Mohd Idham 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 (edited) FLAIR or FLARE........ confius oredi,.... I love all of it, save all.... Edited October 23, 2005 by Mohd Idham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 its flare. thanx for the correction idham. but that triple has its own flair...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norman 1 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Yup... couldn't agree more... The T7 with Azahan's kind of capture of the moment got its special flair....... Great shots you two... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 wow, love MRD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imran K. 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Pheewwwwiiiittttt..... Waaaa...great shots from both of you! The lighting mustve been MAGNIFICO on that day! JKSC...u were there early..mana EK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Pheewwwwiiiittttt..... Waaaa...great shots from both of you! The lighting mustve been MAGNIFICO on that day! JKSC...u were there early..mana EK? 11607[/snapback] Imran, maybe when EK arrived, they are left for 'toilet time'..haha..nice shots anyways! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Jonathan, Indeed MKG is very nice with the Kargo 747 passing thru the "heat" of the 330... Nice cumulonimbus clouds with the AIGH 340-300 picture Keep them comin' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Nizam 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2005 Flare and flair = flabulous. .. Great shots !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 cheers nizam..... oii! imran......Jonathan took shots of EK. that plane was 'gila' one. i wont tell you. let him post the shots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Nice to see 9M-MRN again. She took me from KUL-HKG on 19 OCT 05 as MH72. Two years back, she took me from PVG-KUL on MH389. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 S V Choong, she took my two sisters from KUL-MEL.. and she was the "official plane" for MU players (Mancester Asia Tour) Correct if I'm wrong.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan Kong 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 For some unknown reasons... EK taxied in an odd way Making a sharp u turn to the right and turn to the left again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin Ho 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 (edited) *cabin PA buzz to life* Capt: "Okay folks, we are lost. I cant find the way to our parking bay. FYI we are now parked in from of this building that as big word printing MASKargo... whatever that means. I have run out of fuel, so we cannot taxi. Becoz of that, we have lost all electrical power, so no air-cond, and naturally, comms are down. Will someone from Malaysia do me a favor; fire up ur handphone, call ur local telco's phone directory and ask for the number of the control tower. Then call the tower, ask them to call me at +xxx-xxxx-xxxx. In the mean time, cabin crew please disarm and open all doors, it's going to get 'bit stuffy here... captain out" Ben-G Edited October 24, 2005 by Benjamin Ho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 EK mangkuk hayun. definitely pilots not malaysian! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 wow, weird taxi. He must be lost! anyways, is it normal that planes have their spoilers on during taxi? or did the pilot totally forget about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibrahim 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 (edited) ler kenapa ngan EK pilot nih ???? engage spoiler and flaps during taksi maybe lost.. but this is first time i know plane can 'lost' at the airport High Technology ATC pun still can lost or dunno how to read jepp chart. P.S : that plane realy dirty... naik lumut dah. Edited October 24, 2005 by Ibrahim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kandiah k 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 (edited) Maybe the pilot kena marah(got some scolding) from the co-pilot for some mistake, so he kelam-kabut (messed up) after that and that resulted in the weird taxi......ok that was meant to be a silly joke......but does this happen a lot ? Is it because the navigation system is out ? Edited October 24, 2005 by kandiah k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 (edited) Simple explaination: Unlike other airports in the world where they will tell you the taxiways, (take Charlie 5, Charlie, turn right to Golf, Left for Foxtrot 6, continue to Alpha 11) KLIA will give codes to the pilots (32 Left Mike Whiskey for bay Alpha 11). Pilots will have to look at the chart to decipher those, then at the taxi chart for the taxiway. As if the pilots got nothing else to do. Captain has to concentrate on taxiing; the copilot will be the navigator on ground as well as doing the after-landing checklist (spoilers down, flaps up, APU start etc.) Best place to taxi: SIN at night. "Follow the green for Foxtrot 30". Edited October 24, 2005 by radzi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibrahim 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 (edited) Simple explaination from the specialist aviationist.. Thank Capt. here the jepp chart. you can't lost at the airport for sure if you know how to read a map sorry guy it little bit blur.. Thank Norman for the chart. *usually use this for flight simming. Edited October 24, 2005 by Ibrahim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norman 1 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 (edited) And here is part of the "decipher charts" as mentioned by Capt. Radzi So not-so-familiar-with-klia pilots will have to listen to the Coded Taxi Routes, decipher it by looking into this chart, take out and study another chart (shown by Pak Brahim above), look at the signboards and taxi through... But for familiar-with-klia pilots aka locals... they will request "Non-Standard".. Edited October 24, 2005 by Norman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted October 25, 2005 is KLIA is equipped to say 'follow the green?'. so far never heard as such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick R. 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2005 why need to code it the first place? btw,great shots from Azahan & Emperor..cant wait to be at the weather center again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2005 a coded taxi instruction will save "air time" on the radio. Example... ATC talk to Pilot... "...malaysian 53, taxi to bay Charlie 12 via delta, golf, sierra eight.." if it be coded, like KUL..taxi to Charlie 12 via 32L sierra november. BUT...we local at KUL also get loss!!! So preparation before descend, we call company frequency and ask for Bay number, then we will be prepared for what taxiway to be use and then plan the coded taxi instruction and which exit to take from the runway. one pilot should do....write it down, because when we want to read back all the taxi instruction...at least we have something to expect. Singapore is the "best" to taxi at night....ATC says..."...follow the green for Foxtrot 30....".... What the ground controller does is...light up the green taxi light for us to follow....and that's it!!!!!!!!!!!!...so we pilot just follow la.... They save the light bulbs...while KLIA dont pay TNB...no wonder they always say they loss money!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted October 25, 2005 wow, tak sangka taxiing also so complicated one...iskisk, make my desire to be pilot 1000X pula seeing the fun you all have while taxxiing. Pak Brahim, boleh send chart itu to me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fitri Shukri 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2005 Is this all the reason why sometimes airliners get lost in KLIA. I remember a Lufhansa A340600 got confused once. And also a Saudia B747 ditched into a 'longkang' once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
