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Cathay Pacific Quits Kuala Lumpur; Cathay Dragon (Dragonair) to Take Over from March 2017


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#1 Isaac

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 06:10 PM

Cathay Pacific axes Kuala Lumpur flights, hands them over to Dragonair from March 2017


http://www.ausbt.com...em-to-dragonair

#2 JuliusWong

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 08:00 PM

Good business decision. Low yield route better be served with lower cost base sister airline.



#3 Amirul Mazlan

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:20 PM

They have like 2 aircraft nightstopping in KUL each day

#4 jani

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:36 PM

I don't think KUL-HKG is low yield. Weird decision.

Are the two products different?

#5 Izanee

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:34 PM

Bloody hell. KUL is being whacked left right and centre. We don't even get Philippine airlines, Air India, jetstar, Asiana and Qantas... I think KUL is pretty underrated. Looks like Malaysia has taken huge beatings following MH's twin disasters in 2014 and now the 1MDB scandal. Other neighbouring countries are benefiting from this and really driving the screw in for Malaysia

#6 flee

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:41 PM

Bloody hell. KUL is being whacked left right and centre. We don't even get Philippine airlines, Air India, jetstar, Asiana and Qantas... I think KUL is pretty underrated. Looks like Malaysia has taken huge beatings following MH's twin disasters in 2014 and now the 1MDB scandal. Other neighbouring countries are benefiting from this and really driving the screw in for Malaysia

Don't you think the strong ME3 presence in KUL is also a big turnoff?



#7 Mohd Azizul Ramli

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:59 PM

It is a rather weird decision.

 

As at end of 2015, CX is the 7th largest airline in KUL with 1.4% market share of the total KUL's 49 million passengers. I do wonder why they would want to give that up.

 

Even SQ is still maintaining their presence in KUL despite MI taking over most of its previous slots.

 

I don't think the ME3 is contributing to this. CX's market from Malaysia is mainly for trans Pacific, which is away from the main ME3 areas (although some passengers did take the long westbound route from Malaysia to cross the Atlantic with ME3).



#8 kandiah k

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 11:05 PM

Doesn't CX have a different route market compared to the ME3? Quite disappointing to see CX leave KUL and Dragon take over.

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 11:07 PM

Don't you think the strong ME3 presence in KUL is also a big turnoff?

 

not to mention the strong regional presence of AirAsia for cost sensitive travellers and even some business travellers in companies on cost cutting drives...



#10 Najib Ramli

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 11:14 PM

Doesn't CX have a different route market compared to the ME3? Quite disappointing to see CX leave KUL and Dragon take over.

 

I would think Cathay did not rebrand Dragon as Cathay Dragon for nothing....and Cathay Dragon is definitely not low cost by any means...



#11 Suzanne Goh

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 11:15 PM

Inferior hard product- the cirrus J seat is nominally sold as "First" and the regional PEY J seat is sold as "business"

 

Bye bye ! That's me and about 12-15 other monthly J fares that may end up elsewhere now :) 

 

Nice move CX :) 


I don't think KUL-HKG is low yield. Weird decision.

Are the two products different?

 

yes



#12 Chris Tan

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 11:16 PM

WTF? Is KUL really that unimportant?

This will be a huge turn off. We get at least 1 or 2 flights a day with the long-haul configuration, which we will not get with Dragon.

#13 Mohd Azizul Ramli

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 11:42 PM

Bye bye ! That's me and about 12-15 other monthly J fares that may end up elsewhere now :)

 

Where else? MH B738?



#14 Najib Ramli

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 11:45 PM

Inferior hard product- the cirrus J seat is nominally sold as "First" and the regional PEY J seat is sold as "business"
 
Bye bye ! That's me and about 12-15 other monthly J fares that may end up elsewhere now :) 
 
Nice move CX :) 

 
yes

If they keep on selling an inferior hard product after the switch for the same price then nice move indeed for CX hahaha :)

But on a serious note, they have no direct competition for non stop flight now.. MH 738 is probably a less desirable option anyway

Edited by Najib Ramli, 11 August 2016 - 11:46 PM.


#15 flee

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 12:11 AM

CX Media Release:

 

 

Dragonair to operate flights to Kuala Lumpur from March 2017

 
11 Aug 2016
 
Dragonair today announced that it will operate four daily flights between Hong Kong and Kuala Lumpur commencing early next year, further strengthening the airline’s regional network.
 
