TK 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2005 thats my writting....terrible. Either being a graduate in economics or be a Pilot... So be it. Nothing is free in this world. On the ground, there are borders between countries in this world. So as inflight. Even we dont land, we still have to pay the over flight clearance. Its not cheap. How they get the price...distance flown in their territories.. Base on the Max take Off Weight of an aircraft is where the price stands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imran K. 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2005 (edited) 6'000 USD?! Oh man...can buy a new Proton every day la in this case... Oh man...Malaysia pon kena bayar?! Isn't that kinda pointless...since eventually...the cash ends up with the government again.... Edited December 17, 2005 by Imran K. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted December 17, 2005 WTF! never knew this... 6.4k to pollute their air? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibrahim 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2005 Thank TK Learn New Thing Today.. 6.4K USD Waaaooooo.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norman 1 Report post Posted December 17, 2005 Yup... even airliners pay toll Except for a few countries... And that's one of the reasons why South China Sea still under SIN's FIR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S Chang 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 TK, Questions about the Alternate, do you have to go to FL200 or controller will clear you for lower altitudes? Is KLIA to Subang 102miles in a straight line? didnt realize that.. Thanks TK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 SZB KUL is about 38NM in a straight line I believe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 Speaking about fuel, i heard planes from Heathrow are taking off with not much fuel after the Hemel Hempstead blow which requires them to stop at other destination to fill up fuel. Has Malaysia Airlines been affected and where did there stop if it happens? Walter, Yes, MH was also affected; at least on 15dec and 16dec MH003 LHR-KUL made a fuel-stop at AMS, so both days, we had 2 MH 744's !!! (see also my highlights for AMS thread)... T K, That overflying charge-table is VERY interesting; never realized that a distance like that would be charged almost 6500 USD...and, look at the price difference of Ukraine and Turkmenistan: almost the same distance, however, UA is almost double in price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanjay Thaker 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2005 TK, I will be flying KUL/CAI on the 24th December 2005....wondering if you're operating the flight...slim chances i know.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attan 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Thanks so much TK for the fuel planning guide. Would you be able to give burn rates for de-rated climb to (say) FL300, then cruise burn rate at FL330 and descent burn rate? It will help us greatly for planning most flights. Hope someone from AK can put up something like that for the A320 too. This could be your aircraft at VIE. It was taken on my trip to Gothenburg last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Attan, At 280,000kg..roughly, from start engines to climb and level off at altitude of 32,000 feet...777 burns about 5500KG!!! Over flight charges is a norm to all Airliners. Fuel, what ever the price is...it is still the 'main' food for an airliner. Fuel price goes up...ticket price has to go too. Every airlines has to go through this. What else a pilot can do with fuel. We take minimum sector from A to B and reserve from B to C. Nowadays, strong winter winds over europe. Jet streams everywhere...that is the limiting factor for fuel base on the weight we carry. Aircraft heading west, wind blows to the east. Strong head wind!!! Like Pieter said, 747s do a tech stop at AMS for LHR flight, nothing new to me So remember guys...travel light.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Like Pieter said, 747s do a tech stop at AMS for LHR flight, nothing new to me Actually, it's on the LHR-KUL stretch Wonder, why it's only the MH003 and not the MH001 and/or MH007 Anyhow, today's refuel-stop on MH003 was (just) cancelled: flight will operate non-stop LHR-KUL (apparently due to favourable tail-winds)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsentsan 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Could I also be due to fuel rationing in LHR at the moment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Could I also be due to fuel rationing in LHR at the moment? 21253[/snapback] Exactly !!! and this should last for another couple of weeks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Actually, it's on the LHR-KUL stretch Wonder, why it's only the MH003 and not the MH001 and/or MH007 Anyhow, today's refuel-stop on MH003 was (just) cancelled: flight will operate non-stop LHR-KUL (apparently due to favourable tail-winds)... 21250[/snapback] Because LHR is experiencing lack of fuel or something like that right And I believe we have sufficient fuel over here which would make it kinda unnecessary to stop on the KUL LHR stretch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 I read the news and they are saying that the blow at Hemel Hampstead will not be intefering with the aircraft fuel distributing claiming they have enough fuel , but hey they're going to AMS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 but hey they're going to AMS. 21311[/snapback] Yeah, looks like LHR: 2 MH 747's a day (except today )... Gavin, Still wonder why it only concerns MH003 in our case and not the MH001 or MH007: heavier loads on 003 ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2005 How do they clear the snow during the winter months..... Not one truck...there are 10 of them!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imran K. 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2005 Wow...looks like ground staff can have snowball fights when they're not busy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2005 wei wei wei..gonna out of topic..no more 'walk around an airliner' lar...........TK..more inflight cockpit and walk more round aroufn the airliner pls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2005 well, my "walk around an airliner" involves many aspect of aviation world. sorry, i will post more cockpit shots and so on. Please bare with me...9 days off only this month, the rest away from KUL. Tired, jet lag and red eyes!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2005 Sure tk...we will wait..Happy Flying! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Idham 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2005 TK, when you come back later,can explain more about JET STREAM.. I really dunno what it is, last time I watch on NGC about Global flyer, they also mention it.. Is it some kind of strong wind up there ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attan 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2005 Thanks for the fuel burn tip, TK. Happy Xmas and New Year and hope to see more pics from you soon. Heard you'll be flying the reindeer until year-end :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chan CS 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2005 i always love contrails.....its the best thing to see inflight. No matter where i fly...up there in the sky i was never alone... while having the best view...i dont forget whats good for my tummy...!! he he he 17338[/snapback] actually from the view of your food, is it hard to eat? since the plates are just pitting on your leg... i beleive it is hard to eat especially when we are hungry right? is there anything can hold it just like airbus do? as i know they have... what if turbulence happen when the cruel is having their meals? haha... is there any cases that the crew smashed their food inside the cabin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
