Isaac 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) It seems that Dragonair is adding one more Saturday evening flight between HKG and BKI starting at the end of October, making two KA-operated evening flights on Saturday. The current Saturday evening flight is quite a new one. It was introduced just back in July this year and the reservation system is showing the new Saturday evening flights (KA68 & KA69) to depart and arrive exactly the same time as the existing Saturday evening flights (KA63 & KA64). Edited August 30, 2012 by Isaac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted August 30, 2012 Cebu Pacific currently operates four international services from Cebu--Hong Kong, Incheon and Pusan in Sout Korea and Singapore. CEB also operates 20 direct domestic flights from it Visayan hub to Manila, Bacolod, Busuanga, Cagayan de Oro, Caticlan, Clark, Davao, Dipolog, Dumaguete, General Santos, Iloilo, Legazpi, Ozamiz, Pagadian, Puerto Princesa, Siargao, Surigao, Tacloban and Zamboanga. SOURCE: http://businessmirro...s-from-cebu-hub So where does BKI fit in ?! ..... the reservation system is showing the new Saturday evening flights (KA68 & KA69) to depart and arrive exactly the same time as the existing Saturday evening flights (KA63 & KA64). I would have thought the easier option to increase available capacity would be to deploy the 333 instead ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) I would have thought the easier option to increase available capacity would be to deploy the 333 instead ? I suppose they don't have any idle 333 available for Saturday evening... Of course it is just my assumption lah If this new flight does take off, well, the new Saturday evening flight is already bookable as we speak, it means KA will be using 4 different flight codes for their flights from HKG to BKI every week. KA60 - .2.4..7 (afternoon flight back to HKG, perfect for passengers going to China/Korea/some flights to US & Canada) KA62 - 1...5.. (evening flight, perfect for passengers going to Europe, Japan, Korea/some flights to US & Canada/Australia & NZ) KA64 - .....6. (evening flight, perfect for passengers going to Europe, Japan, Korea/some flights to US & Canada/Australia & NZ) **KA68 - .....6. (evening flight, perfect for passengers going to Europe, Japan, Korea/some flights to US & Canada/Australia & NZ) Edited August 31, 2012 by Isaac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reezal 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Yet another airline (after Ethiopian & Uzbekistan Airways) to ply BKK-KUL. Iran Air W12 South East Asia Operation Changes Update at 1020GMT 31AUG12 As per 31AUG12 GDS timetable display, Iran Air in Winter 2012/13 season is changing operations to South East Asia, from 28OCT12. The airline has temporary suspended twice weekly service to Bangkok, which is currently due to resume from 28OCT12. Upon service resumption, it will extend to Bangkok service to Kuala Lumpur. Operations to the Malaysian capital will see overall 5 weekly service (3 weekly nonstop, 2 weekly 1-stop). Schedule: Tehran – Bangkok – Kuala Lumpur IR840 IKA0030 – 1040BKK1245 – 1605KUL 74L 26 IR841 KUL1750 – 1920BKK2050 – 0105+1IKA 74L 26 IR does not have local traffic rights on BKK KUL Tehran – Kuala Lumpur IR840 IKA1930 – 0750+1BKK 74L 347 IR841 KUL1120 – 1520IKA 74L 145 SOURCE: http://airlineroute..../ir-bkkkul-w12/ Edited August 31, 2012 by reezal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H C Chai 4 Report post Posted August 31, 2012 It seems that Dragonair is adding one more Saturday evening flight between HKG and BKI starting at the end of October, making two KA-operated evening flights on Saturday. The current Saturday evening flight is quite a new one. It was introduced just back in July this year and the reservation system is showing the new Saturday evening flights (KA68 & KA69) to depart and arrive exactly the same time as the existing Saturday evening flights (KA63 & KA64). Sounds very odd to me, could this be just a change of flight number and their system just hasn't been updated to reflect this?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzanne Goh 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) IR no traffic rights (BKK-KUL)? would have loved to try them. Probably a matter of time later I think. Edited August 31, 2012 by Suzanne Goh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted August 31, 2012 Yes, usually that's the case. I recalled it happened to Egypt Air at the beginning of their service. After sometimes, the airline will be allowed to utilise the 5th freedom rights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2012 Sounds very odd to me, could this be just a change of flight number and their system just hasn't been updated to reflect this?! Not sure. It's been a few days and currently the new flights, KA68/KA69 are still bookable. Anyway, we'll find out very soon as next month is October already On a different note, Asiana Airlines is adding two additional weekly flights between ICN/BKI starting September 9, 2012 until October 28, 2012, bringing the total weekly flight from four to six weekly. Awesome! They should start to actively offering some deeply discounted fares to Japan, China and Americas again. They have not had a promotion for almost two years already. United Airlines is code-sharing on this ICN/BKI route, by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) You just have to wonder whether those people at MH who made decision to scrap connectivity at BKI, would actually spare a thought or two if it was the wrong decision made ? So much traffic that had been painstakingly built up over years of expensive efforts, now the slack being taken up by foreign carriers (BI, KA, KE, OZ ..... etc, and soon CZ) ..... and AK of course Sooner they (meaning the decision makers at MH) realize there are alternatives nowadays to get from point A to point B other than being forced to pay a king's ransom travelling via their fabled KUL hub, well, the sooner they may realize there can be (more) money to be made from BKI. Nope, the industry can and will find alternatives. And indications are there that the downstream industries (eg travel agents, tour operators, hospitality providers etc), in Sabah at least, have been so pi.....ed off by that sudden decision to drop routes from BKI by MH, it will take some super effort to try woo back their business in future, if MH ever decide to go back down that way that is. And serve them right too Edited September 1, 2012 by BC Tam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2012 You just have to wonder whether those people at MH who made decision to scrap connectivity at BKI, would actually spare a thought or two if it was the wrong decision made ? So much traffic that had been painstakingly built up over years of expensive efforts, now the slack being taken up by foreign carriers (BI, KA, KE, OZ ..... etc, and soon CZ) ..... and AK of course Sooner they (meaning the decision makers at MH) realize there are alternatives nowadays to get from point A to point B other than being forced to pay a king's ransom travelling via their fabled KUL hub, well, the sooner they may realize there can be (more) money to be made from BKI. Nope, the industry can and will find alternatives. And indications are there that the downstream industries (eg travel agents, tour operators, hospitality providers etc), in Sabah at least, have been so pi.....ed off by that sudden decision to drop routes from BKI by MH, it will take some super effort to try woo back their business in future, if MH ever decide to go back down that way that is. And serve them right too Spot on mate! One can't count on MAS. If they really have to shut down a route based on load and yield, I'm afraid they might have to shut down the airline completely. Anyway, in a way, we're so blessed that foreign carriers such as KA, OZ, MI etc. have not given up on BKI. If what MAS said is to be believe, about there simply is no demand for flights to North Asia from BKI, then airlines such as OZ, ZE and KE must be some saint. OZ especially, since they will be flying to BKI 6x times a week starting next week ultilizing an A321-200 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted September 4, 2012 Anyway, in a way, we're so blessed that foreign carriers such as KA, OZ, MI etc. have not given up on BKI. If what MAS said is to be believe, about there simply is no demand for flights to North Asia from BKI, then airlines such as OZ, ZE and KE must be some saint I would not place much credibility on what is said by an airline (well, management of anyway) that has published publicly so many restructuring/realignment/turnarounds/rehabilitation/bail-outs over her short history and yet still be bleeding red ink at will like some die-hard blood donor Furthermore, those foreign entities quoted will drop BKI in a heartbeat if there isn't money to be made. Case in point, KE's recent intention, before MH magninamous withdrawal from BKI-ICN To borrow a quote from Captain Nik, those MH people seem "clueless" on where and how to make money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanairways 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2012 the airline i would like to see operate into KL is SWISS . we need a direct flight to Zurich ( wouldnt mind Geneva too ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2012 the airline i would like to see operate into KL is SWISS . we need a direct flight to Zurich ( wouldnt mind Geneva too ) All LX aircraft have a huge First/Business Class section and the yield is probably not there. If they want to resume flight to a city in SE, SIN would be the one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2012 Korean Air Increases Kuala Lumpur Service in Dec 2012 by JL Update at 1000GMT 05SEP12 Korean Air from 01DEC12 to 26DEC12 is increasing Seoul Incheon – Kuala Lumpur service, where it’ll offer twice daily service. New flight operates with Boeing 777-300ER aircraft. Schedule: KE671 ICN1620 – 2150KUL 744 D KE8671 ICN1830 – 0020+1KUL 77W D KE8672 KUL0140 – 0900ICN 77W D 02DEC12 – 27DEC12 KE672 KUL2320 – 0630+1ICN 744 D http://airlineroute.net/2012/09/05/ke-kul-dec12/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac 0 Report post Posted September 5, 2012 Korean Air Increases Kuala Lumpur Service in Dec 2012 by JL Update at 1000GMT 05SEP12 Korean Air from 01DEC12 to 26DEC12 is increasing Seoul Incheon – Kuala Lumpur service, where it’ll offer twice daily service. New flight operates with Boeing 777-300ER aircraft. Schedule: KE671 ICN1620 – 2150KUL 744 D KE8671 ICN1830 – 0020+1KUL 77W D KE8672 KUL0140 – 0900ICN 77W D 02DEC12 – 27DEC12 KE672 KUL2320 – 0630+1ICN 744 D http://airlineroute....5/ke-kul-dec12/ I suppose Hallyu plays a major role in the huge surge of demand for travels between these two countries ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leong Chuo Sheng 0 Report post Posted September 6, 2012 Korean Air Increases Kuala Lumpur Service in Dec 2012 by JL Update at 1000GMT 05SEP12 Korean Air from 01DEC12 to 26DEC12 is increasing Seoul Incheon – Kuala Lumpur service, where it’ll offer twice daily service. New flight operates with Boeing 777-300ER aircraft. Schedule: KE671 ICN1620 – 2150KUL 744 D KE8671 ICN1830 – 0020+1KUL 77W D KE8672 KUL0140 – 0900ICN 77W D 02DEC12 – 27DEC12 KE672 KUL2320 – 0630+1ICN 744 D http://airlineroute....5/ke-kul-dec12/ Double daily due to the high season and group bookings Although aircraft type has not been totally confirmed yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted September 7, 2012 I just had the faintest of hints that some of Etihad's flights KUL-AUH vv will be operated by Virgin Australia and crew Anyone has any news on this ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted September 7, 2012 I just had the faintest of hints that some of Etihad's flights KUL-AUH vv will be operated by Virgin Australia and crew Anyone has any news on this ? Been checking EY promotional fare to LHR? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hon Kit 3 Report post Posted September 7, 2012 I just had the faintest of hints that some of Etihad's flights KUL-AUH vv will be operated by Virgin Australia and crew Anyone has any news on this ? EY418/411 operated by VA 77W as well as crew every sunday. Photos http://www.malaysianwings.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=17872&st=0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted September 8, 2012 Been checking EY promotional fare to LHR? Yes, opportunistic foraging EY418/411 operated by VA 77W as well as crew every sunday. Thank you for info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted September 8, 2012 Yes, opportunistic foraging Thank you for info A local travel agency in KK - Popular Express also advertised EY fare in the local daily yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) Yes, opportunistic foraging KLM Matta fair promotion to Europe is attractive too but with limited date on departure/return. http://www.klm.com/t...ffers/index.htm If you don't mind layover (believe hotel is provided) at CMB, for MH regular cattle class fare, you could travel to LHR in J class with UL. http://www.srilankan.com/en_uk/my Edited September 8, 2012 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2012 Sounds very odd to me, could this be just a change of flight number and their system just hasn't been updated to reflect this?! You were right. The Saturday evening flight from HKG to BKI will be renumbered from KA65 to KA69 effective from early November. Flight time has also changed. The new departure time from HKG is 1555 instead of 1640. The return flight will also be renumbered from KA64 to KA68 and the new departure time from BKI is 2050 instead of the current 2045. This means a turnaround time of 1 hour 50 minutes at BKI. Anyway, besides the OZ flight frequency increase from 4x weekly to 6x weekly starting next week until the end of October which is already confirmed, MI apparently will also introduce 3 more weekly flights between SIN/BKI, bringing the total weekly flights from 7x to 10x weekly starting at the end of October. With 3x weekly evening flights from BKI instead of the current 1x weekly which departs every Tuesdays, this will reduce the transit time at SIN for connecting flights to Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted September 8, 2012 Thanks for the leads Waiping & Lou Lee Our search criteria this time somewhat complicated by need to have a couple of one-way tickets included Find that these MATTA deals are more for return deals - the one-way's are normally much more than the 'logical' 50% of return fare The UL via CMB option sounds like an adventure by itself, but cannot imagine doing it for this upcoming trip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted September 8, 2012 How about EK for you, Tam sang? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites