Wilson Kook 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2008 I thought it would be interesting to start a topic regarding possible airlines to KLIA. Just to get things moving, any news on BA and ANA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kandiah k 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2008 I doubt BA or ANA will be coming about this side. ANA already code shares on all MH flight to Japan from KUL. As for BA, I dont think we are on their list at all, even so with the current economic downturn and the possible merger with QF. Malaysians would just have to live with the fact that BA, our once important friend is no longer an available option from KUL. The nearest you can catch them at an airport is at SIN. We'll see !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilson Kook 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2008 Ahh. that's too bad I guess. KLIA needs new birds. Badly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2008 I doubt BA or ANA will be coming about this side. ANA already code shares on all MH flight to Japan from KUL. As for BA, I dont think we are on their list at all, even so with the current economic downturn and the possible merger with QF. Malaysians would just have to live with the fact that BA, our once important friend is no longer an available option from KUL. The nearest you can catch them at an airport is at SIN. We'll see !! Apart from spotters who would like something new to photograph or people who fly First/Business class why would you want BA? The Y class product is pretty poor compared to MH (744's). Tight legroom, old entertainment system, poor food and a condescending crew. For Y class give me SQ or MH anyday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kandiah k 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 Apart from spotters who would like something new to photograph or people who fly First/Business class why would you want BA? The Y class product is pretty poor compared to MH (744's). Tight legroom, old entertainment system, poor food and a condescending crew. For Y class give me SQ or MH anyday. I totally agree but the fact that BA flies to KUL is simply an image and branding for the airport itself, considering it is a big gun despite the negative factors they possess as you mention. MH for me anyday too....quality over prestige. I must say that a good way of feeling good about not having BA here or even the other big guns is that MH has better services hence people prefer them over BA, QF, NH, SA, AF and etc. Look at KUL-FRA for example....MH certainly offers a better inflight product compared to LH and given a choice I would surely choose MH to LH but the price difference is an important facotr these days, hence MH has reduced their capacity with the emergence of new airlines such as EY, QR and EK as well as LH for the pricie factor. I should think KLIA is doing "ok" although they arent performing as well as they expect to, thanks to the slow response of certain quarters who sat on things too long and resulted in SIN and BKK heading the hub concept ahead of KUL. My 2 cents worth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 I totally agree but the fact that BA flies to KUL is simply an image and branding for the airport itself, considering it is a big gun despite the negative factors they possess as you mention. MH for me anyday too....quality over prestige. I must say that a good way of feeling good about not having BA here or even the other big guns is that MH has better services hence people prefer them over BA, QF, NH, SA, AF and etc. Look at KUL-FRA for example....MH certainly offers a better inflight product compared to LH and given a choice I would surely choose MH to LH but the price difference is an important facotr these days, hence MH has reduced their capacity with the emergence of new airlines such as EY, QR and EK as well as LH for the pricie factor. I should think KLIA is doing "ok" although they arent performing as well as they expect to, thanks to the slow response of certain quarters who sat on things too long and resulted in SIN and BKK heading the hub concept ahead of KUL. My 2 cents worth If one is traveling from point to point like KUL/FRA, MH is fine. However, when you need to travel to other city like STR or HAJ, or more than one city in Europe, MH will be more expensive and inconvenience. Likewise for travelers from outside FRA. To most frequent travelers; frequency, connection, schedule is more important than inflight service and fare. Although LH, BA, KL may be offering poorer inflight service but their yield and load between SIN/Europe is higher than MH from KUL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) Apart from spotters who would like something new to photograph or people who fly First/Business class why would you want BA? The Y class product is pretty poor compared to MH (744's). Tight legroom, old entertainment system, poor food and a condescending crew. For Y class give me SQ or MH anyday. Agree with you on BA cattle truck. Even if i can earn AAdvantage miles on BA between US-UK, I'd still fly AA if i have to fly whY for the better seats. Only reason I'd fly BA is the New Generation Club World seats, and the extremely good value World Traveller's Plus fares. Otherwise it's QF all the way for me, especially with a consistently good to excellent yet down to earth and casual crew, a menu and wine list which promotes premier Australian produce. LH F is also a commendable class act with quite possibly the most diverse wine list I've ever seen but sadly J is worlds apart - thankfully i've yet to experience LH's infamously poor whY product. SQ might have a good hard product but I found their food and wine lists to be rather staid and pedestrian in F and J, and the crew generally overly formal though dependable and efficient (just don't ask them for anything "out of the ordinary"). Of course when you use LH F and QF as benchmarks you end up having too high a standard. Have flown MH a few times and have found them pretty good. The crew is more casual and not overly formal or subservient like on a lot of other Asian carriers. But alas this points tart has to wait till they join OW. Edited December 18, 2008 by Keith T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) If one is traveling from point to point like KUL/FRA, MH is fine. However, when you need to travel to other city like STR or HAJ, or more than one city in Europe, MH will be more expensive and inconvenience. Likewise for travelers from outside FRA. There ought to be MH through fares to other European cities via interline or codeshare agreements, for not much more than the fare to the gateway city. You could fly MH into LHR and add on BD flights to other parts of the UK for instance as there's a MH/BD codeshare. Out of FRA I'd be surprised if there isn't an interline agreement between MH and LH. Most IATA fares can be interlined with one another. Exception being DL, which bizarrely excluded a lot of non-Skyteam carriers from combining/interlining in the latest filing of their fares. So you couldn't for instance fly BA or LH to ATL and throw in a domestic flight by DL on the same ticket not even if you pay for the DL flight as an add on. Conversely you can't also include intra Europe segments on BA when DL is the major international carrier. Oops OT... Edited December 18, 2008 by Keith T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Taken a leaf from Ryanair and Charleroi Airport, may be MAHB should be paying BA, AF, UA, DL, QF, etc to operate to KUL. Since MAHB is operating more and more duty free at KUL, MAHB can recover the subsidies from increased duty free sales. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilson Kook 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2008 Whatever happened to Kingfisher Airlines and Oman Air? Thought they were flying into KLIA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamizi Hj Tamby 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) Whatever happened to Kingfisher Airlines and Oman Air? Thought they were flying into KLIA? Kingfisher Airlines haven't operated flights to KUL;but on Jan 16th they will be flying to SIN,using A330-200,according to Wikipedia. Edited December 30, 2008 by Tamizi Hj Tamby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted December 30, 2008 I'm not sure when Air Niugini started operation to KUL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaity 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2008 I'm not sure when Air Niugini started operation to KUL. Capt, Air Nuigini to KUL from Port Moresby PX394 POM1500 - 1910KUL 757 every Wed starting from 10/29/08 Going back at night PX395 KUL2010 - 0420+1POM 757. Some how, you and another friend of mine spotted the plane in the morning. A check in their website didn't show any schedule change for above flights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted December 30, 2008 It was taken on a Friday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaity 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2008 It was taken on a Friday. I was puzzled why on a Friday ? Ttried waiting for her on Wed evening but left early due to rain. Couldn't find info in KLIA website or Flightstat about this flight Another mystery airline like Biman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilson Kook 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Our beloved MAHB boss keeps talking bout new airlines flying into KLIA. Till now, no news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hon Kit 3 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 So many airlines are going down under via SIN. WHY KUL only got MH and D7?! Bring QF here!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilson Kook 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2009 We all want QF and BA here, don't we Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S. Huang 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) Hmm... it's quite obvious that few airlines find KLIA an attraction stop. And until high yielding traffic can be eeked out of there, the only place with action will be KL LCCT. In any case, SIN or BKK (dare I say the two de facto gateway to Malaysia) is just a skip across the prairie. MH provides very good connections to both cities. From there, you'll be spoilt by the huge variety of airlines to choose from.... including the much loved BA and QF. Edited March 25, 2009 by S. Huang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilson Kook 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2009 I guess we have to be contended with the likes of AIR NIUGINI.... for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted March 27, 2009 In any case, SIN or BKK (dare I say the two de facto gateway to Malaysia) is just a skip across the prairie. MH provides very good connections to both cities. From there, you'll be spoilt by the huge variety of airlines to choose from.... including the much loved BA and QF. A hub supposed to provide convenient connection to all the cities in the region. To limit or sanction certain cities is against the objective and self defeating. Believe MAB and MH had this mentality, a reason why KUL failed to become a hub. Most pax connecting via BKK take TG for star alliance connection. MH’s KUL/BKK sector are mostly point to point pax. On KUL/BKK, AK and MH provide 12 and 4 daily flight respectively. Which terminal, LCCT or MTB is more successful? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilson Kook 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong. But I feel they were always afraid of losing their passengers to the other big players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilson Kook 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) Because I have soooooooooo much time, lemme update all of you a list of airlines(excluding cargo) operating at KLIA/LCCT (As of April 2004) Air Asia (Air Asia X, Thai Air Asia, Indonesia Air Asia) Air India Air India Express Air Mauritius Air Niugini Best Air Biman Bangladesh Cathay Pacific Cebu Pacific Airways China Airlines China Eastern Airlines China Southern Airlines Egyptair Emirates Airlines Etihad Airways Eva Airways Garuda Indonesia Gulf Air Hong Kong Express Airways Iran Air Japan Airlines Jet Airways Jetstar Asia Airways KLM Royal Dutch Airlines Korean Airlines Kuwait Airways Lion Airlines Lufthansa German Airlines Malaysia Airlines Merpati Nusantara Airlines Myanmar Airways International Qatar Airways Royal Brunei Airlines Royal Nepal Airlines Saudi Arabian Airlines Singapore Airlines Sri Lankan Airlines Thai Airways International Tiger Airways Uzbekistan Airways Vietnam Airlines Xiamen Airlines Yemenia Yemen Airlines (Source: www.klia.com.my) Edited April 21, 2009 by Wilson Kook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Li Ren 2 Report post Posted April 21, 2009 Just 43 only,which airline will be the 44th to join in?.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azuddin 1 Report post Posted April 21, 2009 Any chance for Delta to fly KUL? They going to fly NRT-SGN and NRT-BKK starting May. Azuddin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites