Accident: Asiana B772 at San Francisco on Jul 6th 2013

[JingKai Seah 0]

Got this piece of news from flightaware & avherald.. happens moments ago.. below are the details:

 

An Asiana Boeing 777-200, registration HL7742 performing flight OZ-214 from Seoul (South Korea) to San Francisco,CA (USA) with 291 passengers and 12 crew, touched down short of runway 28L while landing on San Francisco's runway 28L, the tail plane, gear and engines separated, the aircraft turned around by around 180 degrees and came to a rest left of the runway facing west. The aircraft burst into flames and burned out.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ybFMRB6mMAM

 

Read full story here:

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=464ef64f&opt=1

 

and here:

http://flightaware.com/news/article/Asiana-777-AAR214-crashes-upon-landing-at-SFO/182

Edited July 6, 2013 by JingKai Seah

[iwan 3]

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/boeing-777-plane-crash-lands-in-san-francisco-1.1356429

 

a lengthy video on the debris on the runway. they are saying its a tailstrike?

[JuliusWong 0]

San Francisco Fire Rescue Services is reporting two fatalities, dozens injured and 60+ unaccounted for. Let's hope those 60+ are all safe and sound.

 

 

Aircraft is B777-28E/ER HL7742,a newly refurbished two class B772ER carrying 290 pax and crew. It is shown as B77L under its GDS to differentiate between those refurbished and non-refurbished.

 

What a sad day for aviation! And for B777 family. First fatality while in operation.

 

Multiples flight had been cancelled as a result of the crash landing.

AA - Cancelled all SFO departures rest of the day.

DL - Several cancels and some major reschedules till later in evening.

WN - Cancelled all SFO departures rest of the day

UA - 69 cancels to far. Will attempt to operate 3/4 of redeye bank

US - All departures cancelled except 2 red-eyes

VX - Cancelled SFO departures through 6pm

Source: Airliners.net

[Y. J. Foo 0]

SF Chronicle reports two casualties, 82 taken to hospital, including 40 serious injuries, and 60 more remain unaccounted for: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/2-killed-40-badly-hurt-in-SFO-plane-crash-4650259.php

 

If the casualties are confirmed, this would make this crash the first 777 crash with fatalities involving occupants.

[Mulyadir Fitri 0]

Eerily similar to the 777 incident at LHR. But since then all FOHE units aboard all 777s have been fixed right?

[JuliusWong 0]

We might speculate this case is similar with BA 038, however BA uses RR Trent, OZ uses PW. Hmmm, the flight path does look similar, but we might need to wait for a while for the investigation report to be published.

SF Chronicle reports two casualties, 82 taken to hospital, including 40 serious injuries, and 60 more remain unaccounted for: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/2-killed-40-badly-hurt-in-SFO-plane-crash-4650259.php

 

If the casualties are confirmed, this would make this crash the first 777 crash with fatalities involving occupants.

Yes, two is confirmed dead. Sad....

[Y. J. Foo 0]

Breakdown of POB the flight from Asiana's FB statement on the disaster:

 

 

There were a total of 291 passengers (19 business class, 272 travel class) and 16 cabin crew aboard. The majority of the passengers were comprised of 77 Korean citizens, 141 Chinese citizens, 61 US citizens, 1 Japanese citizen, etc. for a total of 291 people.

 

https://www.facebook.com/FlyAsiana

 

BTW is that me or it seems rather cynical that currently 203 people 'liked' that official statement...??

[David.W 0]

From skyscraper city forum

 

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=926298&page=28

Asians Airlines Flight 214 update: of the 307 passengers and crew on board, only 1 has been left unaccounted for, while 123 of them have escaped the mishap without any injuries and are being processed at SFO Airport. There are still hundreds of injuries, with 40 of them still listed in "critical" condition, and 2 fatalities, according to the latest press briefing held a few minutes ago. This is very encouraging news.

And here is photos from survivors and witnesses.

 

https://path.com/p/1lwrZb

Edited July 7, 2013 by Tan Hao Ming

[alberttky 0]

Eerily similar to the 777 incident at LHR. But since then all FOHE units aboard all 777s have been fixed right?

Not sure if their 777s use RR?

[Y. J. Foo 0]

Not sure if their 777s use RR?

 

Asiana's 777s use PW engines.

