Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted December 7, 2018 Probably the first of its kind in the world - a J+. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted December 7, 2018 Nope. China Eastern did it first with its A350. And of course, there is also BAs F is one of the worlds best biz class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2018 More info? I can't seem to find it anywhere. Are they still selling it as F/A or is it just restricted to certain markets like ICN/SYD? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kandiah k 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2018 Is QR's Q Suite in that category too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djsflynn 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2018 Official launch on Wed Dec 12, but all the details now at https://www.ausbt.com.au/malaysia-airlines-drops-first-class-rebrands-it-as-business-suites Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted December 8, 2018 Should have done this in 2013! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Tan 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2018 Is QR's Q Suite in that category too?Not quite. QSuite is just a very good J product, not a different class in itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djsflynn 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2018 Just an update to this: MH has corrected its info on lounge access, the exec I interviewed for the article emailed me overnight to say that she was wrong about partner lounge access – from December 12, Business Suites passengers will not have access to Oneworld partner first class lounges (eg QF SYD), only to the MH First Class lounges (which are losing the First Class brand and being renamed as Platinum lounges). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) J+ will no doubt allow those glc and corporate entitled to travel in j class to book, increase in revenue. However, only a350 and limited routes has this option; how much marketing resources mh should pour in is tricky. This mh j+ is basically on par with qr qsuite, which imply mh j class is in inferior class. Mean mh ticket price on j class may need to be cheaper to be competitive. Edited December 9, 2018 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din Hilmi 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2018 should have rename it back as golden club class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted December 9, 2018 Good call! MH F feels like J with caviar 😂. Even more so on the A350 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jani 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Essentially this means there is no demand for First. They should have known this already when F didn't sell in the A380s, so why did they put it in the A350s? Love the airline to bits but the continuous disappointment is just a bit too much... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johan Z 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Essentially this means there is no demand for First. They should have known this already when F didn't sell in the A380s, so why did they put it in the A350s? Love the airline to bits but the continuous disappointment is just a bit too much... Just remember, it was under previous government that they decided on having a First Class on A350 primarily to cater for government officials. I wonder if this re-branding has to do with the changes of PH government travel policy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 This mh j+ is basically on par with qr qsuite, which imply mh j class is in inferior class. Mean mh ticket price on j class may need to be cheaper to be competitive. MH Business Suites (BS) is not on par with QR QSuites. QSuites doesn't allow you access to their own al-Safwa lounge and neither do you get more mileage. You could be booked in R or J but it's still QSuites. You need to be booked in FAP for MH BS. So how much cheaper do you think MH J should be? Same price point as SV J? MH J is still better than a lot of carriers - LH/LX/BA comes to mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 MH Business Suites (BS) is not on par with QR QSuites. QSuites doesn't allow you access to their own al-Safwa lounge and neither do you get more mileage. You could be booked in R or J but it's still QSuites. You need to be booked in FAP for MH BS. So how much cheaper do you think MH J should be? Same price point as SV J? MH J is still better than a lot of carriers - LH/LX/BA comes to mind. Also, the MH BS on the 350s have more room than the QR Qsuites. I think the MH BS can be one of the best business class out there. Just like BAs F! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lim Kar Yong 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Also, the MH BS on the 350s have more room than the QR Qsuites. I think the MH BS can be one of the best business class out there. Just like BAs F! When I read MH BS - something else comes to mind ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted December 10, 2018 When I read MH BS - something else comes to mind ... Balance Sheet, perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jani 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2018 Just remember, it was under previous government that they decided on having a First Class on A350 primarily to cater for government officials. I wonder if this re-branding has to do with the changes of PH government travel policy. I really have my doubts with statements as these. Any way you can substantiate this claim? Or did I miss it being reported somewhere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lim Kar Yong 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2018 MH official statement on the BS: https://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/news-article/2018/malaysia-airlines-business-suite-launch.html It states that from 12 Dec, the BS is available, but I tried to do a dummy booking for a flight to London in January, I still see First Flex pricing being offered. And I wonder how would those who have purchased first class tickets would have felt. Anyway, hope that all goes well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted December 11, 2018 I really have my doubts with statements as these. Any way you can substantiate this claim? Or did I miss it being reported somewhere? Just remember, it was under previous government that they decided on having a First Class on A350 primarily to cater for government officials. I wonder if this re-branding has to do with the changes of PH government travel policy. London is a popular destination for our royalty, ministers (in previous administration, not sure of current) and chairman of glc. MH F was basically to serve these vvip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johan Z 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2018 I really have my doubts with statements as these. Any way you can substantiate this claim? Or did I miss it being reported somewhere? Back in the days, if you're scrolling through Instagram you can see who sits on MH first class. I think it's well known that BN cronies loved to upgrade themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted December 11, 2018 London is a popular destination for our royalty, ministers (in previous administration, not sure of current) and chairman of glc. MH F was basically to serve these vvip. Most of the folks you mentioned fly on SQ. Typically, only the very senior civil servants on official duties end up in MH F. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted December 11, 2018 Bumped into few ministers in the Platinum Lounge a month back. Minister of Transport was in the First Class Suite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Tan 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2018 Bumped into few ministers in the Platinum Lounge a month back. Minister of Transport was in the First Class Suite.One wonders if the new administration is also accorded Enrich Platinum membership Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) From MH's A350 Business Suite webpage: Seat pitch of 83 inches and width of 23 inches Full-flat bed length of 83 inches I am pretty sure that the full bed length is not 83". I am 73" (186cm) and I can't sleep with my legs straight (I think the full bed length is around 72" or 183cm). Edited December 11, 2018 by Craig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites