flee 5 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 Re-route to Melbourne? Then? They will give us onwards flight to Adelaide? Don't think so - they are asking if you would like the option to reroute to Melbourne. If you are not prepared to do that, get a refund or a credit shell... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 Don't think so - they are asking if you would like the option to reroute to Melbourne. If you are not prepared to do that, get a refund or a credit shell... Too much troubles. They should re-route to MH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kee Hooi Yen 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 Few years ago I bought tickets with JQ for SYD-KUL vv before they axed the route. They offered us the options to reroute to SIN (via DRW), HKT or DPS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancisL 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 I'm pretty sure if you want to reroute via Melb you need to find your own way to get to and back from Melb. I'm going to reroute since it'll still be heaps cheaper than MH. Question is whether I can get the seats on the flights I want! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 I'm going to reroute since it'll still be heaps cheaper than MH. Question is whether I can get the seats on the flights I want! Never say never! MH has pretty low pricing nowadays, especially during their promotions. Also use Skyscanner - you might find something that never appear obvious to you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 I got the email of the flight cancellation by D7 to ADL. Effective on 25th Jan 2015. sucks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenneth Chong WT 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 Oh no! I was planning on going to ADL... 😭 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yang Zulhilmi 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2014 AirAsia X is cancelling Kuala Lumpur – Adelaide service, where it currently operates 4 weekly flights. Last flight is scheduled on 25JAN15. D7246 KUL2355 – 0945+1ADL 330 x247 D7247 ADL1100 – 1620KUL 330 x135 Note that operational days vary during the month of January 2015. http://airlineroute.net/2014/12/05/d7-adl-jan15/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
V Wong 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2014 Looks like NGO is going to be terminated too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandeep G 1 Report post Posted December 8, 2014 Very silly move.. They should have offered a triangular route with one of the less popular MEL or SYD flights, flying KUL-MEL-ADL-KUL for example.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 MEL-ADL? They can get traffic rights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christopher C 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 Nope D7 will never get traffic rights for MEL-ADL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancisL 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 CX used to have a triangular route. You could get approval for that as long as pax cannot get off in Melb and vice versa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tafe 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 Think triangular route doesn't match with D7 business. Remember they drop KUL-CMB-MLE-KUL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 Think triangular route doesn't match with D7 business. Remember they drop KUL-CMB-MLE-KUL? Yes, it did not work even with fifth freedom rights. However, MLE is really a premium destination and LCCs will find it hard to make it work. KUL-ADL-MEL is a different matter altogether and might work if D7 can pick up domestic pax too. This will help cover the additional costs of operating the ADL-MEL sector. However, I doubt D7 would want to introduce this additional complexity. D7 should really look at acquiring smaller aircraft (e.g. A321neo LR or A330-800) for its thinner routes. Otherwise, it will have a very limited number of routes that can support operating the A330-300. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 Yes, it did not work even with fifth freedom rights. However, MLE is really a premium destination and LCCs will find it hard to make it work. KUL-ADL-MEL is a different matter altogether and might work if D7 can pick up domestic pax too. This will help cover the additional costs of operating the ADL-MEL sector. However, I doubt D7 would want to introduce this additional complexity. D7 should really look at acquiring smaller aircraft (e.g. A321neo LR or A330-800) for its thinner routes. Otherwise, it will have a very limited number of routes that can support operating the A330-300. No way D7 can do that, picking up domestic passengers? Which other foreign airlines have ever done that? Not to mention UA is also not allowed to pick up passengers on its MEL - SYD route before embarking to LAX, even SQ is also not allowed to do the SIN - SYD - LAX route. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alberttky 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 I've yet to come across a country that allows cabotage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandeep G 1 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 There is no need to pick up pax with fifth freedom.. AirAsiaX is about filling seats. There are no crewing problems with this arrangement. They just par two leaner flights together. Pax probably won't care - as long as the price is right and you get better aircraft/crew utilization! *pair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christopher C 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 How about AK consider an A320 service KUL-DRW-ADL service? They won't need as many seats to fill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 How about AK consider an A320 service KUL-DRW-ADL service? They won't need as many seats to fill. poor choice... how long is the flight from KUL to DRW? Supposedly if more than 4 to 5 hours, D7 would fly the route. But then again, DRW is already being served by MH now. I also wonder how MH did on the KUL - DRW route. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Triangular route is bean counter solution to subload destinations. Statistically, it is not easy to obtain full load and maximize yield on triangular route. Take kul-mle-cmb-kul as an example. On kul-mle sector; pax are kul-mle and kul-cmb. On mle-cmb sector; pax are kul-cmb and mle-kul. On cmb-kul sector; pax are mle-kul and cmb-kul. Full load is only possible when kul-mle=mle-kul and kul-cmb=cmb-kul. Triangular route add minimum 2 hours journey time, if given a choice, few pax will choose. Hence, few triangular routes is popular. When mh was operating kul-syd-bne-kul; kul-bne pax need to go through security check at Syd and could have their duty free confiscated, which was not popular. If qr had doh-kul-hkt-doh instead of kul-kul-hkt Vv, beside qr wouldn't able to start doh-hkt non-stop, their doh-kul market share would suffered also. Believe d7 need a332 for thinner route. Edited December 10, 2014 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 There is no need to pick up pax with fifth freedom.. AirAsiaX is about filling seats. There are no crewing problems with this arrangement. They just par two leaner flights together. Pax probably won't care - as long as the price is right and you get better aircraft/crew utilization! *pair Are you sure? I think it will be hard for the crew to do 2 sectors, be it KUL-ADL-MEL or ADL-MEL-KUL. Flight time limitation might come into the consideration. Just another argument on why the triangular route is not viable with D7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh T 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 Triangular routes are never good. I remember the old days (in the 80s) when MH used to fly to SYD/MEL as a triangular route! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 Triangular routes are never good. I remember the old days (in the 80s) when MH used to fly to SYD/MEL as a triangular route! There are reasons why kL and lh didn't have ams-kul-cgk-ams and fra-bkk-kul-fra instead of ams-kul-cgk and fra-bkk-kul Vv. It seems only less than well managed airline have triangular route. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ja Singh 2 Report post Posted December 10, 2014 KUL ADL AKL? can pick pax up on across the ditch route. EK has quite a number if flights from bne,syd,mel to akl.Kul mel 7.30 hours,adl akl 4.50 hours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites