Naim 6 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 RMAF may get own aerobatics team 2009/12/06 LANGKAWI: Move over, Red Arrows. Watch out, Thunderbirds and Blue Angels. The flyboys of the Royal Malaysian Air Force will have their very own, dedicated aerobatics team if Defence Minister Datuk Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamidi has his way. Zahid said Lima 2011 may see the debut of the RMAF's own aerobatics team and the aircraft would be decked out to the hilt. "Hopefully, we will have our own team. I think the Pilatus PC-7 aircraft are perfect for this. "We have enough trainer aircraft to show their capabilities," he said. The pilots of the RMAF who have been flying aerobatics for all the Lima exhibitions are not dedicated aerobatics flyers. They are, in fact, combat pilots and trainers who train only once during Lima. Even the Taufan Ganas aerobatics team is not a real aerobatics team. They are made up of the 17th/19th Squadrons' pilots and MiG-29N Fulcrum aircraft. Despite not training much before the show, the pilots have put on a creditable show. In dedicated aerobatics teams, such as the Red Arrows, pilots train for complicated manoeuvres which require team work. http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/19aeron/Article/index_html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ignatius 4 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 Can or Not.. I prefer fighter planes being made aerobatic planes rather than trainers.. , they can use the hawks, make it a 6 aircraft aerobatic team.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naim 6 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 Can or Not.. I prefer fighter planes being made aerobatic planes rather than trainers.. , they can use the hawks, make it a 6 aircraft aerobatic team.. Or the new Aermacchis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ignatius 4 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 Or the saliva dripping Su30MKM.. and speaking about the name,, it would be interesting to know what name they'd come up with.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loh Wilson 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 Hope it does have a name starts with 1. 1Aerobatics team and Pilatus PC-7, no thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth K 3 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 erghh PC-7 can't compete with thunderbirds, blue angels, and red arrows. lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 I think this is just some filler for a slow day at LIMA. Remember Taming Sari PC7s? Whatever happened to that? TUDM had one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ignatius 4 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 (edited) We Malaysian really like to follow others .. want to do this and that.. and in the end.. we become 1Laughing stock.. whatla.. never learn Seriously.. if the name has anything to do with 1... I'll sue NAJIB Edited December 6, 2009 by Ignatius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nazreen Nazari 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 hehe..i've already setup my own RMAF Virtual Acrobatic Squadron long ago,lockon,fs9,fsx.. ..now recruiting for 3rd transport squad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan Kong 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 1Malaysia Aerobatics Team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 I don't think the SU-30 can be taken away from frontline duty. Cost per flying hour is also very high for jets. So the PC-7 is the only practical and affordable way for RMAF to have a aerobatic team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SC Chow 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 I bet it will be something start with 1 as said *staring at 1Malaysia F1 team* Hope it will looks somewhat like this Ignore the graphic, not MSFS afterall. Name it Stripes of Glory =D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loh Wilson 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 I bet it will be something start with 1 as said *staring at 1Malaysia F1 team* Hope it will looks somewhat like this Ignore the graphic, not MSFS afterall. Name it Stripes of Glory =D OH NO ! My eyes !! I wonder is there any "special colour" for fighter planes ? Please leave the paint alone We'll see in LIMA 2011, words from the politicians, you know lahhh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ignatius 4 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 The hawk is still better than the PC-seben. PC-7 is too slowmo like the Roulettes of AUstralia.. yawn. boring. imagine being flown by our fighter pilots.. even greater yawnss.. not trying to be negative here, but we can't hide the facts that we are not very good at following other peoples footstep. And stop the 1Maggot thingy hahaha.. it's really is a 1Laughing stock matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samuel Chy 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2009 (edited) The hawk is still better than the PC-seben. PC-7 is too slowmo like the Roulettes of AUstralia.. yawn. boring. imagine being flown by our fighter pilots.. even greater yawnss.. not trying to be negative here, but we can't hide the facts that we are not very good at following other peoples footstep. And stop the 1Maggot thingy hahaha.. it's really is a 1Laughing stock matter. we can actually press the button "FF". hehe... hopefully the 1acro will motivate me back to Lima11. Edited December 6, 2009 by Samuel Chy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Maybe can use the F-5 Tigers. Then we can go and see Tiger show @ LIMA 2011. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahmad M 1 Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Why don't they just try doing something totally different and maybe wacky by using their transports ( C130 or maybe the old Caribou's) for the aerobatic team. Maybe even a helicopter aerobatic team, that'll be something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamizi Hj Tamby 1 Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Hmm,Who knows if the MB339CD is also used for the acrobatic team,besides than the Pilatus PC-7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aiman 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Why don't they just try doing something totally different and maybe wacky by using their transports ( C130 or maybe the old Caribou's) for the aerobatic team. I'm with you..example is Fat Albert from Blue Angels (c130) ok la..but not caribou la we can name it GOMOK(fatso) Northrop F-5 also an agile aircraft that represent a good reputation during early supersonic jet aged (80's) besides that the aircraft figure is more like keris (ancient Malay weapon) and should deserve title "Taming Sari" rather than the platypus pc-7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Why don't they just try doing something totally different and maybe wacky by using their transports ( C130 or maybe the old Caribou's) for the aerobatic team The C130's at a stretch of one's imagination, but then don't expect any too spectacular manoeuvres I would imagine the cost of bringing the Caribou's back to mere flying condition is well beyond our RMAF's budgetary limitations, what more having then structurally reinforced for aerobatic duties Good to see some thoughts outside the box thought Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SC Chow 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2009 but F-5 seems kidda..... Americanish.... Singaporish.... Still prefer Eastern stuff, Mig-29 will do for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ignatius 4 Report post Posted December 7, 2009 YOu guys forgotten about the CN235.. sleek babe.. they'd do a nice aerobatic transport plane as well haha.. We have insufficient F5 to run one team.. so my best preferrence is still the hawks.. , platypus 7??? no thanks... no kick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Sorry but I only have bad memory of Russian made aircraft acrobatic team. On a few occasions, including one of the previous LIMA, the planes crashed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SC Chow 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2009 but there is good example though, Russian Knight? Swift? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ignatius 4 Report post Posted December 7, 2009 the russians planes crashed not because the plane is not good.. it is the pilot who over did it, flying it to the limit or pilot error. Russian planes are ok.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites