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Firefly suspend flights to Singapore

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#21 Mohd Suhaimi Fariz

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 10:44 AM

Maybe Singapore can consider the IGS system a la Kai Tak for Seletar?


#22 Radzi

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 07:47 AM

Maybe Singapore can consider the IGS system a la Kai Tak for Seletar?



No need for IGS, can use the RNP-AR instead. For those who can't use the RNP-AR, there is always the visual approach option.


Unfortunately, the problem with the ILS glideslope is real, considering that the glideslope height is 1000 ft for every nautical mile. At 5 nm (8 km) the height of the descending aircraft is only 1500 ft, not including the buffer zone. Too low for any future highrise development in Pasir Gudang.

#23 Mike P

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 11:39 AM

Luckily we have a smart Transportation Minister, Kudos for saying no to SG!

#24 Robert

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 05:24 PM

This is getting more ridiculous


#25 flee

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 10:02 AM

How the Malaysia-Singapore tiff is hurting Firefly



#26 Juergen Witte

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 01:44 PM

How the Malaysia-Singapore tiff is hurting Firefly



In that report is mentioned that Izham is exploring options to re-establish flights between Subang and Singapore "be it to Seletar or Changi".

Could that hint to FY getting regional jets in order to circumvent the prop ban @ Changi ?

I understand regulations @ Subang would have to be changed as well ...

Maybe that would only be a last resort if all other talks with Singapore fail. :glare:

#27 Robert

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 10:49 PM

CAAM should have approved it and the longer term issues over height etc could have been discussed it over the coming months or years. 


Looks like the CAAM/govt has shot itself in the foot

#28 David.W

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Posted 31 March 2019 - 04:16 PM

KUALA LUMPUR: An official announcement will be made soon to decide whether Firefly will resume its services to Singapore, says Transport Minister Anthony Loke.

"The official announcement will be made soon.


"We are still finalising the details. We hope they can resume their services soon," he told reporters at the official launch of Xtra20 KTM discount card here Sunday (March 31).

It was reported earlier that the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) said Firefly had suspended all its flights to Singapore as it had yet to receive approval from the Civil Aviation Authority of Malaysia (CAAM) to operate at Seletar Airport.

A CAAS spokesman said it had informed the Malaysian Transport Ministry and Firefly back in 2014 of the relocation of turboprop flights from Changi Airport to Seletar Airport, and the airline had agreed to relocate.

Firely, a subsidiary of Malaysia Airlines, said its services would resume once the relevant authorities sorted out regulatory issues regarding its move to Seletar.

On a separate matter, Loke gave his commitment that the government was willing to amend current laws to allow people with special disabilities (OKU) to apply for Public Service Vehicle (PSV) licences so that they could register for and provide e-hailing services.

 "There are some issues with OKU drivers. They need to understand that current regulations do not allow them to apply for PSV license.

"But I have given my commitment to the OKU community, as well as e-hailing companies, that the government will amend the regulations to enable them to provide their services.

"My message to the OKU community is that we support their right to be e-hailing drivers so they can work and get an income, so there is no issue of not allowing them.

"That will be sorted out soon," he said.

On the KTM card, he said the government had allocated a total of RM34mil for the Xtra20 discount card aimed at giving an additional 20% discount for Malaysians who use the cashless transaction system at commuter stations.

"We target that there will be a 20% increase in commuters this year, which is about 90,000 users daily to 108,000.

"This will be followed by another 20% in 2020 to achieve the target of 130,000 people daily," he said.

Loke said following a review of KTM ticket costs in the Klang Valley of between 11 sen to 15 sen per km in 2016 by the previous government, the number of users dropped from 50 million a year to 41 million users in 2017.

"In 2017, it continued to dip to 37 million users a year and dropped down to 32 million users annually last year," he said.

Read more at https://www.thestar....wUxLw1d2QpvL.99

#29 flee

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Posted 06 April 2019 - 01:26 PM

Malaysia, Singapore end airspace dispute, allow Firefly to use Seletar

KUALA LUMPUR, April 6 The Firefly airline may now fly from Singapores Seletar airport after Malaysia and the republic struck an agreement to end the airspace dispute between both countries.

Transport Minister Anthony Loke and his Singapore counterpart, Khaw Boon Wan, issued a joint statement today saying the agreement was also enforced just before midnight yesterday.


#30 Juergen Witte

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Posted 06 April 2019 - 01:57 PM

Thanks for the update.


But ...

I don´t think this can be a long term solution since that means no ILS at all.

Firefly and possible other potential airlines certainly want a high level of reliabilty for their OPS.

So, another solution needs to be found.

It should be possible to install just a single direction ILS that approaches from the opposite direction.


So, I don´t see an issue aside from an approach over limited housing areas in Singapore - or is there a hill obstructing approach from that side ?

Edited by Juergen Witte, 06 April 2019 - 01:58 PM.

#31 jahur

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Posted 06 April 2019 - 03:02 PM

Visibility below 5km is a no go for approach very much like how Mulu flights by maswings. Departure sequence that requires a steep turn is very performance demanding an event of single engine occurring dun think the ATR could perform. So a payload restriction will likely be enforce. Not sure if fares will hike with this.

Edited by jahur, 06 April 2019 - 03:03 PM.

#32 xtemujin

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 03:01 PM

Firefly to resume flights to Singapore from April 21

Monday, 8 Apr 2019

7:08 PM MYT



Edited by xtemujin, 09 April 2019 - 03:02 PM.

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