Delay due to Typhoon-HKG

[Yeung H 0]

I have just browsed through the HKIA official website.

Seems like most of the flight out of HKG has been cancelled and some is delayed due to HKG typhoon.

Some of the flights has been diverted to TPE,CAN.MNL,SIN.....

wonder how the airline company handle this kind of serious and critical situation??are they going to compensate the passengers??

[BC Tam 2]

There is a KA A321 parked at BKI as at this evening - unable to return home ?

[Seth K 3]

Why they send to SIN??

[Pieter C. 5]

Seems like most of the flight out of HKG has been cancelled and some is delayed due to HKG typhoon.

 

No wonder CX A340 was still at the gate at 4pm in AMS, while it should have left at 2pm...

 

Passengers will not be compensated for flight cancellations because of weather issues AFAIK...

[Kevin Teh 0]

more than 300 flight affected, CX cancelled all their flight until 9am in the morning. It is believed that more than 3000 passenger is trapped in the departure area.

 

sneeze told me that during our chat last night

[Tony 1]

wonder how the airline company handle this kind of serious and critical situation??

3,000 stranded pax doesn't sound like a nice scene.

 

and to answer Yeung's question, this is where Operations Control Centre (or equivalent) of airlines kick in and start diverting/cancelling/holding flights at/to various ports.

 

I remember one occasion of flight cancellations due to weather condition, which happened recently.

 

On the 23rd of June this year, Sydney was landed with fog since 0530-0600 (local time). The airport was shut for operations and nothing landed or took off until 1130. For that, QF had to divert its flights to ports around Australia. Only speaking of the 747s, 8 of them were diverted to BNE. Remember this is QF 747s only!

 

So these 8 heavies were stranded in BNE. 3 of them ran out of crew hours and couldn't return to Sydney before its curfew which starts at 2300 (local time) daily.

 

This took QF's OCC one (1) day to sort things out and return to normal operations. On the other hand, DJ's OCC spent 3 days solving the problem and recovering from it.

 

Hope that could give you some idea of how serious a 5-hour weather standoff can be for an airline - the effects of disruption carries on like dominos (knock on)!

[Yeung H 0]

Why they send to SIN??

 

as far as i know,all the flight that diverted to SIN is QF flight from Australia and LHR wheras a large number of CX flights had been diverted to TPE and MNL.AF are going to CAN.

 

i think all QF flight choose to divert to SIN mainly because SIN is a major hub of QF in Asia.

[Kevin Teh 0]

just heard in online RTHK radio 2, there is 800++ flight departing and arriving at HKIA.... hitting the record... more than 160,000 passenger departing and arriving must be very busy

[BC Tam 2]

..... 800++ flight departing and arriving at HKIA.... hitting the record... more than 160,000 passenger departing and arriving must be very busy

Must be near pandemonium !! Remember, vast majority of those pax are probably the delayed ones, ie. anxious and not in good humour. Actually, can the airport infrastructure support be stretched to handle the sudden increase in load ? For example, how do you churn out the extra in-flight meals on time ? And the airline's crew scheduling must be topsy turvy too.

 

Mother nature's gentle way of reminding us who is boss I suppose !!

[Seth K 3]

Must be near pandemonium !! Remember, vast majority of those pax are probably the delayed ones, ie. anxious and not in good humour. Actually, can the airport infrastructure support be stretched to handle the sudden increase in load ? For example, how do you churn out the extra in-flight meals on time ? And the airline's crew scheduling must be topsy turvy too.

The kitchen must have been advised hours before the flights or may be they send in the food that they already cooked before the flight delayed

Edited August 5, 2006 by Seth K

[Teoh Z Yao 0]

Haa... Never been to HK during typhoon time... Wonder what it's like at the airport uring this time!

 

Why they send to SIN? 4 hours away! 8 hours airborne in total for coming back to HK!

[Radzi 2]

Haa... Never been to HK during typhoon time... Wonder what it's like at the airport uring this time!

 

Why they send to SIN? 4 hours away! 8 hours airborne in total for coming back to HK!

 

Not from HKG but from somewhere else.

 

Imagine PER-HKG, assume 8 hrs flying time. Halfway the company decides aircraft will not be able to land safely in HKG due typhoon, so they will tell ATC to tell pilots to divert to SIN while the company will make the necessary arrngements there. Aircraft and crew (and passangers) will wait until it is safe to land in HKG berore they recommence their journey.

