Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted September 19, 2012 Next one to arrive SZB will be PH-BFD (KLMasia livery)... Schedule in GMT: AMS 0920 KUL 2125-2215 SZB 2305 - this all 23sep12; add 1 day for local arrival day !!! Expected to depart in KLM livery after D-check...(all KLMasia to be removed from 744's) see also http://www.malaysian...ic=17330&st=600 post # 603 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted September 19, 2012 Caught on 14/09 at satellite building KLIA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted September 19, 2012 Next one to arrive SZB will be PH-BFD (KLMasia livery)... Schedule in GMT: AMS 0920 KUL 2125-2215 SZB 2305 - this all 23sep12; add 1 day for local arrival day !!! Uncle Pieter, Not only do you send the KLM birds off to work, you also send them for medical checkups too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted September 22, 2012 The Kuala Lumpur Air Traffic Control Centre reportedly went blind last week, suffering "total failure in the system with no radar, no radio frequencies", putting airborne planes and passengers at risk as there was no guidance from ground air traffic controllers. This was revealed by opposition party PKR today. Party leaders showed the press what they claimed are copies of the Department of Civil Aviation's (DCA) system log and interim report by the systems maintenance contractor on the alleged 2.50 am crisis on Sept 12. "In the aviation industry where safety is a zero defect matter, even a near miss like this is equivalent to a total disaster," PKR vice-president Tian Chua warned. He said this at a press conference in front of the Kuala Lumpur Air Traffic Control Centre in Subang, this morning. The incident report issued by the systems maintenance contractor blamed faulty and obsolete circuit breakers that tripped the entire system. The power failure rendered inoperable the air traffic center's radar system, which monitors aircraft in it's sector, as well as radio communications it used to issue instructions to the planes. The documents reported that the backup radar and radio systems also failed to come online and that the backup power and uninterruptable power supply (UPS) also failed. Incompetent technicians? According to the system log, overflight control for all aircraft in area controlled by the Kuala Lumpur Air Traffic Control Center had to be passed to the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) airforce base at Butterworth, while local departures were halted and inbound international traffic from nearby Changi, Don Mueng and Soekarno-Hatta international airports had to be refused for the one hour and fifteen minutes of the system failure. Former RMAF operations director Brigadier General (retired) Abdul Hadi Abdul Khattab, who was also at the press conference today, said that based on his experience with air traffic control systems, such an incident "is highly dangerous" as it puts planes under control of the air traffic control center at risk of in-air collisions and running out of fuel. He described that planes waiting to land in air traffic control zones are instructed to fly in a pre-defined circuit or "tracks" sometimes one after the other. Each track are then stacked one on top of the other with planes arranged on different altitudes or height. Such a delicate balance, he cautioned, must be orchestrated carefully by ground control to ensure the safety of all involved. He is also skeptical that the entirety of the critical system could be taken down by faulty wiring or circuit breakers. "Are their technicians so incompetent?" the former air force staff officer asked. The party is calling for answers from the DCA and the Transport Ministry on how such a near disaster could have taken place. "And now one of our biggest fears have come true with the total failure of the system that was only supposed to - according to the DCA - encounter minor glitches," lamented fellow party vice-president Nurul Izzah Anwar. 'Were contracts given to inadequate crony companies?' PKR wants the government and the DCA to answer: How could such a critical system not be coupled with reliable and redundancy backups. Why the main power, UPS and other backup power all failed at the same time. What will the Transport Ministry and the DCA do to prevent a recurrence of such serious mishaps. Another PKR vice-president, N Surendran (left) questioned if the failures were the result of technically incompetent crony companies being given contracts despite being inadequately qualified for the job. PKR had been attacking what they claimed was substandard air traffic control system being used by the DCA from direct award contracts, which they claimed benefits a crony company owned by the family of a minister-level federal official. Last week's alleged total system failure at the air traffic control facility underscored their fears and punctuated their claims. When contacted over the matter, DCA director-general Azharuddin Abdul Rahman reserved comments until he has looked into the incident and considered PKR's allegations. http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/209500 Civil Aviation Dept DG: We never lost control Hazlan Zakaria 5:03PM Sep 21, 2012 The Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) today denied losing control of planes at the Kuala Lumpur Air Traffic Control Centre sector after power failure rendered the centre's radar inoperable for over an hour last week. "We had a power failure due to problems with a circuit breaker and the radar was inoperative," admitted its director-general Azharuddin Abdul Rahman to Malaysiakini. He stressed that the problem was not with the air traffic control system per se but just a power outage. Azharuddin explained that when the circuit breaker tripped and power supply was cut off, no one noticed. Though the standby uninterruptable power supply (UPS) immediately came online to sustain it, the radar went offline after the UPS battery supply was exhausted. However, he denied earlier allegations by PKR this morning that the centre also lost all radio communications, explaining that while local frequencies used by its air traffic supervisors were down, they still were