Cheng Kit 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2008 Heard that Amadeus schedule is displaying the KLM 777 flight replacing 747 on the Amsterdam - Kuala Lumpur - Jakarta from 30MAR09. System is showing 4 weekly 777-300ER and 3 weekly -200ER service. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted August 22, 2008 Sabre is showing 777 one way (AMS-KUL) and 77W the other way (KUL-AMS)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raj 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2008 Wohoo, now this is something good for us spotters! Thank you KLM for making my day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mohd sukri abd hamid 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2008 i know that news for long time already..friend of mind work for KLM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarcosMD11 Report post Posted August 22, 2008 Here some more KLM Route changes for summer 2009: KLM is displaying 4 additional weekly flights on the Amsterdam - Hong Kong, bringing number of weekly flights from 7 to 11. KL887 AMS1520 - 0830+1HKG 74E 1357 KL889 AMS2110 - 1420+1HKG 74E Daily KL888 HKG1015 - 1625 AMS 74E 1246 KL890 HKG2310 - 0520+1AMS 74E Daily KLM's planned 777-300ER operation in 2009 Summer schedule Kuala Lumpur/Jakarta 4 weekly (Day 2357 AMS departure) Manila Daily Kilimanjaro/Dar es Salaam 2 weekly (Day 57 AMS departure) from 01JUL09 Singapore 3 weekly (Day 257 AMS departure) from 28JUN09 Cairo 4 weekly (Day 1467 AMS departure) till 24JUN09 3 weekly (Day 146 AMS departure) eff 25JUN09 Previously noted includes Sao Paulo, Dubai, New York JFK currently showing not receiving 77W with this schedule update. Also the flight times of KLM809/810 will be same affct 30 MAR09 KLM now looking to change the route KLM877/878 to make Bangkok Nonstop and Taipei Non Stop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted August 22, 2008 Here some more KLM Route changes for summer 2009: KLM's planned 777-300ER operation in 2009 Summer schedule Kuala Lumpur/Jakarta 4 weekly (Day 2357 AMS departure) Well spotted !!! Indeed, KLM is planning to change from 744 to 777 effective Summer 2009 schedules Will give you the respective types per arriving/departure day at KUL... 77W days 1346 772 days 257 Azahan: finally, your prayers will be answered !!! Since we're talking about schedule changes anyhow, these cities will see the E190 of KLC as per December 2008: per 01/12 - MUC/EDI per 29/12 - MAN/ABZ per 01/03 - STR/BRU 1st F100 to leave the fleet (in December): PH-KLG; for the European spotters amongst us: catch her while you can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornelis Boersma 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2008 So the KUL 744 will go to..? HKG couple of times then.. more changes in 744 network? Hopefully back to SXM! Not that M11 is bad but 744 on SXM... not that Corsair is bad but just the KLM 744... Hehe... To bad for KUL the 744 is leaving.. Still love the Queen more then T7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jani 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2008 What does it mean in terms of loads? Does it mean that KLM is reducing capacity? Sorry for the newbie question Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan B. 5 Report post Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) What does it mean in terms of loads? Does it mean that KLM is reducing capacity? Sorry for the newbie question Increasing load actually. 747 combi that is used now has a passenger capacity of only 280 while the 777-200 - 327 pax and the 777-300 - 425 pax. Good news is that it is newer than the old 747 but this means be prepared to be squeezed into narrow EY seats as KLM has followed EK in cramming 10 seats abreast instead of the normal 9 seat abreast on a B777. The higher pax load and lower cost of the twin engine 777 will help KLM maintain ( I hope) it's very low fares on the KUL/CGK sector which is still best value for money! Edited August 23, 2008 by Alan B. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornelis Boersma 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2008 Don't want to say increasing capacity as I've flown more full pax 744s then combi's on AMS-KUL-AMS route. 70% full pax and 30% combi. Then KLM maybe is sending extra freighter to KUL as well starting in 2009? I know they finally get their 4th freighter which is in use at AF at the moment. And I think that one is being replaced by 1st B77F? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted August 23, 2008 Azahan: finally, your prayers will be answered !!! YEAHHH!!! Thanx Pieter if u have anything to do with it!! I owe you her nose shot!! :clapping: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibrahim 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2008 WaaaHHHhHH~!!! SYioKnya KLM T7 :good AirFrance T7 bila mau datang~? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashmil Abd Ghani 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2008 Yes..Good day for KLIA spotters..we can see blue wave coming in town next year..I cant wait for that moment.. I dont think so AF will start operate here as schedule flight..if AF can make step here, mean we near to bring back BA operate also..hehehe.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheng Kit 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2008 Now can watch on PTV rather than overhead screens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth K 3 Report post Posted August 24, 2008 I tot BA is confirmed coming back to KUL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted August 24, 2008 Time to collect the KLM 744 before they stop coming to KUL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted August 24, 2008 I tot BA is confirmed coming back to KUL? They're claimed by a Malaysian news report to have expressed interest in doing so, but that's far from confirmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jani 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2008 If I remember, there was a glitch on the BA website a few months ago where KUL was on their booking list. So whatever it is, it doesn't look like just a dead rumor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Y C LEONG 1 Report post Posted August 24, 2008 another excise to go home n use my concession travel.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
V Wong 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2008 Booked on KL 809/810 to travel in September, whY class. When making seat reservation last week, was informed by KLM office in KL that equipment used will be the 747 full passenger type, not the usual 747-Combi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 So the KUL 744 will go to..? HKG couple of times then.. HKG will go from 7x to 11x a week, effective this Winter already What does it mean in terms of loads? Does it mean that KLM is reducing capacity? Sorry for the newbie question KLM will be reducing FREIGHT capacity, however, passenger capacity will go down from 2700 to 2681 seats a week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashmil Abd Ghani 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2008 KLM will be reducing FREIGHT capacity, however, passenger capacity will go down from 2700 to 2681 seats a week Uncle Pieter..Why KLM reducing their passenger capacity??Its only during winter season?? Thanks.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted August 29, 2008 Uncle Pieter..Why KLM reducing their passenger capacity??Its only during winter season?? Thanks.. Ashmil, No changes at KUL for this Winter Season: still 744 operations... 19 seats less for the Summer 2009 Season is not really a reduction, but definitely a 'more economical' operation for KLM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan B. 5 Report post Posted September 15, 2008 From NST KLM Royal Dutch Airlines will reduce the number of business class seats to 35 and increase economy seats to 292 on the 777-200 and 390 on the 777W KLM Royal Dutch Airlines said it will switch to use the larger Boeing 777 from the 747-400 on its Amsterdam-Kuala Lumpur-Jakarta route beginning April 2009. "Capacity will be increased on the service between Amsterdam and Kuala Lumpur by means of larger equipment. The flights will be carried out in a mix of 777-200 and 777W," Air France-KLM country manager for Malaysia, Estee Ng, told Business Times in Jakarta last week. The move will see the number of business class seats reduced to 35 from 42 and economy seats increased to 292 on the 777-200 and 390 on the 777W, from 278. "This is good for our overall product because operational-wise, the 777's performance is much better. The only setback is that the 777 takes less cargo than the 747-400. For that, we may have to operate more freighter flights between Amsterdam and Kuala Lumpur as Malaysia is an important market for KLM Cargo," said Ng. She added that KLM has no immediate plans to increase its daily frequencies between Amsterdam and Kuala Lumpur as it also code-shares on Malaysia Airlines' daily flights between the two cities. "Don't forget we also offer daily non-stop flights to Europe out of Singapore under both the KLM and Air France brands. In fact, we are replacing the 777 with the new Airbus 380 on our daily (Air France) flights between Singapore and Paris in November next year. The A380's introduction will increase our current seat capacity by three times. "This is in addition of our daily (KLM) flights between Singapore and Amsterdam ," she said. In May 2004, KLM merged with Air France, resulting in the creation of the world's largest airline group by revenue. Air France-KLM saw its August 2008 passenger load factor for Asia drop by four percentage points to 85.8 per cent than that in August 2007 on 7.1 per cent higher capacity. "Load factor for the first eight months of 2008 declined 2.3 per cent to 85.1 per cent," said Ng, adding that the load factor reductions are likely to persist for the remaining months as more corporates look to reduce their travel spend due to the US subprime mortgage fallout. Meanwhile, Ng said KLM has completed the scheduled upgrading of its business class seats in all its 747-400s, which includes 176 degrees lie-flat seats, superior in-flight service and one of the industry's most advanced personal entertainment systems. These new seats are available on its flights from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur and onwards to Jakarta . "We started the upgrading exercise two years ago. Today, wherever our passengers fly, they can be assured of the same product," she said. She added that the airline is now embarking on an upgrade programme for its economy class seats of its 747-400 fleet, which will see the aircraft being retrofitted with personal entertainment systems. "This exercise will take another two to three years to complete. However, the Malaysian market does not have to wait so long (to enjoy the new product) because we are replacing the aircraft (with the new 777) next year," she said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornelis Boersma 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2008 Heard that Amadeus schedule is displaying the KLM 777 flight replacing 747 on the Amsterdam - Kuala Lumpur - Jakarta from 30MAR09. System is showing 4 weekly 777-300ER and 3 weekly -200ER service. You guys can wait a little longer for KLM 777s according to dutch airnews. 3th KLM 77W is not expected before summer 2009 instead of February!! This will probably mean the 747s remain flying into KUL a little longer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
