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berjaya air seems get less spotlight than other airline such as firefly. Kinda like no ambition also. Are there any news about them? And how was berjaya's seat-filling to koh samui after FY enter the route?

Last time they ordered ATR-72 to replace the Dash 7, but any runway of tioman, pangkor, and redang has length of less then 1000 meter, even pangkor has only 792 m (according to wiki). fyi, ATR take off run is 1290 m.

SO, is berjaya doing okay right now? What if firefly enter their route (tioman, etc), will berjaya strong enough to compete(with those expensive fares)? :mellow:

Lets discuss :) ..

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They are many family branches involving in Berjaya, they are known to be good at acquiring new business and franchise but expanding existing business is not their priority.

 

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Not much info about Berjaya Air,but they are the 3rd airline to operate ATRs in Malaysia (after Firefly and MASwings).

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Berjaya Air usually bring passengers who also stay in their hotels. Sort of a package thing. Went with Berjaya to Redang on the atr last year. Seats almost full and hotel was good.

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Berjaya Air usually bring passengers who also stay in their hotels. Sort of a package thing. Went with Berjaya to Redang on the atr last year. Seats almost full and hotel was good.

hmm,, redang runway is less than 1000m while ATR need 1290 for takeoff. full seats even more, its weird

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hmm,, redang runway is less than 1000m while ATR need 1290 for takeoff. full seats even more, its weird

 

Maybe the ATR could T/o with less than 1000m.....STOL style

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Interesting boys! Would love to hear more about ATR 72... :rolleyes:

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Well, I was already wondering for some time how much use there is for Berjaya´s ATR´s ... :blink:

 

The only viable route I can see is SZB - Koh Samui due to insufficient runway length at their other destinations.

Wonder why they never ordered ATR 42-500/600 instead of the "big boys" !

Would´ve made much more sense ... :excl:

 

According to their schedule the Dash-7´s are still pretty active - no mentionning of ATR´s in their schedules yet - :rolleyes:

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for your info,redang airport was briefly closed for runway expansion and reopening on april 16 2009.i guess that atr72-500 can landed there after the expansion.btw, this is my first post here in malaysianwings.

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for your info,redang airport was briefly closed for runway expansion and reopening on april 16 2009.i guess that atr72-500 can landed there after the expansion.btw, this is my first post here in malaysianwings.

 

Ok, but what about Tioman ???

In my opinion still a no-go for the ATR 72 ... :nea:

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Came back to SZB from SIN last week and saw an ATR-72 leaving for Redang so I can confirm that they are in use.

 

Looks like Pangkor flights have been stopped:-

 

http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/new-straits-times/mi_8016/is_20100427/berjaya-air-suspend-pangkor-flights/ai_n53314929/

 

Berjaya Air to suspend Pangkor flights

BERJAYA Air Sdn Bhd will make a last return flight to Pangkor on Sunday, ending a decade of its air services to the island.

 

While two major hotels are expecting minimal impact from this move, the fate of the Pangkor Island airport remains uncertain.

 

"Owing to commercial reasons, we wish to announce that with effect from May 3 2010 Berjaya Air services into/out of Pangkor Island will be suspended until further notice," Berjaya Air website said.

 

It is the only airline with a scheduled five times weekly flight from Subang. The Ipoh Flying Club uses the airport periodically.

 

Berjaya Air flights operations manager Datuk Captain Zainal Mat Zain said the suspension was due to the increased frequency of flight delays and cancellations, as only the 48-seater Dash 7 can land in Pangkor.

 

Berjaya Air now has two ATRs and three Dash 7s. However, one Dash 7 is under scheduled maintenance, while the other two Dash 7s also fly into Pulau Tioman and Pulau Redang as well as into Koh Samui in Thailand.

 

Moreover, the Subang-Pangkor route is not a profitable one as its load factor is only 30 per cent.

 

Nevertheless, Berjaya Air is willing to recommence flights should the runway be extended.

 

"We are prepared to come back to Pangkor in the future if the runway is extended as we will be replacing our Dash 7s with ATRs," Zainal told Business Times.

 

According to Zainal, three years down the road, Berjaya Air's aircraft maintenance will get more difficult as Bombardier is no longer producing the spare parts.

 

"Spare parts for the Dash 7 are really scarce," he added.

 

When contacted regarding Berjaya Air's flight suspension, Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) group managing director Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad said: "MAHB will discuss with the Ministry of Transport on the future of Pangkor Airport. It would be our intention to keep the airport open for flights."

 

Bashir said that MAHB would discuss with the government if it should reduce the staff strength at the airport when Berjaya suspends the flights.

 

On plans of a possible extension of the runway, Bashir said that there are no such plans currently and that it would be up to the government to do so.

 

Meanwhile, YTL-owned Pangkor Laut Resort and IGB Corp Bhd-owned four-star Pangkor Island Beach Resort expects little impact from the move.

 

Pangkor Laut resort manager Jeff Mong said that only 4 per cent to 5 per cent of its guests now use Berjaya Air.

 

"The impact will be small, as we have good road systems with a wide network that connects to Lumut," he added.

 

A call to Pangkor Laut reservation revealed that the hotel is offering to take guests from Kuala Lumpur to Lumut in a Naza that will cost about RM500 per car one way. Passengers will then have to take the ferry to the island.

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Well, it seems Berjaya´s ATR´s get more places to fly if runways at the small islands are extended.

 

Just at Tioman I wonder if and how they would extend the runway ...

I don´t see many possibilities. This airport is particularly difficult because - bigger - aircraft can only land from the ocean and depart towards the ocean as on the other side of the airport are high hills in close proximity.

 

So, I´m waiting to see what´s happening when Berjaya phase out the Dash-7 fleet ! :rolleyes:

Edited by Juergen Witte

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in year 2004/2005, berjaya air revealed their plan to fly to kerteh and kuala terengganu.i dont know whether they still interested to fly to these 2 cities.

Very doubtful because Firefly already serves these two airports.

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It was detailed today in the SG Straits Times that Berjaya Air will be moving to the SIN Budget Terminal from November this. One of the main drivers for this is that approx 40% of the ex SIN traffic are connecting pax.

 

Another point mentioned is that Berjaya have submitted the paperwork to start SZB to SIN flights.

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Berjaya Air's ATR 72 (9M-TAQ) arrived Cairns from Darwin on 11 August 2010. Rumored that it will be there for quite some time. Last March, 9M-TAQ flew to Port Moresby via Denpasar & Darwin...reportedly it was evaluated by Airlines PNG.

Edited by MIR

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im just finished my ojt in berjaya air last 2months ago ;)

 

IMHO, I think berjaya quiet well today, even firefly charted their ATR, they do profit on it.

about it destination, i think it just for fulfil their hotel ;)

 

futhermore, they already start their flight to somewhere in aus, but its more like cargo or something like that, not for pax ;)

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One of Berjaya Air's ATR 72 is on lease to Airlines PNG for a minimum two year period. Was informed that 9M-TAQ departed Cairns to Lihir Island this morning as CG 701.

 

MEDIA RELEASE – 17th AUGUST 2010 - AIRLINES PNG EXPANDS FLEET & COMMENCES ATR OPERATION FOR LIHIR GOLD

 

Airlines PNG announced today an expansion to its fleet with a state-of-the art ATR 72-500 aircraft which later this week will commence charter operations for Lihir Gold Limited (Lihir Gold), one of PNG’s leading resource companies.

 

The ATR aircraft has been acquired on wet lease from Malaysian carrier Berjaya Air Bdn Shd (Berjaya Air) for a minimum two year period and will eventually operate with Airlines PNG flight crew who have undergone extensive training on this new aircraft type.

 

“In a Papua New Guinea first, the ATR 72-500 will operate charter flights exclusively for Lihir Gold ferrying staff and freight between Cairns and its mine site on Lihir Island in the New Ireland province of Papua New Guinea,” said an Airlines PNG spokesman.

 

Source: Airlines PNG

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Sunday December 9, 2007

Berjaya Air wants to fly to Kerteh and Langkawi

 

LANGKAWI: Berjaya Air Sdn Bhd hopes to extend its services to Kerteh, Terengganu, and Langkawi with the purchase of four ATR72-500 aircraft worth RM248mil.

 

Berjaya Land Berhad chairman Datuk Razman Md Hashim said Berjaya Air would also increase its flights to Koh Samui in Thailand with the new aircraft.

 

“We hope to take delivery of the first aircraft by March 2009,” he said at a contract signing ceremony between Berjaya and French company Avions De Transport Regional (ATR) at the Lima 2007 aerospace exhibition hall yesterday.Berjaya Air now flies to Tioman, Pulau Redang and Koh Samui.