communicating with planes using the standby "guard" radio channel. "With the radar down, we used the procedural method (plotting airplane course and heading manually) and then issue instructions to the planes on what to do via the radio". ‘Control not handed to foreign centres’ He also denied the department handed control of airplanes over to foreign ground control, though he said that as per safety guidelines, the military ground control sector at the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) Butterworth air base, with its overlapping radar coverage, was informed to be on standby. Azharuddin said that during the over one hour incident at 2.50am on Sept 12, only three flights were directly affected. "One inbound flight we successfully landed, safely and on time. While the other two outgoing flights we had to delay," the DCA head said. The outbound flights, Azharuddin said, had to be delayed as they needed to allow more time between flights when they are using the procedural method to direct air traffic as they need to put more distance between flights for safety reasons. Azharuddin said that contingencies and backups were in place and they were very much in operation even without radar. He related that after they discovered the tripped circuit breaker the device was immediately reset and power came back online soon after, and the air traffic control system was back up and running again. http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/209537 Took them over one hour discover tripped circuit breaker and lucky that this happened at 2.50am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted September 22, 2012 Couldn't they have switched to Flight Radar 24 mode ?! Even simple setup at our office makes sure everyone knows of a power outage - imagine a few of those UPS gizmos bleeping away System at KL ATC must be so sophisticated that "no one noticed" - either that or someone was grossly negligent or ignorant or both Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted September 22, 2012 Hahaha, good one Mr. Tam! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naim 6 Report post Posted September 22, 2012 Mr Tam always in fine form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zamir 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Is 9M-XAC operating Hajj Flight with Saudi Arabian Airlines? e Edited September 22, 2012 by Zamir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Not sure about that, but XAC is currently on lease to them. So it may have been used for their Haj charters. Edited September 22, 2012 by flee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zamir 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) Never saw this plane visit KLIA before 0.0 how many Charter service working with Saudi Arabia Airlines for the Hajj Flights ? Edited September 24, 2012 by Zamir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIR 2 Report post Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) Never saw this plane visit KLIA before 0.0 how many Charter service working with Saudi Arabia Airlines for the Hajj Flights ? 24/09/12 Veteran Avia B742F (EK-74723) arr from Jeddah as SV 9961 - operating for Saudi Arabian Cargo Edited September 24, 2012 by MIR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaurieB 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) Air Asia Flt AK5286 KUL to KBR seems to be on the descent into Penang presently. Problems at KBR? Edited September 26, 2012 by LaurieB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naim 6 Report post Posted September 26, 2012 Air Asia Flt AK5286 KUL to KBR seems to be on the descent into Penang presently. Problems at KBR? Interesting, ain't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaurieB 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2012 Thanks Naim. I was trying to upload a screenshot as you posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted September 26, 2012 It detoured so close to KBR. So could it be that KBR's runway is not serviceable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaurieB 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2012 Looking at the metars, possibly a weather divert. http://www.aviador.es/Weather/Decoded_Metar/WMKC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naim 6 Report post Posted September 26, 2012 Thanks Naim. I was trying to upload a screenshot as you posted. No prob, LaurieB, maybe can locate relevant ATC transcript here: http://www.liveatc.net/archive.php?m=wmkk Looking at the metars, possibly a weather divert. http://www.aviador.e...oded_Metar/WMKC Weather at 1541h looks really bad. But why no detour to TGG? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaurieB 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2012 Good question Naim. Ak5334 KUL - LGK has been orbitting west of Penang for a while. Weather at LGK looks bad also although 5334 now seems to be out of the hold and heading for a landing there. AK5286 is now back in the air and heading towards KBR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted September 26, 2012 Weather at 1541h looks really bad. But why no detour to TGG? A wild guess, maybe they carried minimal fuel and TGG has no gas ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naim 6 Report post Posted September 29, 2012 WMSA3 been online last few days -- pretty good coverage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JingKai Seah 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2012 looks like there's a WMKN radar too.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted September 29, 2012 Yeap TGG has no gas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zamir 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) Yeap TGG has no gas How there going to refuel the 747 for Hajj Flight? Edited October 1, 2012 by Zamir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted October 2, 2012 My guess is they will take more fuel from their previous stop before landing at TGG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted October 2, 2012 I thought during Captain Nik's time they used to bus the fuel up to TGG just for the haj flights ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
