JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2016 Found this online: http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/263159/1990-malaysia-airlines-international-routes/ The following is a list of routes and frequencies operated by Malaysia Airlines for the Summer period of 1990. Frequency unit is on weekly basis. Note Domestic routes and service to Singapore is not included Route Freq & A/C Remark Kuala Lumpur – Auckland 1 D10 Kuala Lumpur – Bandar Seri Begawan 3 737 2 737 till 04JUL90 Kuala Lumpur – Bangkok 7 AB6 Kuala Lumpur – Delhi – Karachi 1 AB3 Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – Brussels – London 1 742 Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – Frankfurt – Amsterdam 1 D10 Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – Frankfurt – Paris 1 D10 Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – Istanbul – Amsterdam 1 D10 Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – London 1 D10, 1 74D Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – Zurich – London 1 742 Kuala Lumpur – Frankfurt – Paris 1 74E Kuala Lumpur – Fukuoka 2 D10 Kuala Lumpur – Guangzhou 1 737 Kuala Lumpur – Hat Yai 3 737 Eff 05JUN90 Kuala Lumpur – Ho Chi Minh 2 737 Kuala Lumpur – Hong Kong 2 74E, 1 74D, 1 AB3 Kuala Lumpur – Hong Kong – Taipei 1 742, 2 AB3 Kuala Lumpur – Honolulu – Los Angeles 2 74E Kuala Lumpur – Jakarta 4 737 Kuala Lumpur – Jeddah 1 D10, 1 742 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Manila 5 737 Kuala Lumpur – Langkawi – Phuket 1 737 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Seoul 1 AB3 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Taipei – Seoul 1 AB3 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Tokyo 1 AB3 Kuala Lumpur – Kuching – Kota Kinabalu – Hong Kong 2 AB3 Kuala Lumpur – Kuching – Tokyo 1 D10 Kuala Lumpur – London 3 74E Kuala Lumpur – Madras 4 AB3 Kuala Lumpur – Manila 2 737 Kuala Lumpure – Melbourne – Sydney 4 742 Kuala Lumpur – Penang – Hat Yai 7 737 Kuala Lumpur – Penang – Madras 1 AB3 Kuala Lumpur – Perth 1 74E, 2 D10 Kuala Lumpur – Phuket 2 737 Kuala Lumpure – Taipei – Seoul 1 AB3 Kuala Lumpure – Taipei – Tokyo 4 D10 Kuala Lumpur – Tokyo – Los Angeles 3 74D Kuching – Bandar Seri Begawan – Kota Kinabalu 3 737 Kuching – Pontianak 1 F50 What is the difference between, 74D and 74E? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted September 28, 2016 Kuala Lumpur - Auckland should be: Kuala Lumpur - Brisbane - Auckland on a DC10. The DC-10-30 may not have enough range to cover a 11 hours flight direct to AKL. How do I know? I was a frequent traveler of this route on MH's DC-10 back then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kee Hooi Yen 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2016 I think 74D is B747-300 & 74E is B747-400 and I believe both are combi version Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M. Sofian H. 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2016 Just to share the additional info that i snap from my collections Wings Of Gold Nov 1990 issue Domestic Network map MAS international network Continue.. LA and Honalulu Flight distance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted September 28, 2016 One thing I note is that in those days, non-stop flights are not that common. Most long haul flights involve one or two stops. That does help in the economics of operating these flights. Non-stops require the aircraft to carry additional fuel and that reduces payload. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I. Wong 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2016 Kuala Lumpur-Kuching-Manila-Taipei B734 Kuala Lumpur-Kuching-Seoul DC10 later on A333 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2016 M. Sofian H., I like your post. I want your Wings of Gold copies too!! Lolx, where can I get one nowadays? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamizi Hj Tamby 1 Report post Posted September 29, 2016 Don't forget the A300s too; before it was retired Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Lawrence 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2016 M. Sofian H., I like your post. I want your Wings of Gold copies too!! Lolx, where can I get one nowadays? Ebay or Amazon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenneth Chong WT 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2016 Would make my life so much more convenient to have KUL-KCH-Seoul flights..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Ebay or Amazon RM 180+ for 1984 edition http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/MALAYSIAN-AIRLINE-SYSTEM-INFLIGHT-MAGAZINE-WINGS-OF-GOLD-VOL-10-NO-1-1984-MAS-/191493803374?hash=item2c95eb8d6e:g:9dkAAOSwmrlUxYL3 Timetables are around RM 120 - RM 140. http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/SYSTEM-TIMETABLE-MALAYSIA-AIRLINES-29-OCTOBER-1995-/381659907297?hash=item58dcb404e1:g:nAcAAOSwT5tWQN7a Edited September 29, 2016 by Mohd Suhaimi Fariz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rozhan 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2016 MAS items used to be cheap at ebay. Try Amcorp Mall flea market, Saturdays and Sundays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M. Sofian H. 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2016 M. Sofian H., I like your post. I want your Wings of Gold copies too!! Lolx, where can I get one nowadays? Dear JW, the following is part of my collection from 1982 to 2016 (Going Places)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted September 30, 2016 The best era to be a crew, if you like to travel. The frequencies are low, so the nightstops are longer. The airline was relatively small, so you know most of the crew. National prestige takes precedence over profit and loss, and being a crew was surely a glamorous job back then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2016 The best era to be a crew, if you like to travel. The frequencies are low, so the nightstops are longer. The airline was relatively small, so you know most of the crew. National prestige takes precedence over profit and loss, and being a crew was surely a glamorous job back then. Yes indeed. MAS glory days was indeed one to be proud of, until some nutcase decided to privatise it and everything went downhill. Dear JW, the following is part of my collection from 1982 to 2016 (Going Places)... Nice collection Sofian. Jealous here! Where did you get them? I saw some listed for sell in ebay previously but now are all gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted September 30, 2016 MH60 KUL-KCH-BKI-HKG-TPE-NRT MH61 NRT-TPE-HKG-BKI-KCH-KUL Dragonair codeshared with MH on the BKI-HKG route, hence MH,KA60/61 flight number was used for the route, the 60/61 flight numbers survived till today at KA. Long abandoned at MH after introduction of the MH382/383, MH384/385 flight numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Firdaus Bolong 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2016 I did take a lot of flights on the MH60. If i'm not mistaken it was an early morning departure from Subang.Arriving BKI at around noon due to the transit at KCH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted October 1, 2016 I did take a lot of flights on the MH60. If i'm not mistaken it was an early morning departure from Subang.Arriving BKI at around noon due to the transit at KCH. Yeah I remembered it to be departing at around 6:00am or 7:00am? My father's maternal family is based in Seremban, so we had to wake up really in the morning and drove to Subang for MH60/61. Back in the days if you catch the real early morning flight and late afternoon flight, the price is 50% less. A return flight to the Peninsular from Sabah cost us M$1200 back then (back then it wasn't known as RM) and early morning and evening flights cost us M$600. Does anyone have MH60/61 time table? If I am not incorrect, it went all the way to NRT from TPE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Firdaus Bolong 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2016 Mid 90s MH 60 always operated by 734. I'm sure its around 6am departure as we'll reach the SZB airport around 3-4am. Yes last time there were night tourist fights. YN economy to n fro BKI-KUL was rm600/700 per person. Kind of ticket i will not pay today even on broad daylight flight.add on rm202 to n fro TWU-BKI flight because we were living in Tawau. Due to the YN regulations our flight out of BKI was mh 2601/2603 departing around 4am/5am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) Yeah I remembered it to be departing at around 6:00am or 7:00am? My father's maternal family is based in Seremban, so we had to wake up really in the morning and drove to Subang for MH60/61. Back in the days if you catch the real early morning flight and late afternoon flight, the price is 50% less. A return flight to the Peninsular from Sabah cost us M$1200 back then (back then it wasn't known as RM) and early morning and evening flights cost us M$600. Does anyone have MH60/61 time table? If I am not incorrect, it went all the way to NRT from TPE. During that period, mh derived most of its profit from kul to bki/kch to subsidize loss making international routes. After ak drove down domestic fare, mh couldn't make profit. Edited October 1, 2016 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted October 1, 2016 Dragonair codeshared with MH on the BKI-HKG route, hence MH,KA60/61 flight number was used for the route .....The actual term they applied back then was "Joint Service" - there must be difference in terms and applications compared to the codeshares that is so common nowadays. I guess so much so that the flight numbers were 'modified' - the BKI-HKG vv was MH61/62 whilst for the domestic KUL-KCH-BKI vv legs, MH61A/62A applied Yes, I too am perplexed it was actually 61/62 instead of 60/61, but am reading from a 1986 timetable ! The arrangement started during time when CX was still flying into BKI, KA inherited that eventually Also from said timetable, there used to be MH65/66 doing KUL-BKI-TPE-Seoul, twice weekly, and that the full extent of MH's service to Korea then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted October 1, 2016 The actual term they applied back then was "Joint Service" - there must be difference in terms and applications compared to the codeshares that is so common nowadays. I guess so much so that the flight numbers were 'modified' - the BKI-HKG vv was MH61/62 whilst for the domestic KUL-KCH-BKI vv legs, MH61A/62A applied Yes, I too am perplexed it was actually 61/62 instead of 60/61, but am reading from a 1986 timetable ! The arrangement started during time when CX was still flying into BKI, KA inherited that eventually Also from said timetable, there used to be MH65/66 doing KUL-BKI-TPE-Seoul, twice weekly, and that the full extent of MH's service to Korea then Haha BC... I am 200% sure it was MH60/61 and KA60/61 as I have frequented that route. Funny you mentioned about 1986, it was actually the first time ever I went to HKG on MH's A300B4-203 (BKI-HKG) and then (PAL A300B4-203 for HKG-MNL and MH B737-2H6 Adv. between MNL to BKI). I remembered it to be MH60 on the outbound flight. If you do a search now at Dragonair's website... KA60/61 still exist. KA61 is inbound to BKI, KA60 is outbound from BKI to HKG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) Yeah, I remember it as 60/61 as well, but evidently not so if one dig further back in time This the 1986 timetable I was referring to From a 1992 timetable, yes, it was 60/61 already by then Edited October 2, 2016 by BC Tam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted October 2, 2016 Ahh I see what you mean now、BC! So it seems odd numbers were in reverse direction (inbound) and even numbers for outbound from Malaysia? Seems they revised it after the 1980s. I did remember at one stage seeing MH62 to be KUL-BKI-SEL run (ICN did not even exist back then and GMP was still using SEL IATA code) served by a DC-10-30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2016 So it seems odd numbers were in reverse direction (inbound) and even numbers for outbound from Malaysia? Seems they revised it after the 1980s. MH assigns even for northbound and odd for southbound. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites