Indonesia holds Malaysian plane for intrusion

[Radzi 2]

From Malaysian Insider.

 

A Malaysian chartered aircraft carrying 81 passengers and crew was reportedly detained by the Indonesian Armed Forces at the Djuanda International Airport in Surabaya yesterday afternoon for allegedly entering Indonesian air space without permission.

 

The Kompas.com news portal quoted Indonesian military spokesman First Admiral Iskandar Sitompul as saying that the BAE 146-200 aircraft left Dili, Timor Leste, and landed at the airport at 12.45pm yesterday.

 

BaE-146? Which Malaysian company operates BaE-146?

[LeeTZ 1]

From Malaysian Insider.

 

 

 

BaE-146? Which Malaysian company operates BaE-146?

 

Capt Radzi, is't the one discussed in Malaka Spotting thread? Heritage

[Azri 0]

Capt Radzi, is't the one discussed in Malaka Spotting thread? Heritage

 

 

Heritage indeed.

Edited December 15, 2010 by Azri

[Lock SH 0]

Yupp, Heritage ...

 

Read it in KOSMO today (15 Dec), together with the picture.

 

Not a good start huh ........

 

 

[Tamizi Hj Tamby 1]

Yup,it had been discussed in MKZ spotting thread as well.

 

Any further info about the leased BAe 146-200?

[KK Lee 5]

According to Kompas, the flight was carrying members of the Malacca government, a cabinet minister and “Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak's son”.

 

The unnamed minister and premier's son, plus four others, were however allowed to fly out of Surabaya on a commercial airliner.

 

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/newscommentaries/36698-malaysian-charter-flight-with-81-passengers-detained-in-surabaya-

[Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2]

Is this a legitimate detention, or are they trying to provoke us? I just can't understand why Malaysia-Indonesia relations are so testy.

[KK Lee 5]

Is this a legitimate detention, or are they trying to provoke us? I just can't understand why Malaysia-Indonesia relations are so testy.

 

Malaysian aircraft without transit permit held at Juanda

The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | Wed, 12/15/2010 11:19 AM | National

 

 

Indonesia's Foreign Ministry confirms that a chartered plane from Malaysia was held for hours at the Juanda International airport in Surabaya, East Java, due to its failure to produce a transit permit.

 

“I've checked the information and have found the plane does not have a transit permit. That's why have we held it,” the ministry's director-general for protocol and consular affairs, Lutfi Rauf, was quoted by tribunnews.com as saying Tuesday evening.

 

The BAE 146-200 flight was carrying passengers including high-ranking officials from the Malaysian government and royalty.

 

The aircraft departed from Malaka heading to Dili, Timor Leste, before flying back to Malaka.

 

"For transit purposes, any aircraft has to pocket at least two permits: One to fly, another to transit. But, it only has a permit to fly past Indonesia's territory,” he said.

 

Lutfi said his office had informed the Malaysian Embassy in Jakarta on the case.

 

"The [Malaysian flight agent] admitted it had failed to arrange a transit permit,” Lutfi said.

 

The plane was held in Juanda from 5 p.m. to 9:30 p.m.

 

The Indonesian government later released it after the Foreign Ministry contacted the Indonesian Air Force to help produce the transit permit for the aircraft.

 

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/12/15/malaysian-aircraft-without-transit-permit-held-juanda.html

 

 

 

Anxious time for passengers in detained flight from Timor Leste

 

PETALING JAYA: It was an anxious wait for passengers aboard a Malaysian chartered plane which was briefly detained by the Indonesian authorities at the airport in Surabaya on Tuesday.

 

The 86 passengers aboard the BAE 146-200 aircraft had included Malacca Chief Minister Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam, his wife, senior state officials and Malaysian businessmen.

 

The aircraft was chartered from Heritage Wings by the Malacca state government on a three-day investment trip to Timor Leste.

 

Star (M) Publications Bhd associate editor M. Veera Pandiyan said the plane had landed at the Djuanda International Airport in Surabaya at around 2pm (Indonesian time) after leaving two hours earlier from Dili, Timor Leste.

 

"We landed in Surabaya for refueling, which were supposed to take about 20 minutes.

 

"But after that, we got delayed. We were told that this was due to documentation problems. After about an hour, we were told we could proceed to the lounge where we were asked to hand over our passports.

 

"However, after a few hours, I knew something was wrong. At around 7pm, the officials decided to call Wisma Putra," he said here on Wednesday.

 

Veera said when he spoke to the captain, who is Filipino, he was told that the ground handling for the aircraft had been handled by another company.

 

"He told me that although we had permission to land in Surabaya, there was no permission for us to take off. This was supposed to have been sorted out by the company and that in his six years of flying in Indonesia, he has never encountered such problems," he said.

 

Veera said two officials - Malacca Tourism General Manager Datuk Zulkifli Mohamad and Yayasan Melaka General Manager Datuk Sharabuddin Kudus - kept the passsengers briefed about the developments as they contacted Wisma Putra.

 

"By 10pm, we were told that we could take off. But it was only around midnight that we finally flew off. We did not know the plane have been detained until we saw barricades around the aircraft as we approached the aircraft in a bus," he said.

 

The barricades were later removed by soldiers.

 

Veera said passengers - except one who sustained some injuries when she fell while exiting the aircraft earlier - were treated well by the Indonesian authorities and they were given food by the state officials.

 

He said the plane landed safely at the Batu Berendam airport in Malacca at around 2.25am in the morning (local time).

 

Veera said Mohd Ali and his wife, who had left Surabaya on an earlier flight, came to see the passengers when they landed in order to ensure their well-being.

 

Bernama had quoted the Kompas.com news portal in which Indonesian military spokesman First Admiral Iskandar Sitompul confirmed the detention.

 

The report said that the aircraft had been given permission to enter Indonesian air space, but the agent for the flight failed to secure landing rights.

 

However, despite the detention, the investment mission was successful with 17 MOUs signed between Malaysian businessmen and members of Timor Leste's fledgling Chambers of Commerce.

 

The sectors involved were oil and gas, information technology, construction, infrastructure development, plantations, commodities, fisheries and marine transportation.

 

Members of the delegation also met Timor Leste President Ramos Horta.

 

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/12/15/nation/20101215104647&sec=nation

[Ikman Ikreza 0]

According to statement Malacca Chief Minister DS Mohd Ali Rustam, miscommunication is a main factor the BAE 146-200 aircraft detained by the Indonesian Armed Forces.

 

Masalah komunikasi punca pesawat KM Melaka ditahan

 

Masalah komunikasi dan peraturan semasa mengisi minyak dipercayai menjadi punca pesawat khas jenis BAE 146-200 yang membawa 80 penumpang termasuk Ketua Menteri Melaka Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam ditahan di Lapangan Terbang Juanda, Surabaya, Indonesia petang Selasa.

 

Beliau berkata pesawat itu ditahan kerana ada penumpang turun ke landasan sambil menghisap rokok sewaktu pesawat yang disewa dari Heritage Air berkenaan berhenti untuk mengisi bahan bakar.

 

"Tentera Nasional Indonesia (TNI) yang melihat keadaan itu telah bertindak untuk memeriksa semua penumpang di lapangan terbang itu dan juga memeriksa sama ada pesawat itu dibenarkan untuk berhenti di lapangan terbang berkenaan," katanya kepada pemberita selepas Majlis Perasmian Kilang AUO Sunpower Corporation oleh Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Najib Razak di Alor Gajah, semalam.

 

Beliau berkata demikian ketika diminta mengulas penahanan pesawat itu yang membawa rombongan kerajaan negeri Melaka yang menuju ke Lapangan Terbang Antarabangsa Melaka (LTAM) di Batu Berendam.

 

Pesawat itu dalam penerbangan pulang dari Dili, Timur Leste dan ditahan pada kira-kira 2 petang waktu Indonesia sebelum dibenarkan berlepas ke Melaka pada pukul 11 malam dan tiba di LTAM di Alor Gajah pada pukul 2.15 pagi.

 

Enam penumpang pesawat itu termasuk Mohd Ali, isterinya Datin Seri Asmah Abdul Rahman dan pengawal peribadi kepada Ketua Menteri dibenarkan pulang ke Malaysia dengan menaiki pesawat Malaysia Airlines (MAS).

 

" Saya terpaksa menaiki pesawat MAS untuk berlepas awal kerana perlu melihat persediaan tapak kerana Najib melakukan lawatan ke Melaka hari ini," katanya yang sempat "menyambut" ketibaan pesawat yang ditahan itu di LTAM.

 

Mohd Ali dan rombongan terdiri daripada pegawai kerajaan Melaka dan ahli perniagaan serta empat wartawan tempatan telah berlepas ke Dili pada Ahad lalu dalam misi meneroka peluang pelaburan ke negara bekas jajahan Portugal dan Indonesia itu.

 

Dalam lawatan itu, Mohd Ali yang sempat mengadakan pertemuan dengan Presiden Timur Leste, Ramos Horta dan sebanyak 17 perjanjian persefahaman (MoU) dalam pelbagai bidang termasuk minyak dan gas, teknologi maklumat dan pembinaan.

 

Menurut Mohd Ali pesawat itu sewaktu penerbangan ke Dili turut berhenti untuk mengisi minyak tetapi penumpang tidak turun ke landasan kerana hujan ketika itu.

 

Beliau berkata sewaktu insiden pesawat itu ditahan, kapten pesawat memberitahu telah menerima kebenaran untuk mengisi bahan bakar di lapangan terbang itu.

 

"Saya akan meminta Heritage Air untuk memaklumkan perkara sebenar berhubung insiden itu dan turut meminta Duta kita di Indonesia menyediakan laporan peraturan mengisi bahan bakar sewaktu dalam perjalanan," katanya.

 

Setiausaha Akhbar kepada Mohd Ali, Daud Awang, salah seorang penumpang yang ditahan, ketika ditemui pemberita berkata beliau tidak berasa cemas ketika pesawat itu ditahan oleh TNI.

 

" Kami telah dilayan dengan baik malahan dibenarkan untuk membeli-belah di sekitar lapangan terbang sewaktu kapten pesawat "berurusan" dengan pihak di sana untuk kebenaran berlepas ke Melaka," katanya yang juga wartawan kepada akhbar harian kerajaan negeri Melaka, " Melaka Hari Ini".

 

Menurutnya, berdasarkan pengalaman, gangguan teknikal berhubung penahanan pesawat itu boleh diatasi sekiranya permintaan dan peraturan pihak berkuasa Indonesia itu dipenuhi dengan semangat kerjasama.

 

Beliau bersyukur pesawat itu akhirnya dibenarkan berlepas dan selamat mendarat di LTAM tanpa insiden yang tidak diingini berlaku.

 

- Bernama

[MIR 2]

Any further info about the leased BAe 146-200?

 

Here's an article in Bahasa Malaysia(charter rate,future destinations etc.)regarding the leased Bae 146. CLICK HERE

[Radzi 2]

 

 

Beliau berkata demikian ketika diminta mengulas penahanan pesawat itu yang membawa rombongan kerajaan negeri Melaka yang menuju ke Lapangan Terbang Antarabangsa Melaka (LTAM) di Batu Berendam.

 

Pesawat itu dalam penerbangan pulang dari Dili, Timur Leste dan ditahan pada kira-kira 2 petang waktu Indonesia sebelum dibenarkan berlepas ke Melaka pada pukul 11 malam dan tiba di LTAM di Alor Gajah pada pukul 2.15 pagi.

 

 

So, Malacca Airport is in Batu Berendam or Alor Gajah?

Edited December 19, 2010 by Radzi

[Ahmad M 1]

Maybe from Alor Gajah to Batu Berendam, Huge airport...

[Ikman Ikreza 0]

So, Malacca Airport is in Batu Berendam or Alor Gajah?

 

I think typing error by Bernama

[Aaron Goh 1]

someone forgot to file in the paperwork perhaps?

[Nik H. 3]

Cheap not good, good not cheap.

 

We lost this Charter due price. We have been carrying UN Troops to Dili from KL numerous times with no problems, transiting Juanda for a fuel stop. we also carried Philippines Troops with full weaponry to Dili from Manila with no problems when transiting Ujung Pandang.

[Radzi 2]

Cheap not good, good not cheap.

 

We lost this Charter due price. We have been carrying UN Troops to Dili from KL numerous times with no problems, transiting Juanda for a fuel stop. we also carried Philippines Troops with full weaponry to Dili from Manila with no problems when transiting Ujung Pandang.

 

 

Let them be. With that sort of service, how long can they stay afloat?

[Waiping 12]

someone forgot to file in the paperwork perhaps?

 

Cheap not good, good not cheap.

 

We lost this Charter due price. We have been carrying UN Troops to Dili from KL numerous times with no problems, transiting Juanda for a fuel stop. we also carried Philippines Troops with full weaponry to Dili from Manila with no problems when transiting Ujung Pandang.

 

Maybe filing for papers requires extra charges...

[Naim 6]

Cheap not good, good not cheap.

 

We lost this Charter due price. We have been carrying UN Troops to Dili from KL numerous times with no problems, transiting Juanda for a fuel stop. we also carried Philippines Troops with full weaponry to Dili from Manila with no problems when transiting Ujung Pandang.

 

alirustam needs to keep his airport 'international'. so he'll keep chartering planes to go overseas.

[michgyver 0]

Kejadian memalukan oleh peserta rombongan yang menaiki pesawat khas jenis BAE 146-200 yang membawa 80 penumpang termasuk Ketua Menteri Melaka, Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam ditahan di Lapangan Terbang Juanda, Surabaya, Indonesia petang Selasa.

 

Menurut berita yang disiarkan pesawat itu ditahan kerana ada penumpang turun ke landasan sambil menghisap rokok sewaktu pesawat yang disewa dari Heritage Air berkenaan berhenti untuk mengisi bahan bakar.

 

Itulah tahap dan displin yang ditunjukkan oleh orang yang ada pendidikan. Atau mungkinkah rombongan yang dibawa oleh Ali Rustam adalah orang Melaka yang tidak ada pendidikan dan tidak tahu peraturan menaiki kapal terbang.

 

Macamlah kebiasaan yang kita lihat bila ada sahaja bas ekspres yang berhenti ramai yang ambil peluang hisap rokok di samping ada yang ramai bergegas ke tandas dengan hajat masing.

 

Tidak tahulah pula rombongan Ali Rustam ini, adakah mereka rasa naik kapal terbang macam naik bas?

 

Untunglah kapal terbang itu tidak meletup kerana dan saya ucapkan tahniah kepada penguasa di Lapangan Terbang Juanda, Surabaya yang bertindak cepat.

 

kalau tidak dengan lapangan terbang sekali meletup akibat tidak berdisplinnya rombongan yang dibawa oleh Ali Rustam.

 

Tidakan tegas Tentera Nasional Indonesia (TNI) yang melihat keadaan itu memeriksa semua penumpang di lapangan terbang itu amatlah saya sokong.

 

Rombongan kerajaan negeri Melaka itu sedang menuju ke Lapangan Terbang Antarabangsa Melaka (LTAM) di Batu Berendam.

 

Pesawat itu dalam penerbangan pulang dari Dili, Timur Leste dan ditahan pada kira-kira 2 petang waktu Indonesia sebelum dibenarkan berlepas ke Melaka pada pukul 11 malam dan tiba di LTAM di Alor Gajah pada pukul 2.15 pagi.

 

Namun begitu, enam penumpang pesawat itu termasuk Mohd Ali, isterinya Datin Seri Asmah Abdul Rahman dan pengawal peribadi kepada Ketua Menteri dibenarkan pulang ke Malaysia dengan menaiki pesawat Malaysia Airlines (MAS).

 

Inilah tahap moral pemimpin Umno selepas 50 tahun lebih kita merdeka, peraturan naik kapal terbang pun tidak tahu atau kalau tahupun nak tunjuk lagak dan dia yang besar dan ada kuasa.

 

Sepatutnya bagi saya hukuman kepada mereka yang hisap rokok dalam kejadian ini lebih keras kerana ia mengundang risiko keselamatan yang sangat serius.

[Lock SH 0]

Too many 'chiefs' onboard and less 'coolies' to do the job perhaps ....