CH Teo 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015/02/07/Pilots-arguing-so-20-get-off-plane/ What will you chose to do if you were a passenger?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alberttky 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 I'll record the conversation, then invite the crew to my CRM class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kee Hooi Yen 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 I will do exactly as what Kee did (the passenger as mentioned in the article) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alif A. F. 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 “From both the voyage report of the flight and our understanding, the captain was instructing a third observer-trainee pilot in a stern manner as he and the co-pilot prepared for takeoff." The captain must be 'garang'... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenneth Chong WT 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 The Chinese paper reported the cabin crew exited the cockpit trembling and eyes watered and red... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 I would no doubt step outside and will probably take another option as well. Addressing fellow staff in a stern manner and caused others to be uncomfortable is not acceptable to me too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alif A. F. 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 I reckon it can be demoralising to fellow staff (even if he/she is a trainee) when they have to put up by constant stern manner by their seniors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 I reckon it can be demoralising to fellow staff (even if he/she is a trainee) when they have to put up by constant stern manner by their seniors. Indeed. Seniority and hierarchy bullshit, well practiced in Asia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CH Teo 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 I will offload myself as well, not a proper way to train a trainee in this industry where you make your passengers feels uncomfortable on the ground, what more to say in the sky... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted February 9, 2015 Sad to say, there still are dinosaurs in the aviation industry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted February 9, 2015 I reckon it can be demoralising to fellow staff (even if he/she is a trainee) when they have to put up by constant stern manner by their seniors. Look at the KE 'nut' incident too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cire 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2015 Disembark. Not at all comfortable to fly with a mentally stressed out crew. What's more with the recent cases of air crashes. The pilot/s who raised his voice is surely under some stress and not fit to fly. What would happen when in a critical situation? Barking out incoherence instruction and indirectly putting more stress on the co-pilot? Personally, I think pilots should have a calm demeanor and they should start their day off with a smile. It just make flying much more enjoyable, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ja Singh 2 Report post Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Sad to say, there still are dinosaurs in the aviation industry. This kind of behaviour not tolerated in the aviation industry in NZ. They speak to you in civiilsed manner,will point out the weakness and strength.Be it in the flight deck or cabin.And they know very well the consequences otherwise.Hence everyone follows this protocol. Edited February 10, 2015 by jadivindra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotnakal 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2015 Disembark. Not at all comfortable to fly with a mentally stressed out crew. What's more with the recent cases of air crashes. The pilot/s who raised his voice is surely under some stress and not fit to fly. What would happen when in a critical situation? Barking out incoherence instruction and indirectly putting more stress on the co-pilot? Personally, I think pilots should have a calm demeanor and they should start their day off with a smile. It just make flying much more enjoyable, no? This always happen when an ex-air force pilot become a captain in commercial airline, the CRM was shelved aside when they train a co-pilot or even a routine flight commander. Those captains go for CRM classes just to pass the class, but will seldom practice it. They are a "monster" in a cockpit. This always happen when an ex-air force pilot become a captain in commercial airline, the CRM was shelved aside when they train a co-pilot or even a routine flight commander. Those captains go for CRM classes just to pass the class, but will seldom practice it. They are a "monster" in a cockpit. Some captains will use vulgar words when they were not greeted promptly by group of co-pilots when the captain walk in for reporting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
