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Will there be any changes for D7's current order of 15 A333s with 10 option?

AirAsiaX (XAX/D7) will soon exercised the rights to purchase the 10 remaining A333 options soon,so far BoD approval is already given only awaiting for official press release,according to company briefing given by TF last week.Company will decide soon (maybe in April or May 08) weather to order B787-9 or A350-900XWB.Personally I'd prefer the A350XWB,not just because I'm an A320/A330 driver,but once youve used to a sidestick airplane with a removal desk infront off you ,its just kinda difficult to fly again an airplane with a conventional control collum,not forgetting to relearn again from Airbus phylosophy to Boeings.

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I like to read stuff like that. We seem to have lots of MAS people here too but I haven't read them say anything about their fleet renewal :(

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I like to read stuff like that. We seem to have lots of MAS people here too but I haven't read them say anything about their fleet renewal :(

 

Not much of a surprise as different companies have different policies about what or how much their employees can or cannot leak to the average Joe public about the inside news. They could be liable for what they say or simply because they have nothing to tell at all.

 

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The other possibility, considering the numerous previous occasions when MH's fleet renewal plans have been postponed, is that the sources of such inside info are now wiser and choose not to be embarassed, again ! :)

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The other possibility, considering the numerous previous occasions when MH's fleet renewal plans have been postponed, is that the sources of such inside info are now wiser and choose not to be embarassed, again ! :)

 

Could be considering that MH was supposed to be the 777-200LR launch customer - never materialised. The A380 deal - still being undecisive about it.

 

Joining an alliance which IJ was looking for when he took up the job - not materialised yet

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Could be considering that MH was supposed to be the 777-200LR launch customer - never materialised. The A380 deal - still being undecisive about it.

 

Joining an alliance which IJ was looking for when he took up the job - not materialised yet

 

Understand MH’s A380 deal is sealed, only the delivery date is unconfirmed or MH and PMB couldn’t agree with the date. A380 is likely to be in service after IJ and co have left the management.

 

Believe none of the alliance is keen with MH, it is unlikely MH will join any alliance in the next few years.

 

:drinks:

 

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Enough with MH! The moment is getting nearer. The 2 A346s should be here within 6 months in time for flights to London planned before Christmas this year.

 

AirAsia X to fly to London by year-end

The Star, Friday March 21, 2008

 

By EUGENE MAHALINGAM

 

SEPANG: AirAsia X Sdn Bhd, the long-haul low-cost carrier and sister company of AirAsia Bhd, is targeting flights to London by year-end. Chief executive officer Azran Osman-Rani said it hoped to have flights to London in time for Christmas. The time frame was to accommodate delivery of a long-haul aircraft that it hoped to secure within six months.

 

We need to get a plane that is capable of accommodating direct flights. Right now, we do not have the plane but over the next six months, we hope to get at least one, if not two,” he said prior to the unveiling of AirAsia’s AT&T Williams Formula One A320 aircraft yesterday. “If we use our existing fleet, we would need to stop in between. That would not bode well when competing against the more aggressive Middle Eastern airlines.”

 

AirAsia X, which covers flights that are longer than four hours, began flying passengers last November. Its first destination was Australia’s Gold Coast, which had already registered over 100,000 bookings to date, according to Azran. He also said having flights to London would be a significant boost to the group.

 

“It is going to be huge. For our flights to the Gold Coast for instance, travellers from Britain were the third highest number of passengers after Malaysians and Australians. This means that (British) travellers are actually coming to Malaysia to fly to Australia. Today, people travelling to and from Britain and Australia are paying a fortune for tickets and we can offer similar trips at a fraction of the cost,” Azran added.

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“We need to get a plane that is capable of accommodating direct flights. Right now, we do not have the plane but over the next six months, we hope to get at least one, if not two,”

 

If they really need them in such a short time would they get some second-hand 744s? I believe there are more than a handful of them.

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From CAPA.

 

AUD1,000 return flights between Australia and UK - AirAsia X plans Gold Coast-Kuala Lumpur-London

Wednesday, 26 March 2008

 

AirAsia X announced plans to offer regular fares between Australia and London for A$1,000 (plus taxes/charges) from late 2008. CEO, Azran Osman-Rani told Peanuts.aero that services from Kuala Lumpur (KL) to London Stansted would commence by the end of 2008 using two leased A340s.

 

Azran stated, “we are a point-to-point service, so a passenger would have to buy two tickets: Gold Coast-KL and KL-London. While we have promotional fares and generally lower fares for bookings far in advance, on average, we are looking at a combined price of A$1,000 for both round-trip tickets”.

 

He added AirAsia X is in “advance stages of discussion” with airport officials at London Stansted and Manchester airports. “Both airports are very keen to have us and are willing to accommodate our low-cost requirements. However, we can only finalise the airport once we can confirm availability for dedicated aircraft for this route”, said Azran. AirAsia X would like to commence with a daily service. “However, that would require us to secure two aircraft. If we had only one, we might only be able to do five flights a week”, he said.

 

Robert Milton, the CEO of Air Canada’s parent, has this week acquired a minority interest in AirAsia X, joining Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Group with a 16% stake and other key foreign investors. Mr Milton's airline experience will be valuable for the airline and, says Azran, may help the airline secure aircraft to launch the UK service. “But it is no guarantee, since the widebody lease market is very tight at the moment”, said Azran. He added though that the weakening US economy and high fuel prices would mean some airlines would “let go of four-engine aircraft like the A340”.

 

Australia remains a core market for AirAsia X. Given the positive response to the Gold Coast service (four times weekly service launched in November 2007), the airline is planning to accelerate its roll-out in Australia with a second port as soon as its first of 25 new A330-300s arrives (estimated around October 2008). A third Australian city will be added when the third aircraft is available (in February or March 2009).

 

“We have had active discussions with Melbourne and remain interested to serve Victoria. However, other cities have put forth compelling proposals in conjunction with the respective state governments and tourism bodies, which we are seriously studying”, said Azran. AirAsia X hopes to finalise its second Australian port by May 2008.

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From CAPA.

 

AUD1,000 return flights between Australia and UK - AirAsia X plans Gold Coast-Kuala Lumpur-London

Wednesday, 26 March 2008

 

AirAsia X announced plans to offer regular fares between Australia and London for A$1,000 (plus taxes/charges) from late 2008. CEO, Azran Osman-Rani told Peanuts.aero that services from Kuala Lumpur (KL) to London Stansted would commence by the end of 2008 using two leased A340s.

 

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Above story already posted here:

 

http://www.malaysianwings.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8634

 

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Just an update for the thread. So 1 aircraft instead of 2, but whether it is going to be an A345 or A346 is still remain in question.

 

To London and back - for RM1,200

The Star, Sunday May 11, 2008

 

By WONG SAI WAN

 

KUALA LUMPUR: AirAsia X will start its flights to London in March next year. And it will cost only about RM1,200 for a return trip on an economy ticket. The country’s first long-haul budget carrier had announced last year that the Kuala Lumpur-London route would be its mainstay but could not take off because there was no suitable aircraft.

 

AirAsia group chief executive officer Datuk Tony Fernandes said he had signed up for the lease of an Airbus A340 aircraft a few days ago. “We will take delivery of the plane in January and it will take us several months to refurbish it. It will be configured to house 50 flatbeds (sleeper seats) and the rest would be economy seats but will be bigger and more comfortable than even that of a full service carrier,” Fernandes said in an interview from London.

 

He estimated that the average cost of a return fare to London would be about RM1,200 while the higher-class flatbed seats would cost about RM8,000 return. The economy return fare on full service carriers like Malaysia Airlines and Singapore Airlines is between RM4,000 and RM4,500 while a business-class ticket on these airlines costs more than RM20,000.

 

Fernandes said his airline was still negotiating with a couple of airports near the Greater London area but “chances are we will settle for London's Standsted Airport.'' The airport is located in the Uttlesford district of the English county of Essex, about 48km northeast of London. Stansted is a hub for a number of major European low-cost airlines. It is Britain’s third largest airport serving the London area after Heathrow and Gatwick.

 

Fernandes said AirAsia X would start with five flights a week using the first aircraft but “we will build it up to eventually two flights on a daily basis. Our on-board entertainment system will be a state-of-the-art touch screen unit. You can watch movies, listen to music and even order your food from the unit,” he added.

 

On the permanent aircraft for the long-haul routes, he said AirAsia X was still looking at the Airbus A350 or the Boeing 787 (commonly called the Dreamliner). “We have not decided on which wide-body aircraft but we want one that can give us the flexibility to serve Europe and the Americas. We want to turn Kuala Lumpur into a truly low-cost hub,” the AirAsia founder said.

 

AirAsia X operates long-haul flights that take six hours or more. It now operates flights to two destinations – Gold Coast in Australia and Hangzhou in China. The airline had announced that it would be flying to Tiruchirapalli in India in a couple of months.

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Well, he didnt elaborate which series is coming hehehe, I personally think it would be a 345... nicer!! :p

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"Airbus expects to win orders for more than 100 of its long- range A350 jets this year. The planemaker said today Malaysian carrier AirAsia X Sdn. is considering buying as many as 25 A350 aircraft."

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=con...id=a9waKBgdgsZ4

 

 

Very nice!

 

 

That will imdirectly implies 1/4 of the order.

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Just an update for the thread. Looks like the signed up A340 is of -300 series from Air Canada!

 

To London and back - for RM1,200

The Star, Sunday May 11, 2008

 

AirAsia group chief executive officer Datuk Tony Fernandes said he had signed up for the lease of an Airbus A340 aircraft a few days ago. “We will take delivery of the plane in January and it will take us several months to refurbish it. It will be configured to house 50 flatbeds (sleeper seats) and the rest would be economy seats but will be bigger and more comfortable than even that of a full service carrier,” Fernandes said in an interview from London.

Off topic here, heard from the rumor mill, for flights to India AXM/AK will dedicate the -214 series (CFM-56-5B4) engines for those routes and possibility of ETOPS certified.

 

As for XAX/D7, ETOPS certification is expected at the end of 2008. New destinations will be Tianjin, Perth, Melbourne Tullamarine, daily flights to Gold Coast and possibility to Korea and Japan. A330-343E msn 952 (seat capacity 380+/MTOW 230T) is expected in Oct 08 and the second either in late Nov or early Dec 08.

 

XAX/D7 will get an A340-300 from Air Canada in early Jan 09 for flights to UK (Stansted?).

 

Due to ongoing friction between AXM boss with MAS boss, MH is not interested to undertake any Sim or SEP training for A330 crews from XAX, so for now, all new CCQ (cross crew qual trg) will be carried out at Airbus Training in TLS and Sim recurrent at Zhuhai untill XAX gets its own sim in the near future.

 

IAA/QZ gets new DFO (Capt Sonny) while Capt Erwin will oversee the induction of A320 into IAA/QZ service.

Edited by Mohd Azizul Ramli

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If I'm not mistaken, their A330's will be with a super cramped 3-3-3.. Is he saying now that his A340 will be in a "normal" config? :D

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Maybe the initial A340, since it is leased, will be configured differently, just like the case of 9M-XAA (Semangat Sir Freddie). As we are all know, D7 has yet to decide on the purchase of its long haul airliners (A350 vs B777/B787).

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it was rumoured long long time ago that the aircraft will come from AC (i think i've stated it elsewhere in this thread also). hence the reason why the ex-ceo of AC was made a shareholder

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Yes, Ramani. I think I recalled you mentioned something about D7 acquiring Air Canada's A345 and the reason behind ex-CEO of Air Canada was made a shareholder of D7.

 

So the rumours about D7 is getting the A346 from QR, CX or direct from Airbus is now officially off. Too bad it's not an A346.

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Wishing D7 all the best in developing its long haul routes.

 

It's time the competition start sweating ;)

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AirAsia is still expending with limited aicraft. The current soaring hike price will certainly not going to accelerate air travelling growth.

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