MAS Privatisation

[Robert 0]

5 hours ago, Craig said:

I have used that function during covid as well (granted they were all domestic flights then). I don't recall a huge schedule change or cancelations with MH for my post covid travels with them, so I wouldn't know. My MH experience is usually delays on the day of travel and it's too late to do anything about it. But a travel waiver is a bit different. It allows passengers to rebook themselves if they are flying on these dates, whether or not their flight is canceled/delayed. 

They would advertise 3 or 4 flights a days and cancel most of them and use a wide body. 

When you need to commute its a pain when the only flight of the day was at lunchtime or 5pm

[Riza 0]

Does anyone knows what happens to MTY? Under maintenance?

[jahur 0]

MAG realigning future network, to issue RFP for 25 planes in 2Q24

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KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia Aviation Group (MAG) plans to issue a request for proposal (RFP) for its second batch of 25 single-aisle planes in the second quarter of 2024 as the group reviews its network again due to global external changes.

The RFP was supposed to be issued in the first quarter.

Group managing director Datuk Captain Izham Ismail said the RFP announcement would be made in due time and did not disclose the aircraft type. 

Izham also said MAG expects to receive the first Airbus A330neo (new engine option) it ordered in 2022 in the third quarter of this year and three A350s for the its widebody fleet. 

He said the 20 A330neo planes are replacements while MAG has an option for another 20 widebody planes for future expansion. 

"We'll make both announcements (on narrowbody and widebody aircraft plans) together," he added.

Am not sure where he is going to pluck 3 more used a350s out there cause there is currently none only thing i can see is them getting lessor unit directly from airbus which means they will only enter in at best Q1 2027.

[Robert 0]

14 minutes ago, jahur said:

MAG realigning future network, to issue RFP for 25 planes in 2Q24

Am not sure where he is going to pluck 3 more used a350s out there cause there is currently none only thing i can see is them getting lessor unit directly from airbus which means they will only enter in at best Q1 2027.

This "senior aviation journalist"  never usually has any breaking news stories or scoops or appears to ask challenging questions. Maybe Im being unfair but having seen their online content its pretty weak.

[jahur 0]

16 minutes ago, Robert said:

This "senior aviation journalist"  never usually has any breaking news stories or scoops or appears to ask challenging questions. Maybe Im being unfair but having seen their online content its pretty weak.

News didnt even came out from aviation based news article. So expect their journalist to know airbus 787 and Boeing 350-1000ER as the go to lol.

[JuliusWong 0]

16 minutes ago, jahur said:

MAG realigning future network, to issue RFP for 25 planes in 2Q24

Am not sure where he is going to pluck 3 more used a350s out there cause there is currently none only thing i can see is them getting lessor unit directly from airbus which means they will only enter in at best Q1 2027.

Ahhh, the cats are now out of the bag. I can see them placing an order for 25 B737MAX-10 (they don't need them urgently, can wait for Boeing to get it certified) and another 15 A330-900neo, keep another 5 options. As for the three A350-900s, I am as lost as you. All pre-used A350s have all been taken up, unless there are some current operator which is not renewing lease.

[Robert 0]

20 minutes ago, JuliusWong said:

Ahhh, the cats are now out of the bag. I can see them placing an order for 25 B737MAX-10 (they don't need them urgently, can wait for Boeing to get it certified) and another 15 A330-900neo, keep another 5 options. As for the three A350-900s, I am as lost as you. All pre-used A350s have all been taken up, unless there are some current operator which is not renewing lease.

If they go for the max 10 then I wonder if they will fit a better cabin and use them on longer routes?

[jahur 0]

9 minutes ago, Robert said:

If they go for the max 10 then I wonder if they will fit a better cabin and use them on longer routes?

Afaik they did ordered lie flat seats but only for 10 narrowbody aircraft. Just that nobody knows whats the status of the seat order contract. 

But again end of last year the RFP was for 35 narrowbody and 10 widebody. Now on the article it seems the narrowbody got trimmed to just 25. It may be them deferring the remaining 10 to after. 

[JuliusWong 0]

5 minutes ago, jahur said:

Afaik they did ordered lie flat seats but only for 10 narrowbody aircraft. Just that nobody knows whats the status of the seat order contract. 

But again end of last year the RFP was for 35 narrowbody and 10 widebody. Now on the article it seems the narrowbody got trimmed to just 25. It may be them deferring the remaining 10 to after. 

Maybe they are going for 25 firm order + 10 options on narrowbody. Quite possibly. I honestly don't see MH going for A321neo tbh. MH always has the "moral obligation and political duty" to maintain 'Murica and EU balance.

As for widebody, 10 firm +15 options A330-900neo as what you have stated.

[JuliusWong 0]

1 hour ago, Robert said:

If they go for the max 10 then I wonder if they will fit a better cabin and use them on longer routes?

I think so, something like CX's angled seat on their A321neo. It is made by Collins Aerospace Air Rest. Oman Air is currently using it on their B737max

Cathay Pacific A321neo

Oman Air B737-MAX 8

Edited April 22 by JuliusWong

[Craig 0]

6 minutes ago, JuliusWong said:

I think so, something like CX's angled life flat seat on their A321neo. It is made by  Collins Aerospace Air Rest. Oman Air is currently using it on their B737max

Those aren’t lie flats. I am thinking more in the line of Diamond Seats (found on AA’s 321T cabin) or Aero Vantage / Vantage Solo (found on B6’s Mint and SQ 7M8).

Edited April 22 by Craig

[jahur 0]

MAG growth strategy on track

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KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia Aviation Group Bhd (MAG), the parent company of national carrier Malaysia Airlines Bhd, is likely to take delivery of six new aircraft this year after experiencing much delay from aircraft manufacturers.

MAG chief executive officer of airlines Ahmad Luqman Mohd Azmi told StarBiz that it expects to receive three wide-body Airbus A330neo by the third quarter of the year, while it will be getting three narrow-body Boeing 737-MAX 8 aircraft sometime this year.

“We have an order of 25 737-MAX 8 aircraft and we are expecting three deliveries this year.

“The rest, which is 22 of these aircraft, will be delivered in stages until 2026,” he said.

+ 3 B38M + 3 A339.

Again with the current unreliability given by Boeing and Airbus in supplying delivery timeline, It is better to start hunting for few second hand aircrafts.

[Riza 0]

MH might looks to WY since they have retired all their 330s. 

[Izanee 0]

Hainan just gave up their A350s… 

[JuliusWong 0]

3 hours ago, jahur said:

MAG growth strategy on track

+ 3 B38M + 3 A339.

Again with the current unreliability given by Boeing and Airbus in supplying delivery timeline, It is better to start hunting for few second hand aircrafts.

Half of what they have planned for this year (if you take out 9M-MVB which was supposed to be delivered last year but was only delivered in Jan 2024). Previously they were planning to take four A330-900neo and eight B737 MAX8 this year.

[JuliusWong 0]

2 hours ago, Izanee said:

Hainan just gave up their A350s… 

All taken by Thai Airways, ITA Airways, Fiji Airways and Edelweiss Airlines of Lufthansa Group.

SAS just announced they are currently evaluating their long haul fleet to see if they will retain both A330-300ceo and A350-900. They currently have eight A330-300 and four A350-900, with another two more on order. Out of eight A330-300, five are under nine years old, the other three are 21 years old. They released two A350-900s during the bankruptcy proceeding. One went to China Airlines, one to Malaysia Airlines.

[JuliusWong 0]

4 hours ago, Riza said:

MH might looks to WY since they have retired all their 330s. 

Different engines, different MTOW etc, MH will be shedding its A330-300ceo soon, not sure if they want to further complicate the product offerings in the next few years. 

• MH's A330-300
• MH's A330-900
• MH's A350-900
• ex-SAS A350-900
• WY's A330-300
• AB's A330-200

Edited Wednesday at 11:27 AM by JuliusWong

[JuliusWong 0]

Malaysia Airlines's first six A330-900neo MSNs are now assigned and all six rear fuselage sections have now arrived at TLS for assembly.

1. MSN 2080 Malaysia AL
2. MSN 2084 Malaysia AL
3. MSN 2088 Malaysia AL
4. MSN 2092 Malaysia AL
5. MSN 2097 Malaysia AL
6. MSN 2099 Malaysia AL

Source: https://aviation.flights/aib/aircraft-list/A330

[flee 5]

15 hours ago, JuliusWong said:

Different engines, different MTOW etc, MH will be shedding its A330-300ceo soon, not sure if they want to further complicate the product offerings in the next few years. 

• MH's A330-300
• MH's A330-900
• MH's A350-900
• ex-SAS A350-900
• WY's A330-300
• AB's A330-200

It may not be a bad idea to replace the AB A332s with WY A333s. That will deliver the capacity boost that MH needs. Since factory fresh deliveries are very slow, they will need to work the fleet harder and not have them on the ground for so long.

[jahur 0]

52 minutes ago, flee said:

It may not be a bad idea to replace the AB A332s with WY A333s. That will deliver the capacity boost that MH needs. Since factory fresh deliveries are very slow, they will need to work the fleet harder and not have them on the ground for so long.

Doubt MH is willing to fiddle around a diff engine OEM. Only reason also the previous CEO took the 6 A332 were the lease rates were bottom barrel very cheap in cost on top of the PW4170 engines out of the box. Korean Air and Asiana are planning to offload some PW A333s this year end perhaps better to aim for those.

The delay in aircraft deliveries has also stunted FY's jet fleet cause it can't take any existing 737-800 from MH. It pretty much an airline flapping around with nothing to go at. Still 5 aircraft today from the original supposed 8 aircrafts. 

If the board and Khazanah were efficient to abrupt changes in the environment they would've already approved some funding from the net profit to secure second hand B737-800s out there instead of fully storing it in a piggybank. Instead we now have a company group that behaves an auntie in a road street market haggling at fruit stall sellers for unreasonable bargain when other people in the vicinity can just outright pay for it.

 

[Craig 0]

1 hour ago, jahur said:

Korean Air and Asiana are planning to offload some PW A333s this year end perhaps better to aim for those.

KE's 333 (either version) are fine; OZ's 333 on the other hand are not from a passenger perspective.

[flee 5]

The problem now is that A333s are in demand for P2F conversions. So lease rates will definitely not be cheap.

[JuliusWong 0]

38 minutes ago, flee said:

The problem now is that A333s are in demand for P2F conversions. So lease rates will definitely not be cheap.

Only those A333 with RR engines are in demand. They just started converting the first two GE-powered. PW-powered are s#1t, no one wants them as freighter. The freighter market softening, the trend will taper off soon. 

That being said, KE has 5 A33-300 [age 11-14 years old] and 20 A333 [15 which are very old (20-27 years old) and five younger A333s]

REG    SERIAL           AIRCRAFT TYPE        CONFIG          DELIVERED    REMARK            AGE  

HL8001    1556    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    29 Sep 2014        9.6 Years    

HL8002    1576    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    28 Nov 2014        9.5 Years    

HL8003    1590    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    22 Dec 2014        9.4 Years    

HL8025    1611    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    27 Mar 2015        9.2 Years    

HL8026    1638    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    24 Jun 2015        8.9 Years    

HL8027    1647    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    31 Aug 2015        8.7 Years    

For Business class, you get either one of these two: 

Economy is the same:

Asiana has 15 A330-300.

Business class:

Economy Class:

Edited Thursday at 07:01 AM by JuliusWong

[JonathanFong 0]

7 hours ago, JuliusWong said:

Only those A333 with RR engines are in demand. They just started converting the first two GE-powered. PW-powered are s#1t, no one wants them as freighter. The freighter market softening, the trend will taper off soon. 

That being said, KE has 5 A33-300 [age 11-14 years old] and 20 A333 [15 which are very old (20-27 years old) and five younger A333s]

REG    SERIAL           AIRCRAFT TYPE        CONFIG          DELIVERED    REMARK            AGE  

HL8001    1556    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    29 Sep 2014        9.6 Years    

HL8002    1576    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    28 Nov 2014        9.5 Years    

HL8003    1590    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    22 Dec 2014        9.4 Years    

HL8025    1611    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    27 Mar 2015        9.2 Years    

HL8026    1638    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    24 Jun 2015        8.9 Years    

HL8027    1647    Airbus A330-323    C24Y248    31 Aug 2015        8.7 Years    

For Business class, you get either one of these two: 

 

The Prestige Sleepers would work for shorter regional hops, but are outdated and a return to MH's older Business Class seats on the B744, B772 and current A333s, they are the same base model too if I'm not mistaken. The Prestige Suites would be great for the longer haul routings to SYD, MEL, DOH etc.