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Malaysia Airlines NS19 Changes


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#21 Craig

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 12:12 AM

There are huge numbers of Malaysians work in Manila in casinos and online gambling/betting call centres

That's news to me. As a low wage card dealer etc. or upper management?

 

I dont doubt you but am curious why Msians were employed but not locals. There are many Filipino maids with degrees for example.

There are a lot of Filipinos working in Las Vegas' gambling industry which is why I am surprised, if it's true, that Malaysians are being employed to work in Philippine's gambling sector. Malaysian workers aren't cheap.



#22 KK Lee

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:50 AM

That's news to me. As a low wage card dealer etc. or upper management?
 
There are a lot of Filipinos working in Las Vegas' gambling industry which is why I am surprised, if it's true, that Malaysians are being employed to work in Philippine's gambling sector. Malaysian workers aren't cheap.


Similarly, there are many Malaysians working at casino in Cambodia but mostly as supervisor and above.

#23 Holger

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 06:06 PM

Malaysia Airlines in summer 2019 season once again adjusts Kota Kinabalu – Tokyo Narita route, as the oneWorld member tempoerary suspends this route between 07MAY19 and 21JUL19. This route is served twice weekly, with Boeing 737-800.

MH080 BKI0040 – 0720NRT 738 14
MH081 NRT0930 – 1440BKI 738 14

 

 

source: airlineroute

 

All other Airlines expanding at KK....MAS is reducing...



#24 Eddy Liew

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 06:10 PM

 
source: airlineroute
 
All other Airlines expanding at KK....MAS is reducing...


Yes, sad indeed that KK is losing NRT albeit temporary. MAS is struggling big time.

#25 KK Lee

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 06:18 PM

 
source: airlineroute
 
All other Airlines expanding at KK....MAS is reducing...


Mh 80/81 frequency is basically cater for tourists only. Mh would be better off operate as charter airlines.

#26 Mr.Bandit

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 10:49 PM

I was weird that KK is booming with Korean air carrier for Seoul route but MH didnt serve the route even as a charter.



#27 KK Lee

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 02:09 AM

I was weird that KK is booming with Korean air carrier for Seoul route but MH didnt serve the route even as a charter.


Probably it doesn't meet mab corporate objective or kpi.

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 04:18 AM

I was weird that KK is booming with Korean air carrier for Seoul route but MH didnt serve the route even as a charter.

 

MH did try with their then newer 737-800s back in 2010, 3 times per week, but that didn't last long.



#29 Pall

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 07:11 AM

I heard OD is testing the waters for BKI-ICN sector on charter basis, it might end up being a scheduled one soon if the numbers work correctly in their way. However its sad that MH is not taking advantage of the Korean invasion.


Edited by Pall, 29 December 2018 - 07:13 AM.


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Posted 29 December 2018 - 07:39 AM

It's not that feasible when MH is operating a non-hub route on a twice weekly service. I am not sure if cabin crew can do a turnaround at NRT (I doubt it - that's 14 hour work day) but pilots will need to stay in TYO (and MH doesn't have a bunch of 737 pilots sitting around). And worse if they do not have any pilots/crew based in BKI to operate such flights.

 

Other changes:

Kuala Lumpur - Osaka Seasonal increase from 7 to 10 weekly flights for March and April 2019

MH7206 1330KUL - KIX2100 567 333

MH7207 2340KIX - KUL0545+1 567 333

 

Kuala Lumpur - Bangkok Frequency increase from 42 to 44 weekly services

MH798 0705KUL - BKK0820 13 738

MH799 0920BKK - KUL1235 13 738

Also, MH 782/783 will see its A333 service increase from 2 to 4 weekly (day 3457 on A333)

 

Kuala Lumpur - Jakarta MH720/721 will remain A332 for NS19



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Posted 29 December 2018 - 09:50 AM

It's not that feasible when MH is operating a non-hub route on a twice weekly service. I am not sure if cabin crew can do a turnaround at NRT (I doubt it - that's 14 hour work day) but pilots will need to stay in TYO (and MH doesn't have a bunch of 737 pilots sitting around). And worse if they do not have any pilots/crew based in BKI to operate such flights.
 

BKI-NRT vice versa 738 crew do not get night stop. Usually they will be paxing(so called rest sleeping on Y seats for cabin crew and j seats for pilots) on widebody back to KUL or paxing the other way to NRT if they were tasked to do NRT-BKI.

For KUL to NRT, Widebody crew do have nightstop pattern but is rare to get as most will be getting the paxing roster. KIX has regular nightstop though.

During Muelers tenure he proposed setting up a BKi based for Sabah based crews and it was greatly received. Nearly 30-50 crews apply even those from Widebody willing to go down to the 737 for it. These crew have houses in kk and there's no nid for mab to fork out anything for hotels or allowances. But as usual no input from management and mueler also left. Most Sabah based pilots have run to AK. As AK made a promise that they'll be based in BKI during interviews. Majority of them now based in kk and are happy.

Many oversights from mab management throughout the years.

Edited by jahur, 29 December 2018 - 10:00 AM.


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Posted 29 December 2018 - 02:59 PM

BKI-NRT vice versa 738 crew do not get night stop. Usually they will be paxing(so called rest sleeping on Y seats for cabin crew and j seats for pilots) on widebody back to KUL or paxing the other way to NRT if they were tasked to do NRT-BKI.

For KUL to NRT, Widebody crew do have nightstop pattern but is rare to get as most will be getting the paxing roster. KIX has regular nightstop though.

During Muelers tenure he proposed setting up a BKi based for Sabah based crews and it was greatly received. Nearly 30-50 crews apply even those from Widebody willing to go down to the 737 for it. These crew have houses in kk and there's no nid for mab to fork out anything for hotels or allowances. But as usual no input from management and mueler also left. Most Sabah based pilots have run to AK. As AK made a promise that they'll be based in BKI during interviews. Majority of them now based in kk and are happy.

Many oversights from mab management throughout the years.

 

Having crew based in BKI is certainly the most logical plan for MH, besides they already have Maswings operating out of BKI on behalf of the group. Upgauge that unit to become a LCC operating jets to North Asia would solve the gap. 



#33 Craig

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 03:09 PM

I am confused. When MH flies these thin routes, people here complain that it's doing it for the <insert prestige, state, government official etc.>. When MH suspends the route, MH <can't compete with XYZ airline who's flying that route, leaving my home airport, not serving the community, I've been on it once and it was full so why can't MH make money etc.>

 

BKI-NRT vice versa 738 crew do not get night stop. Usually they will be paxing(so called rest sleeping on Y seats for cabin crew and j seats for pilots) on widebody back to KUL or paxing the other way to NRT if they were tasked to do NRT-BKI.

For KUL to NRT, Widebody crew do have nightstop pattern but is rare to get as most will be getting the paxing roster. KIX has regular nightstop though.

I totally forgot about deadheading crew both ways (but still inefficient staff roster).

 

More importantly, I didn't realize they deadhead crew for KUL-NRT flights. That seems a little odd considering there are 12 weekly flights and I doubt staff are happy about deadheading on MH88 to work on MH89 a few hours later. My MH89 crew told me they spent a night in NRT.



#34 jahur

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 03:18 PM

I totally forgot about deadheading crew both ways (but still inefficient staff roster).
 
More importantly, I didn't realize they deadhead crew for KUL-NRT flights. That seems a little odd considering there are 12 weekly flights and I doubt staff are happy about deadheading on MH88 to work on MH89 a few hours later. My MH89 crew told me they spent a night in NRT.

In the old days NRT was always a nightstop sector. Nowadays you would have to see which Nrt pattern you would get. If it's the bad which nowadays is normal pretty rare to get more relaxing pattern, then well most crew would just endure it.

Edited by jahur, 29 December 2018 - 03:21 PM.


#35 Craig

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 03:40 PM

In the old days NRT was always a nightstop sector. Nowadays you would have to see which Nrt pattern you would get. If it's the bad which nowadays is normal pretty rare to get more relaxing pattern, then well most crew would just endure it.


My old days was July of 2018 🙊

I am still surprised they deadhead crew to/from NRT/KUL. I know airlines deadhead crew but usually its because of less than 3 weekly flights or because of safety issues at destination. What about ICN where they have the same amount of flights and similar flying time?

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 09:21 AM

Loads of korean tourists to BKI and non serviced by MH sounds like, quoting a minister, another "zero dollar tourism".

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 06:18 PM

MH did try with their then newer 737-800s back in 2010, 3 times per week, but that didn't last long.

And before that they did the KUL-KCH-BKI-SEL and KUL-BKI-SEL 'bendies' for a few years, on their own without competition
Somehow MH managed to 'rationalized' the route as being non viable and abruptly pulled out, whilst the Korean carriers started to make their presence (after testing market with seasonal charters)
Current state of affairs would indicate that Malaysians (MH management anyway) and South Koreans have very differing definitions of the term 'rational' :D

#38 Craig

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 12:19 AM

I bet our neighbor has a similar forum called Thaiwings and they are discussing how MH, OD, AK flies KUL-HKT multiple times a day but zero on TG. Or Aussiewings where MH, OD, D7 flies multiple daily flights to SYD, MEL, PER but QF/JQ can't make a single flight work.



#39 Mohd Suhaimi Fariz

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 06:42 AM

And before that they did the KUL-KCH-BKI-SEL and KUL-BKI-SEL 'bendies' for a few years, on their own without competition
Somehow MH managed to 'rationalized' the route as being non viable and abruptly pulled out, whilst the Korean carriers started to make their presence (after testing market with seasonal charters)
Current state of affairs would indicate that Malaysians (MH management anyway) and South Koreans have very differing definitions of the term 'rational' :D

 

Or maybe it's a case of Koreans having an affinity for Korean products unlike Malaysians who would go out of their way NOT to use Malaysian products.

 

The fact that even AK/D7 is absent from the route shows how it's not a lucrative market to serve.



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Posted 31 December 2018 - 09:07 AM

 

Or maybe it's a case of Koreans having an affinity for Korean products unlike Malaysians who would go out of their way NOT to use Malaysian products.

 

The fact that even AK/D7 is absent from the route shows how it's not a lucrative market to serve.

 

 

Agreed with this. before this my ex-company dealing with a Korean base travel agent, they require all the tourism spot operator is run by Korean themselves. instead of locals operator. 

which now alerted our Sabah Tourism board too. ie from the bus manufacturer (which now they accepted local bus or japan manufacturer), restaurant (korean cuisine is still their first priority), souvenirs/shopping stops, tour guides.... 






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