 

Last year during the typhoon Haitang the aircraft that I was supposed to fly back to BKI, never leave BKI until the next day, and I had to spend extra day in TPE.

 

[Teoh Z Yao 0]

Oh yeah, I virtually forgot there are traffic from the south... <_>

[Sneeze Lam 0]

Just a bit free after following the typhoon traffic.

 

As some of you have noticed, some flights have been diverted to other airports in the region. HKIA was nearly stopping its 99% of activities. Most of the flights were scheduled to be delayed or cancel, such as CX, KA, UO and N8 those Hong Kong Based Airlines, as well as CI, AE, BR those nearby based airlines.

 

As I have copied from a taiwanese aviation site part of the list of the diverted flights, as shown below:

 

QF030 Diverted to SIN

QF029 Diverted to BKK

CX873 from SFO is in TPE.

CX288 from FRA is in TPE.

CX889 from YVR went to XMN. Now in HKG

CX252 from LHR is in TPE.

CX260 from CDG went to XMN. Now in HKG

CX270 from AMS is in TPE.

CX748 from JNB is in CAN.

AF184 from CDG is in CAN.

CI601 from TPE is in KHH.

KA111 from DAC diverted.

AE821 from TPE tried twice and diverted back to KHH.

KA439 went around.

KA489 diverted back to TPE.

MU5027 diverted back to WNZ

CZ311 diverted without trying.

CX085 gone around twice. Diverting to TPE.

UA862 went around..holding.

SQ001, aborted approach, holding.

KA8311 from PUS g/a. Diverting to KHH

BR851 went around. Diverting to KHH

3K691 went around. landed.

KA873 went around. Went around again after a -35kt microburst alert. Diverted to XMN.

CI641 went around after a "Microburst alert. Minus 40kts" Landed safely.

KE603 went around THREE times Diverted to CAN

MP093 went around. Diverted to TPE

CX317 went around. Diverted to MNL

KA813 went around twice. Diverted to XMN

MU5017 went around. Diverted to CAN

OZ721 went around. Landed

CI654 went around twice.

KA921 went around

CX692 went around. Diverted to MNL

SQ860 went around. Diverted to TPE

CI605 went around. Diverted to TPE

CZ341 went around. Diverted to CAN

CI801 went around. Diverted to KHH

CX250 went around. Diverted to TPE

JL731 went around TWICE

CX282 went around. Diverted to TPE

CX097 went around. Diverted to KHH

CA111 went around

CA185 went around

TG629 went around

KE6311 went around

CX720 went around

CX906 went around

CX091 went around

MU593 went around

CX076 went around

CX718 went around TWICE. Diverted to MNL.

CX403 went around

CX503 Diverted TPE

LY075 went around TWICE

5J110 went around TWICE diverting back to MNL

K4718 went around

UA862A went around

MU577 went around

5X168 went around

N8142 went around

PR306 went around

CX708 Diverted to Clark

CX417 Diverted to Clark

CX736 Diverted to MNL

CX412 Diverted to MNL

CX501 Diverted to CEB

CX110 Diverted to MNL

CX134 Diverted to MNL

CX256 Diverted to MNL

CX254 Diverted to BKK

CX102 Diverted to SIN

CX170 Diverted to SIN

CX108 Diverted to SIN

NZ085 Diverted to Clark

 

Another lists about flights movement during the worst period of time of that day will soon be provided.

[Seth K 3]

No MH planes, is this mean MH pilots expert in landing during typhoon Or may be cancel flights from KUL/HKG?

Edited August 7, 2006 by Seth K

[Sneeze Lam 0]

No MH planes, is this mean MH pilots expert in landing during typhoon Or may be cancel flights from KUL/HKG?

 

 

Seth, no worry.

 

I will show you all the whole HKIA movement after 1200-2400 within that day.

And you will see how serious the typhoon affected HKIA.

 

 

Since I am posting another news within the forum, and I would like to share that news with you all rather than this typhoon cooled news.

[S V Choong 4]

No diversion to MFM, SZX and CAN at all?

[Sneeze Lam 0]

No diversion to MFM, SZX and CAN at all?

 

 

KA907 Beijing Hong Kong Diverted to Fuzhou

KA905 Beijing Hong Kong Diverted to Xiamen

KA901 Beijing Hong Kong Diverted to Xiamen

KA873 Shanghai Hong Kong Diverted to Xiamen

KA813 Nanjing Hong Kong Diverted to Xiamen

 

 

I am now heading for the HKIA movement during 1200 - 2400 of 3/Aug.

Please wait me if you are still interested

 

just heard in online RTHK radio 2, there is 800++ flight departing and arriving at HKIA.... hitting the record... more than 160,000 passenger departing and arriving must be very busy

 

 

The 90% affected passengers needed 2 days (4/Aug, 5/Aug)to digest.

The departure traffic was about 50 flights within an hour time.

It was almost back to normal just yesterday.

[Sneeze Lam 0]

I better change the time from 13:00-24:00, since the wind/ gust was seriously affecting the airport from about 13:00.

 

For PAX Arrival:

 

STA　　F/N　　　　fr.　　Arr. time

12:00 BR 867　　TPE　 13:02

12:30 CX 2700 　KHI　 13:04

13:10 CX 533　　NGO　 13:08

12:40 MK 640　　MRU　 13:12

13:00 MH 072　　KUL　 13:19

13:35 NH 909　　TYO　 13:37

13:45 NH 175　　KIX 　 14:11

13:10 CX 906　　MNL　 14:35

13:00 CX 732　　BAH　 14:42

14:00 KA 281　　BKK　 16:28

15:15 LH 730　　MUC　 15:08

 

 

After the wind/ gust came a bit gentle, the first arrival flight was:

 

STA　　F/N　　　　fr.　　Arr. time

17:55 CX 722　　KUL　　19:42

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19:25 3K 695　　SIN 　　20:14

14:50 GA 860　 CGK　　21:48

21:55 VS 201　 SYD　　21:58

14:15 LY 075 　 TLV 　　22:22

 

 

For PAX Departure:

 

STA　　F/N　　　　fr.　　Dep. time

11:35 UA 862 　 SFO 13:00

12:20 CI 608　　 TPE　 13:06

11:30 CX 2582　 SPK　 13:12

11:20 TG 631　　BKK　 13:16

13:15 OZ 722 　ICN　 13:16

11:30 MU 572 　FOC 　 13:21

12:00 KA 892　　PVG　 13:24

13:15 UO 2108 RCMQ 13:52

12:30 MU 574 　FOC 　 14:03

13:45 UO 789 CNX 　 15:03

13:45 BR 868　　 TPE　 15:04

14:45 MH 073　　KUL　　15:13

14:35 JL 732　　 TYO　 15:15

15:10 NH 910　 TYO　 15:17

12:45 TG 601　　 BKK　 15:20

14:55 NH 176　　 KIX　 15:38

13:20 CX 884　　 LAX　 16:01

11:00 PR 301　　 MNL 　16:13

13:30 LH 739　　 FRA 　 16:14

 

 

 

For Cargo:

 

STD　　F/N　　　　fr.　　Dep. time

13:15 TH 8376　　SZB　　14:06

13:55 KZ 202　　 TYO 　 14:17

13:35 KL 176　　 AMS　　14:20

14:55 JL 6602　　 TYO　　 15:06

 

STA　　F/N　　　　fr.　　Arr. time

19:35 CV 792　　LUX　　　19:20

18:30 VI 249 　 OVB　　 20:18

23:40 AF 6712　 PAR　　　23:27

23:35 LH 8408 　CGN 　　23:40

17:40 TH 8375　 SZB　 　23:47

 

 

The above were all movements within the HKIA due the worst moment of us in the afternoon on 3/Aug.

35 PAX flights arr/ dep together with 4 Cargo flts dep and 5 of arr.

[Denny Yen 0]

The chaos caused by typhoon will be made worse with this 3 typhoons coming this way. Experts say the 1st typhoon will be sucked in by the 2nd, and both combined into one.

 

 

[Sing Yew 1]

The chaos caused by typhoon will be made worse with this 3 typhoons coming this way. Experts say the 1st typhoon will be sucked in by the 2nd, and both combined into one.

 

 

 

That's not good.

 

[Adrian M 0]

We had our own typhoon-ish day today. Extremely strong winds keep blowing KK and Labuan. Every blowing wind is a "whoosh". My 1st time experience this strong wind....

 

Scary....