demand from the Chinese market has picked up.

 

As for the A380s, I think MH may be able to sell them to BA and/or EK. We have seen EK order two new A380s for expansion and they may take ex-MH planes too, now that they are also partners.



#60 Lim Kar Yong

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 10:11 PM

I think MH may want to deploy the A359 to AKL because currently, their A333s are flying with capacity restrictions. They may also want to put it on one or two of the China routes as demand from the Chinese market has picked up.

 

As for the A380s, I think MH may be able to sell them to BA and/or EK. We have seen EK order two new A380s for expansion and they may take ex-MH planes too, now that they are also partners.

 

Sorry - this may be a bit off topic. I am just wondering about A333 to Auckland with capacity restrictions. TK also uses A333 between KUL and IST, and I think both city pairs of KUL-AKL and KUL-IST are about the same distance. Is this due to weather conditions, or other factors? Pardon my ignorance for raising this. 
 






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