Radzi 2 Report post Posted February 22, 2006 Exactly, at least at KLM (and subsidiary companies)...cannot speak for Malaysian airlines (MH/AK), though From what I heard, AK crew will eat food from the same roadside stall....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imran K. 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2006 If the Almighty wants you to die...then you'll die..regardless of what you ate...or which oven it was cooked in... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teoh Z Yao 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) I think the control column hides the actual speed. At high level there is not much space between min and max speed. A.k.a coffin corner. I think Radzi is right. The tape is hid by the yoke. Can please tell me the cruise speeds for 772, 744, and 734 at different FL's? Do we fly at any cruise speed as long as we are within the safe cruising speed margin? I really would like to know... Edited February 23, 2006 by Teoh Z Yao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 CRZ speed. ECON value depending on the Cost Index. Average CRZ Speed of: 777 = Mach 0.84 747 = Mach 0.855 @ 0.86 737 = Mach 0.74 330/340 (dash 200/300) = Mach 0.82 (pls correct me if im wrong on this Buses) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attan 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 Thanks, TK. So I haven't been speeding by flying the B747 and B777 at M0.82. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 Try fly faster Attan...he he he he Panel missing...?? Too minimum that will cause drag. A hole in my wing!!! as we reach KUL...engineer were ready to put a new panel. maybe inbound to NRT...it flew off!! he he he he Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 CRZ speed. ECON value depending on the Cost Index. Average CRZ Speed of: 777 = Mach 0.84 747 = Mach 0.855 @ 0.86 737 = Mach 0.74 330/340 (dash 200/300) = Mach 0.82 (pls correct me if im wrong on this Buses) During my cargo days (1997-2000) I used to be able to tell the type of aircraft by their reported speed. SQ Celestar (A340) fly at M.80. The A330 at M.82. The rest as per TK's number. BTW the 734 can go as fast as .78 but it will be too noisy inside the cockpit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imran K. 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 Radzi, How fast have you pushed the 737 to? Dont worry la...I wont complain to Mr. T (the GOOD Mr. T) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attan 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Thanks for the input, Radzi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abel E 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2006 is there any thing to share with us Brother TK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaity 1 Report post Posted February 27, 2006 Try fly faster Attan...he he he he Panel missing...?? Too minimum that will cause drag. A hole in my wing!!! as we reach KUL...engineer were ready to put a new panel. maybe inbound to NRT...it flew off!! he he he he TK, you speeding-kah ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teoh Z Yao 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2006 Thanks, TK, for the information. I thought I saw somewhere or heard from someone that the 734 cruise at speed close to the 777 and 747 and so I thought I was flying slow all the time... Ok... Now I am not wrong... Thanks Radzi also for sharing your experience... Have a more specific question here: MH 734 cruise at what speed at FL 250, PEN - KUL, for example? How about the 744, 772? Speed in Mach or IAS (or TAS)? Thanks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2006 KUL-PEN-KUL on a 777. Since it is a short flight for a 777, what we did was we use selected speed... 280 knots climb, cruise and descent. depending on pilots. as for me the 280 knots is better. Not too fast and not too slow. It is too short for Cost index (econ) speed. Fuel use...minimum. I wonder what speed does LeeCH fly on KUL-SIN-KUL sector....thats super shorts!! Cant remember what speed i flew on that sector.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeeCH 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) SIN-KUL vv sector, speed is always a commander discretion. Hehe.... On a serious note, we always leave it on econ speed, which is close to 300 kts. Very fast for a short sector. Depart SIN on 02 and land in KL on 32, you will get sometimes flight time of 28 mins. KUL approach ask you to speed up, can expect even shorter. If weather is bad, we do 280kts. I am a ladies man, always concern how my crew behind will catchup. I tend to like the 280 kts concepts selected speed for climb cruise and descent. So all my SQ gfs behind will apreciate and love me. Hehe....its tough to serve drinks on a full load 777 on such short flights. In Business class even a light snack. Add in a little of weather, they all will tremble.... Forget to add, our cruise time is about 4 minutes. Edited February 28, 2006 by LeeCH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norman 1 Report post Posted February 28, 2006 Forget to add, our cruise time is about 4 minutes. 4 minutes.... that's nice.. SQ really make you guys work ... out of 28min.. only 4 min break Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted February 28, 2006 Must be lots of fun to be doing so many take offs and landings in a day when you do the SIN KUL SIN sector Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 When is the 777 KUL-PEN-KUL sector scheduled? I mean what is the time or arrival and departure from Penang.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teoh Z Yao 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Wow, wow... Thanks to the contributors! Now I see that speed is up to the commander's discresion. 280kts is good... ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imran K. 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Must be lots of fun to be doing so many take offs and landings in a day when you do the SIN KUL SIN sector Just imagine KUL-IPH-KUL...or KUL-KUA-KUL... mana ada crusing time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 dunno if sempat cruise or not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denny Yen 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Just imagine KUL-IPH-KUL...or KUL-KUA-KUL... mana ada crusing time! Most airlines (for e.g., AC Jazz, ANK and LH Regional) use DHC8-300, ATR42/72 or BAe146 for these kind of intercity flights. In Japan, they use a self-service ticket kiosk, which can read driving license/passport. Just go to the airport, pay and collect your ticket/boarding pass at the vending machine. Compared to Bullet trains, these flights are cheaper and faster. Passengers take it because of its frequency and less hassle check-in. Flights are reasonably frequent enough that it's like a highway bus service. Flying time is 40mins or 50mins. They are fast, efficient and a quick way to get around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Most airlines (for e.g., AC Jazz, ANK and LH Regional) use DHC8-300, ATR42/72 or BAe146 for these kind of intercity flights. In Japan, they use a self-service ticket kiosk, which can read driving license/passport. Just go to the airport, pay and collect your ticket/boarding pass at the vending machine. Compared to Bullet trains, these flights are cheaper and faster. Passengers take it because of its frequency and less hassle check-in. Flights are reasonably frequent enough that it's like a highway bus service. Flying time is 40mins or 50mins. They are fast, efficient and a quick way to get around. Wow..now only i know that.. If it happens it Malaysia, that should be good! Vending machine selling tickets! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeeCH 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2006 Greetings from LAX my buddies, 4 minutes is a break? U sure? Have to get ATIS, paperwork, make passenger announcement, complete descent checklist. Thrw in some weather.......fuawah....smoke can come out from head already. Gavin, its SIN KUL SIN and again SIN KUL SIN. I got no complains, I like the fast pace and fly back to my home. Hehe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attan 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Greetings from LAX my buddies, 4 minutes is a break? U sure? Have to get ATIS, paperwork, make passenger announcement, complete descent checklist. Thrw in some weather.......fuawah....smoke can come out from head already. Gavin, its SIN KUL SIN and again SIN KUL SIN. I got no complains, I like the fast pace and fly back to my home. Hehe... ...and people think the autopilot is doing everything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2006 (edited) ...and people think the autopilot is doing everything Yea! During my dad's comapny trip, some of them also said.. "Pilot,easy job only..nothing to do,set set set and then sit there only.Maybe whole trip is 1hour, work for 5 minutes only!" I really FEDUP with this guys..Annoyed me! Edited March 2, 2006 by Min Chun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