The new flights will be introduced progressively between March and May 2017. Kuala Lumpur will become Dragonair’s third destination in Malaysia – the airline already operates 11 weekly flights to Penang and five weekly flights to Kota Kinabalu. Together with Kuala Lumpur, Dragonair will be operating 44 weekly flights to Malaysia.
 
Cathay Pacific will cease its four daily flights to Kuala Lumpur upon the launch of the new Dragonair service. Additionally, five of Cathay Pacific’s Airbus A330 aircraft will be transferred to the Dragonair fleet to support the airline’s operation and growth.
 
Paul Loo, Director Corporate Development & IT of the Cathay Pacific Group, said: “This is part of our overall growth strategy for the Group. The aircraft transfer will also help to optimise the Group’s training abilities. We continually review the expansion and growth plans for both Cathay Pacific and Dragonair, the latter of which will be renamed Cathay Dragon in November.
 
“The Cathay Pacific Group of airlines remains committed to grow with the Malaysian market, and will continue to provide the same high level of product and service to our customers travelling to and from Malaysia.
 
“While Dragonair is launching services to Kuala Lumpur, Cathay Pacific is also growing its network of destinations, as reflected by our latest launch to Madrid in June and the upcoming service to Gatwick in London next month. More long-haul flights are planned for 2017. The airline is expanding its fleet with the delivery of two state-of-the art Airbus A350 aircraft already and expects to take delivery of 20 more A350s by the end of 2017.”

 



#16 Suzanne Goh

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 12:27 AM

 

Where else? MH B738?

 

 

If they keep on selling an inferior hard product after the switch for the same price then nice move indeed for CX hahaha :)

But on a serious note, they have no direct competition for non stop flight now.. MH 738 is probably a less desirable option anyway

 

Pretty liberal (read: ridiculous) in my company on how they justify flights (read: lame excuses). To be frank, nobody needs a flat bed for 3 1/2 hour flight.. and SQ is pretty expensive. It certainly was/is hard to justify but with this it will be good enough an excuse now to fly down south to SIN and back up if they so choose. I just need to learn bluff like the boys. So no... at least for the few of my colleagues clever enough to BS - the winner isn't actually MH


Edited by Suzanne Goh, 12 August 2016 - 12:28 AM.


#17 Izanee

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 01:25 AM

Wow. I still cannot believe it. Cathay flies to Denpasar and Surabaya and Jakarta and elsewhere in the region. Why are they just picking on Malaysia.
Are we really that low yield compared to elsewhere? I find that hard to fathom...

#18 Ja Singh

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 03:06 AM

Wow. I still cannot believe it. Cathay flies to Denpasar and Surabaya and Jakarta and elsewhere in the region. Why are they just picking on Malaysia.
Are we really that low yield compared to elsewhere? I find that hard to fathom...

So sad to See CX leaving KUL. Blame it on all the political fiasco and the unstability it has caused in Malaysia and ringgit.

 

As per what Perlis Mufti Dr Asri Zainul “They don’t realise that the country is being destroyed by abuse and misadministration,” .


Edited by jadivindra, 12 August 2016 - 03:12 AM.


#19 jani

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 07:24 AM

Come on guys, no need to exaggerate any political issue with this. It totally is unrelated.

If it was, BA, KL, TK, QR etc wouldn't be expanding in KUL.

Business is business, and KUL/HKG has strong business connections.

In my line of work, it is not uncommon for one to fly to the other for just one meeting and come back.. Like SIN or CGK.

So again, it is an extremely weird decision. They could have gone something like 2/2 between CX and KA instead..

#20 Sandeep G

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 07:53 AM

Anyone thought of the pressures on the other side of the coin? Continued and further looming industrial dispute with its Pilots http://m.scmp.com/ne...tem-and-ban-new

And the airline has categorically stated that it will use Cathay Dragon to circumvent such limitations in the main line to continue regional growth and sustainability http://m.scmp.com/ne...ustrial-dispute

This move seems introspectively tactical more so than an indication of political and economic assessment of the Malaysian market - the latter surely playing some form of role still - just questioning the size of the pie slice.




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