H C Chai 4 Report post Posted August 19, 2007 Hi guys Found this on amadeus.net, quite interesting. Not sure how accurate this is, but I believe amadeus is a fairly trustable website. Looks like folks from Kuching will be seeing some turboprops back in action this October KCH-BTU MH3384 STD 1625 STA 1725 A/C F50 KCH-SBW MH3408 STD 1910 STA 1955 A/C F50 MH3408 also continues to MYY, leaving SBW 2015 arriving MYY 2110 These flights are also shown as "operated by another airline". It doesn't mention the airline's name but I guess it would be MASWing? Maybe someone can clarify... hope I am not confusing anyone here Btw does MASWing has its own website? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted August 19, 2007 (edited) MASWing will use the "Malaysian 3xxx" callsign. Just like the good old days before being taken over by FauxAir. Edited August 19, 2007 by Radzi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M. Sofian H. 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2007 Chai, i think the data in amadeus.net never updated, KCH-BTU MH3384 STD 1625 STA 1725 A/C F50 KCH-SBW MH3408 STD 1910 STA 1955 A/C F50 u can try PEN-LGK, still not available. so the conclusion, this website never update since before RAS Mr Radzi, can u explain this FauxAir. what the mean????? sorry maa my language is bad... but i will try to improve my lang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew K 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2007 Its a remark directed at FlyAsianExpress aka FAX, which hasn't been doing a stellar job connecting rural Sabah and Sarawak much to the displeasure of the local government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rozhan 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2007 MAS already has MASWing's schedule in its website under online timetable, although the online booking pulldown menu has yet to include RAS destinations. But MAS' announcement recently mentioned that bookings can already be made at MAS ticket offices. Look around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted August 19, 2007 FAX uses the callsign "Fax Air". Sounds very much Faux Air to me, in callsign as well as in operation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew K 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 Whoops. Looks like I got it wrong. Apologies captain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chan CS 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) MAS already has MASWing's schedule in its website under online timetable, although the online booking pulldown menu has yet to include RAS destinations. But MAS' announcement recently mentioned that bookings can already be made at MAS ticket offices. Look around. Hello Rozhan, I can't view the timetable in route BTU-BKI... Can you please check for me if you can check too? Hehee... Anyone else know about the time for the route? Also SBU-BKI... Hehe... Thanks in advance!! Edit: The route map is out anyway... Edited August 20, 2007 by Chan CS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H C Chai 4 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) I can't view the timetable in route BTU-BKI... Me too... But based on amadeus there are two daily flights between SBW and BKI. Personally I dont think this is the 'old information' as before the route rationalisation, MH operated the Fokker flights under MH2xxx. The MH3xxx only applies to RAS operated by the Twin Otter. MH3182 STD 1130 STA 1305 A/C F50 Nonstop MH3240 STD 0710 STA 0930 A/C F50 1 stop via BTU wow I didn't know it takes that long to fly a turboprop from SBW to BKI. The journey time is even longer than KCH-BKI on a 737 Edited August 20, 2007 by H C Chai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chan CS 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 Hey Chai, how about the BTU-BKI? Hehe... Thanks for your info anyway!! But the SBW time seems weird. Both daily flight are in morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 But the SBW time seems weird. Both daily flight are in morning. I hope it's not an indication we're reverting to pre-rationalisation status (which by default means we were irrational to start with) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) I hope it's not an indication we're reverting to pre-rationalisation status (which by default means we were irrational to start with) blink.gif Oh no, not again.......no thanks.... MH 3240 makes a stop in Bintulu it seems. Edited August 20, 2007 by S V Choong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chan CS 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 MH 3240 makes a stop in Bintulu it seems. Hope that is not the only flight out of BTU... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 Whoops. Looks like I got it wrong. Apologies captain. No, you were right all along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rozhan 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) Can what Chan? For MAS Wings flights, make sure it is on or after 1 October, as that is when MAS said it will take over RAS from FAX. Below is what I extracted from MAS online schedule... a simple copy and paste for a one way flight on 21 Oct. Bintulu - Kota Kinabalu Sun 21 Oct 2007 DEPARTS ARRIVES FLIGHT STOPS VIA AIRCRAFT ELAPSED TIME FREQUENCY 08:15am 09:30am MH3240 Non-Stop F50 01h15m Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun Operated by Malaysia Airlines Operated by another airline Edited August 20, 2007 by Rozhan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 Any F-50s flights from BKI or SDK to TWU? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chan CS 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 I think the timetable is only available for October, not for Nov and Dec. And I'm so disappointed with MAS hotline... I waited for half hour but they are still "busy"! Even slower than their competitor, AirAsia!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamizi Hj Tamby 1 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 My dad had secured a return ticket for my younger brother for the upcoming Hari Raya festival.Better check it out if you're planning to get onboard the MASWings Fokkers. Glad to hear that the F50 is returning to KCH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rozhan 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 Speaking of RAS, the public been made to understand that this gov-subsidised service is supposed to serve the interiors of Sabah and Sarawak, which is of course good for the people living there to travel, and for tourism activities. I'm all for it. However some routes appear to link major cities and not-too-rural towns. Why can't just the regular air services like AK or MH connect these cities and towns when the passengers are relatively well-off than farmers and villagers in the rural areas? RAS connecting Bintulu (a town well known for its LNG activities) and BKI (of course the state capital of Sabah) may have passengers in the oil and gas industry as passengers. Is it fair for the tax-payers to subsidise these financially well-off passengers for their business and liesure travels? Personally I feel the RAS is not very efficient in servicing to market it was intended for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H C Chai 4 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 Speaking of RAS, the public been made to understand that this gov-subsidised service is supposed to serve the interiors of Sabah and Sarawak, which is of course good for the people living there to travel, and for tourism activities. I'm all for it. However some routes appear to link major cities and not-too-rural towns. Why can't just the regular air services like AK or MH connect these cities and towns when the passengers are relatively well-off than farmers and villagers in the rural areas? RAS connecting Bintulu (a town well known for its LNG activities) and BKI (of course the state capital of Sabah) may have passengers in the oil and gas industry as passengers. Is it fair for the tax-payers to subsidise these financially well-off passengers for their business and liesure travels? Personally I feel the RAS is not very efficient in servicing to market it was intended for. I don't disagree However it seems to me the general public has been given the impression that all the flights operated by FAX are classified RAS. RAS refers to flights operated by the DHT-6 Twin otters, connecting the rural parts of Sarawak and Sabah to larger cities/towns such as BKI and MYY. The routes operated by F50's such as BTU-BKI, SBW-MYY are never classified as RAS (at least prior to route rationalisation), these are called the non-trunk routes. The only problem is that the market for these non-trunk routes are too small to be operated by MH's 734 or AK's 733/320... East Malaysia needs smaller planes to link all the cities/towns together. We do not have a large population, but look at our size, Sarawak itself is already bigger than the whole Peninsular Malaysia! And travelling by road is slow and painful... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 I don't disagree So you agree with Rozhan ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 During pre- Faux Air days, RAS refers to the Twin Otter services only. I think it will be the same with MASWings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 Sarawak itself is already bigger than the whole Peninsular Malaysia! And travelling by road is slow and painful... Just to be pedantic again. Is Sarawak really larger than the Peninsular? I believe with Sabah, the East is definitely larger, but don't know about Sarawak herself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H C Chai 4 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 Just to be pedantic again. Is Sarawak really larger than the Peninsular? I believe with Sabah, the East is definitely larger, but don't know about Sarawak herself. Opps, you got me here - having checked the numbers, Sarawak is in fact slightly smaller than Penisular Malaysia Peninsular Malaysia 50,806 sq mi Sarawak 48,050 sq mi Sabah 28,725 sq mi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M. Sofian H. 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 good news for sarawakian and sabahan MASWings ganti Fokker 50 dengan ATR 72 MIRI 20 Ogos – MASWings Sdn. Bhd., anak syarikat Malaysia Airlines (MAS) yang mengambil alih perkhidmatan udara pedalaman (RAS) dan beberapa laluan domestik di Sabah, Sarawak dan Labuan bermula 1 Oktober ini, dijangka menggantikan pesawat Fokker 50 miliknya ketika ini dengan pesawat Avions de Transport Regional 72 (ATR 72) pada 2009. Pengarah Urusannya, Dr. Amin Khan berkata, ia merancang membeli 10 pesawat yang mempunyai kapasiti menampung 70 penumpang berbanding 50 bagi Fokker 50. Ketika bercakap pada sidang akhbar selepas sesi taklimat mengenai operasi MASWings di sini, beliau berkata, syarikat penerbangan itu merancang menggantikan pesawat siri DHC-6-300 Twin Otter ketika ini dengan siri-400 bermula 2011, terutamanya bagi operasi RAS. Beliau, bagaimanapun tidak mendedahkan jumlah kos bagi pembelian pesawat tersebut. Beliau berkata, buat permulaannya, MASWings akan beroperasi dengan empat pesawat Fokker 50 dan empat Twin Otter bagi menyediakan kepada rangkaian 23 destinasi dan jumlah tersebut akan ditingkatkan kepada lapan Fokker 50 dan lima Twin Otter pada 1 Disember bagi purata 193 penerbangan seminggu. Dr. Amin berkata, syarikat akan membelanjakan kira-kira RM40 juta untuk membaiki dan menyenggara pesawat bagi memastikan ia berkeadaan tahan lama. “Kerja-kerja telah bermula sejak 1 Ogos. Penyenggaraan bukan hanya bagi memastikan keselamatan pesawat untuk terbang tetapi juga memenuhi syarat-syarat yang dikenakan sebelum pengambilalihan (daripada FAX),” katanya. Sementara itu, Menteri Muda Pembangunan Prasarana dan Komunikasi Sarawak Lee Kim Shin, yang turut menghadiri taklimat tersebut meminta MASWings menyemak semula cadangan struktur tambang syarikat. “Daripada maklum balas, tambang dikatakan terlalu tinggi dan MASWings perlu mengubahsuai struktur untuk terus kompetitif dan menggalakkan orang awam menggunakan perkhidmatannya,” katanya. – Bernama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
