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#2501 Chris Tan

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 01:02 AM

Love him or hate him all we want, but aviation industry needs him to keep both Airbus and Boeing honest. You are spending billions in your aircraft of course you can demand quality products. Despite the blockage against his country, Qatar Airways has not shown any sign of shrinking, adding numerous annually, bought out Air Italy, Cathay Pacific, IAG Group and LATAM Group. It goes to show he is one of the biggest movers and shakers of aviation world.

He might lead an airline that many adore (including myself), but that doesn't make him a saint. You think the airline emerged from blockade unscathed? Ask Al Baker if he thought the airline could pull through without turning to the government for (even more) help. Or whether he could go on a shopping spree without getting blank cheques from the government. Those purchases around the world are not to be mistaken as a demonstration of the airline's success. Unless, of course, one chooses to ignore the political part of the equation.

Let's not be so naive in thinking that QR is a rags to riches story :)

#2502 JuliusWong

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 08:54 AM

He might lead an airline that many adore (including myself), but that doesn't make him a saint. You think the airline emerged from blockade unscathed? Ask Al Baker if he thought the airline could pull through without turning to the government for (even more) help. Or whether he could go on a shopping spree without getting blank cheques from the government. Those purchases around the world are not to be mistaken as a demonstration of the airline's success. Unless, of course, one chooses to ignore the political part of the equation.

Let's not be so naive in thinking that QR is a rags to riches story :)

No, I am not that naive to think so, too bad other airlines do not have such generous government to give out blank paycheck as Qatar Government does, or having a government to turn to when politic environment gets tight, but does that matter because at the end of the day Baker continue to move and shake the world?? Which airline in the world has not gain benefit from their own government favourable policies?

The world still turn, Qatar Airways still in business and gobbling down airlines as an opportunist.

#2503 flee

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:25 AM

No, I am not that naive to think so, too bad other airlines do not have such generous government to give out blank paycheck as Qatar Government does, or having a government to turn to when politic environment gets tight, but does that matter because at the end of the day Baker continue to move and shake the world?? Which airline in the world has not gain benefit from their own government favourable policies?

The world still turn, Qatar Airways still in business and gobbling down airlines as an opportunist.

Well Etihad found out that not all investments will come through...

 

Aviation is both a capital and labour intensive industry - so most new airlines are started by the government. Even the privately owned American carriers need government policies to be supportive for their smooth and profitable operations. Malaysia Airlines has already swallowed up a huge amount of taxpayers' money and does not have much to show for it - so lets hope that the Mahatir government can finally "corrrect" one of his first PM term's mistakes.



#2504 KK Lee

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 10:25 AM

He might lead an airline that many adore (including myself), but that doesn't make him a saint. You think the airline emerged from blockade unscathed? Ask Al Baker if he thought the airline could pull through without turning to the government for (even more) help. Or whether he could go on a shopping spree without getting blank cheques from the government. Those purchases around the world are not to be mistaken as a demonstration of the airline's success. Unless, of course, one chooses to ignore the political part of the equation.

Let's not be so naive in thinking that QR is a rags to riches story :)

 

There is no doubt QR receive state support, so is MAB. What matter is efficient use of resources. MH at one period of time had similar opportunity, blank cheques from the gomen; had stake in airlines in Cambodia, Maldives; cargo operation in Germany, air cargo material handling, etc. It is a question of management skill and competency. Whether Al Baker ventures will end in success or failure, only time can tell.

 

Looking at the way and method QR expand its routes e.g. LGK, most if not all of QR routes are sustainable.



#2505 Craig

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 10:57 AM

Looking at the way and method QR expand its routes e.g. LGK, most if not all of QR routes are sustainable.

Do you mean QR's expansion to CWL, DAD, KBV, PIS, AGP, CBR (and previously served UTP) are sustainable? LGK hasn't even proved itself yet (and a pretty seasonal destination too).



#2506 KK Lee

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 11:06 AM

Do you mean QR's expansion to CWL, DAD, KBV, PIS, AGP, CBR (and previously served UTP) are sustainable? LGK hasn't even proved itself yet (and a pretty seasonal destination too).

 

LGK was tagged to PEN for sometime, QR should have good data to start DOH-LGK. QR has a range of aircraft, could adjust to seasonal demand.



#2507 JuliusWong

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 12:10 PM

Well Etihad found out that not all investments will come through...

 

Aviation is both a capital and labour intensive industry - so most new airlines are started by the government. Even the privately owned American carriers need government policies to be supportive for their smooth and profitable operations. Malaysia Airlines has already swallowed up a huge amount of taxpayers' money and does not have much to show for it - so lets hope that the Mahatir government can finally "corrrect" one of his first PM term's mistakes.

The difference is Qatar Airways does not go on shopping spree unlike Etihad Airways and got themselves into trouble.

 

Looks like this round they have not attracted any successful bidder, time to put it up on sale again.



#2508 KK Lee

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 01:20 PM

The difference is Qatar Airways does not go on shopping spree unlike Etihad Airways and got themselves into trouble.

 

Looks like this round they have not attracted any successful bidder, time to put it up on sale again.

 

It seems after conducting due diligence, the successful investor need to pump in a few hundred millions $ over a few years before MAB could breakeven and current fleet mix couldn't be deliver yield needed to breakeven.



#2509 Craig

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 09:53 AM

 

LGK was tagged to PEN for sometime, QR should have good data to start DOH-LGK. QR has a range of aircraft, could adjust to seasonal demand.

QR hasn't started flying to LGK yet. Not for at least another month. You mean QR has a range of aircraft so they chose one of their biggest aircraft to places like AGP?



#2510 JuliusWong

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 03:11 PM

While Qatar Consortium (possibly including QR) withdrew from taking over MH, they are now considering taking 39% stake in another beleaguered airline TAAG Angola Airlines.

https://angola24hora...panhia-angolana

#2511 KK Lee

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Posted Yesterday, 08:00 PM

Japan Airlines Could Bid for Malaysia Airlines, Edge Reports

https://www.bloomber...srnd=markets-vp




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