[BC Tam 2]

Of morbid interest, HL7742 is available in 1:400 by JC Wings (albeit in old grey colours)

[JuliusWong 0]

Update from SFO press conference as of 9am Malaysia Time:

 

181 transported to hospitals out of 307 total. 49 serious, 132 were transported later after on-site treatment.

 

123 people uninjured and in terminals.

 

2 dead.

 

1 person still unconfirmed.

 

The crash trail starts from the breakwater embankment, all the way onto the runway.....Both engines got separated.

 

 

The tail got separated first upon impact with runway/ embankment

Edited July 7, 2013 by JuliusWong

[flee 5]

Not sure if their 777s use RR?

It was equipped with PW4090 engines.

 

RIP to the dead.

 

Looks like the flight crew of the UA B744 got a grandstand view of the crash. They will be important witnesses. Passengers reported that the plane's engines spooled up before the crash. So it would rule out engine problems similar to those on BA38. Lets wait for the investigation reports!

 

Thankfully, the casualties were low.

Edited July 7, 2013 by flee

[Naim 6]

RT @_naim: ATC audio. RT @W7VOA: #SFOcrash tower/pilot audio: http://is.gd/eKFpjV

 

RT @_naim: #fb RT @nytgraphics: Map of Where Asiana Flight 214 Came to Rest http://j.mp/13sKwK0

 

[JuliusWong 0]

Thanks Naim for the pix. Much more clearer!

 

Speculation going around forums is that the pilot has landed the aircraft too high, the nose pitched up leading to tail scrapping the runway. Seems like the pilot might be trying to go-around, but it might be too late and the engines stalled.

 

Let's hope the report will be out soon duly.

Edited July 7, 2013 by JuliusWong

[Mike P 0]

God bless them all... RIP for the 2 who has died.

Wow, I can't access SFO website and it said temporarily inaccessible due to high volume...

[JuliusWong 0]

Flight Global is reporting the ILS has been out of operation for three months to accommodate to construction of runway extension just in case pilot lands short of runway. The glide slope might have helped the pilot of OZ214 to land his aircraft without excessive sink rate.

[Y. J. Foo 0]

Chinese news sources now report that at least one of the confirmed dead is Chinese; CCTV4 reports that both of them are Chinese.

 

http://news.xinhuanet.com/world/2013-07/07/c_116435070.htm (Chinese)

[KK Lee 5]

Chinese news sources now report that at least one of the confirmed dead is Chinese; CCTV4 reports that both of them are Chinese.

 

http://news.xinhuanet.com/world/2013-07/07/c_116435070.htm (Chinese)

 

There are more Chinese in this flight than Korean, OZ marketing in China must be aggressive.

[Radzi 2]

This could either be like the BA in LHR, or the Lion in BLI.

 

RIP to those who didn't make it out safely.

[S V Choong 4]

From skyscraper city forum

 

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=926298&page=28

And here is photos from survivors and witnesses.

 

https://path.com/p/1lwrZb

 

Christ... still managed to take the belongings with her....

[KK Lee 5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQSSJqLi-kE

 

 

ATC recording

Edited July 7, 2013 by KK Lee

[Arthur Van Straten 0]

Good afternoon.

 

On a clear cavok day, (as they say in USA, "cavul", "ceiling and visibility unlimited", with winds calm, and, given the fact that both RWY 28 L+R where on visual approach for some time already, one could or better should, expect a 777 crew to have no problems landing the aircraft as it should be done. Both runways had no ILS so, it had to be done visual.

They did not hack it. As for why not, we will know soon enough, as the flightcrew is still there to tell their story and both recorders will be examined soon as well. As a side note by me, if an airline flight crew can not land properly on a visual approach on a runway without landing aids on a cavok day, this industry is in trouble.

 

@Radzi. BA 777 had different engines, and, flew a different great circle route, so, unlikely imho.

As for LION Bali, that crew did not go around when they lost contact with RWY on a NP approach.

What we have in SFO seems to be more simple. But lets wait and see, we will know soon enough.

 

Cheers

Art

[Mulyadir Fitri 0]

From Sky News ticker. Asiana CEO says that the crash was not caused by engine problems

[David.W 0]

Oh the irony whe weather is perfect not a single cloud in the sky. Normally this kind of crash would be the result of bad weather, crosswinds but not this time. Nobody especially the passengers would have any idea that the plane would crash