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MAB to Lease 6 Ex-Air Berlin Airbus A330-200 Aircraft from February 2018


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#21 flee

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 06:26 PM

With the current fleet of A330, the best option is definitely more A330. He's most likely including the 77W into the mix for negotiation advantages?

Yes, he is including what is currently available in the market and B77Ws are coming off lease in big quantities as the original leases expire. Being a good businessman, he should look at all options and find the best one for MAB.


Get some interim a333s nothing more. Long term fleet they should plan for proper planes maybe the b787-9 or b777x if they plan to tap back to europe.

Yes, more A333s to solve the current aircraft shortage problems.

 

Longer term, the lowest cost is still the A330-900 as the transition cost is very low. They have the 6 A350-900 and these aircraft, as well as the A350-1000 may well be most suited for MAB's long term needs. But the big problem for them would be the cost. Just like B777X and B787s, buying the A350 will incur much larger CAPEX than buying the A330-900. So we will have to wait to see what kind of decision will finally be taken.



#22 JuliusWong

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 10:57 PM

Turkish Airlines is bringing back their recently stored 12 A332 into service as we speak. Few have left Antalya, where they were stored, to Istanbul Intl Airport. Singapore Airlines A333 are being picked up by TAP Air Portugal, but they still have 24/27 or so to be released upon more A350XWB delivery. Few released earlier was also stored after TransAsia Airways collapsed. PB should negotiate a good deal with lessors for SQ A333, MAB can built a substantial fleet since more than 30 are available and SQ keep their cabin well.

#23 jahur

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 11:00 PM

Turkish Airlines is bringing back their recently stored 12 A332 into service as we speak. Few have left Antalya, where they were stored, to Istanbul Intl Airport. Singapore Airlines A333 are being picked up by TAP Air Portugal, but they still have 24/27 or so to be released upon more A350XWB delivery. Few released earlier was also stored after TransAsia Airways collapsed. PB should negotiate a good deal with lessors for SQ A333, MAB can built a substantial fleet since more than 30 are available and SQ keep their cabin well.

Bellew mentioned countless time at townhall that the a330 will be strictly PW.

#24 JuliusWong

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 11:06 PM

Never mentioned 77W though, just 777. Would be very weird if 772's though, no? Don't they still have some in storage?

Most have gone to VIM Airlines in Russia or turned into Coke cans. Last four are still around for Bayu Air, no news from them. No news is good news??

The problem is the later gen A333 like those SQ and TransAsia are pretty new and they can easily beat or match any B772ER in any operation matrix yet save more fuel. PB should go for interim A333 subfleet and order B787-9 for future. A339neo just doesn't go in the same line as A350, 77X and 787. Unless MAB can cut a very good deal with lessors who placed order for A338/A339.

Bellew mentioned countless time at townhall that the a330 will be strictly PW.

Nah, recently he soften his stance on PW engine only, and is open to any engine type as long as the "number" is right.. There aren't any young PW A333 going around, RR yes, plenty of them.

#25 V Wong

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 03:32 PM

Wow that was fast : 

 

http://www.thestar.c...body-expansion/



#26 David.W

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 04:32 PM

from 25 now 42???

Would be interesting if MAB would change the interior of the second-hand widebody jets

or will the existing interior be good enough

Edited by David.W, 24 March 2017 - 04:32 PM.


#27 Mohd Suhaimi Fariz

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 05:37 PM

Hot air being blown?



#28 Mushrif A

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 06:47 PM

from 25 now 42???

Would be interesting if MAB would change the interior of the second-hand widebody jets

or will the existing interior be good enough



You really need to read the article to understand the figures. Nothing new really that hasnt been mentioned before.

#29 geoff.leo

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:43 PM

Will be great to see the 777 back in MAS.

Maybe there were good reasons for it, but I always thought it was premature to retire their 772s, some of which are still idling around KUL.

If only they refurbished them ages ago. They could have been put to good use now and allow MAS to capitalise on the increased demand while they sort out their long term wide body fleeting plans.

#30 David.W

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 12:51 AM

Will be great to see the 777 back in MAS.

Maybe there were good reasons for it, but I always thought it was premature to retire their 772s, some of which are still idling around KUL.

If only they refurbished them ages ago. They could have been put to good use now and allow MAS to capitalise on the increased demand while they sort out their long term wide body fleeting plans.

Would love to see the 777 in the stroke livery

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#31 S V Choong

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 02:18 AM

Would love to see the 777 in the stroke livery

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Full Wau please, not the cropped version :)

 

Would be the 777-300ER.... and 787 over A330neo please!!


Edited by S V Choong, 26 March 2017 - 02:19 AM.


#32 Vicknesh PS

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 11:16 AM

That is a nice pic.
Personally I would like to see the 777 and 787 in our inventory.

Switching to Boeing will be a challenge for a company in recovery mode.....

#33 Radzi

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 11:26 AM

Personally, I hope it is anything BUT the B777. Having MH flying the B777 again so soon feels like an insult to me and colleagues.



#34 David.W

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 12:27 PM

Any idea what the current status is of the stored 772?

Dose MAB actually still own any?

#35 David.W

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 04:55 PM

the 777 would be interim to restart AMS in 2019/2020? Why not increase the A350 fleet

The price for leased 777 would be dropping below the a350 even if it means more money spend on a different plane type instead of a common fleet

interesting..

Edited by David.W, 26 March 2017 - 04:58 PM.


#36 flee

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 05:20 PM

the 777 would be interim to restart AMS in 2019/2020? Why not increase the A350 fleet

The price for leased 777 would be dropping below the a350 even if it means more money spend on a different plane type instead of a common fleet

interesting..

If this happens, it is MAB returning to the bad old times - making shortsighted and short term decisions so that the CEO of the time can show nice "profit" numbers for one or two years....


Then he can claim his big bonus and vanish.



#37 JuliusWong

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 10:18 AM

Any idea what the current status is of the stored 772?

Dose MAB actually still own any?

  1. 9M-MRA- Stored at KUL as 9M-MRA
  2. 9M-MRB- Scrapped as 2-MMRB at LETL
  3. 9M-MRC- Being prepared at PVG for VIM Airlines as VP-BDX
  4. 9M-MRD- Crashed as MH17
  5. 9M-MRE- Stored at KUL as 9M-MRE
  6. 9M-MRF- Active with Vim Airlines as VP-BVA
  7. 9M-MRG- Scrapped as N703AC at Lake Charles 
  8. 9M-MRH- Stored as N318MY at GYR, bought by Delta Air Lines as spare aircraft
  9. 9M-MRI- Scrapped as N105GT at TLV
  10. 9M-MRJ- Active with Vim Airlines as VP-BDW
  11. 9M-MRK- Scrapped as 9M-MRK at SFB
  12. 9M-MRL- Stored at SZB as 9M-MRL, supposedly going to Bayu Air
  13. 9M-MRM- Stored SZB as 9M-MRM, supposedly going to Bayu Air
  14. 9M-MRN- Stored at KUL as 9M-MRN
  15. 9M-MRO- Crashed as MH370
  16. 9M-MRP- Stored SZB as 9M-MRP, supposedly going to Bayu Air
  17. 9M-MRQ- Stored at KUL as 9M-MRQ, being prepared for Bayu Air


#38 BC Tam

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 12:31 PM

Why not outsource all the proposed 772 routes to Bayu Air ? :D

Edited by BC Tam, 27 March 2017 - 12:32 PM.


#39 flee

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 12:38 PM

I heard unconfirmed reports that some have been sold to Mugabe.



#40 tktoh

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 09:16 PM

Malaysia Airlines offers to lease A330s from Alitalia

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Malaysia Airlines offers to lease A330s from Alitalia

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