 

“The new 72-seater turboprop aircraft will enable us to provide more available seats compared to our current fleet of 48-seater aircraft.

 

“They can help us reduce our operational costs by about 40%,” he said.

 

At a separate function, Sarawak-based private air services company, Hornbill Skyways Sdn Bhd took delivery of its third EC135P2 multipurpose helicopter for the year from Eurocopter Malaysia Sdn Bhd

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Berjaya Air plans to expand its airline operations to the Philippines. I think Berjaya should strengthen its network in Malaysia FIRST before venturing into other countries. For an airline that was formed 22-23 years ago, their network and fleet are pretty pathetic don't you think?

 

 

Malaysian conglomerate to expand ventures in Philippines

 

Malaysian conglomerate Berjaya Group is looking at airline operations, infrastructure and more property and retail businesses in the Philippines as part of its ongoing expansion in the country.

“We are looking for more businesses,” said Francis Lee, Berjaya director, at the sidelines of the announcement of Berjaya’s distributorship in the Philippines of Mazda vehicles where the group has budgeted $20 million.

Berjaya is currently into gaming and hotel business in the Philippines.

Lee said Berjaya Air sees prospects for joint venture with local airlines including flag carrier Philippine Airlines to code share and mount passenger and cargo flights from Kuala Lumpur to Manila or Cebu, non-stop.

Lee said there is more room in the airline business in the Philippines given the good prospects of tourism.

Another Malaysian airline, Air Asia, is now operating in the country.

“Ours is a full license in Malaysia and we can do cargo as well. We have four planes flying to our own resort in Malaysia.

If there is a market, like Cebu, we can fly direct to ferry passengers out on a few days of holiday, or go for a joint venture with PAL to fly to anywhere, Manila to Kuala Lumpur and code-share. There’s a lot of possibilities,” Lee said.

He said the company has not discussed any of these plans with any Filipino airline.

Lee said Berjaya is also looking for joint ventures for the development of hotels that can be managed by four- to five-star brands like Four Seasons and Ritz-Carlton. Lee said Berjaya is now looking at two properties in Manila.

“Land is very expensive in the Philippines. As soon as land becomes available, we are ready anytime,” said Lee.

Lee said Berjaya is also looking at resorts development given its expertise in this segment of the property sector but did not give details.

Berjaya has one hotel in the country, located in Makati.

In infrastructure, Lee said Berjaya can also offer its expertise in environment-friendly landfill development as well as in water projects.

Lee said Berjaya is poised to bring back Cosway, a chain of stores selling consumer/household items in the Philippines under an innovative multi-level marketing concept.

Known as eCosway in Malaysia and a big hit in Hong Kong, the concept has caught on in 35 countries.

Unlike direct selling and franchise, Cosway operates company-owned stores -– either as a stall in a department store or stand-alone store

-- but is managed independently by members.

Cosway shoulders the costs of operations and stocks and the member only needs to pay a small deposit for managing the store and gets share on the margins.

Berjaya also plans to expand its Papa John’s chain of pizza restaurants to 100 stores within a 10-year period that started two years ago.

It now has 13 branches in the country.

The Berjaya Group has been operating in the Philippines for 18 years, and currently has 800 employees engaged in food and beverage, hotels, gaming and lottery management businesses.

The Malaysian company is partner of billionaire Andrew Tan in the gaming business.

In 2013, it would handle the distribution of Mazda vehicles in the country.

 

SOURCE: http://www.malaya.com.ph/index.php/business/business-news/13031-malaysian-conglomerate-to-expand-ventures-in-ph

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Well, I think it´s not such a bad idea ...

On the domestic market Berjaya won´t be able to seriously compete against AK/MH/FY so the idea to go international makes sense.

 

Be aware also that if they want to fly to the Philippines they will face harsh competition but there´s room for them if they stay outside of their competitors focus markets (mainly Manila and partly Clark that is).

If Berjaya Air start KUL-CEB first (remember that MH pulled out of CEB a while ago and no direct competition is left there actually) and maybe KUL-DVO (Davao) they might "get a grip".

This requires other aircraft than the current AT7 (forget the DH7 ...) - preferably regional jets - although the size of the AT7 would be just right.

MASwings is talking about opening a Borneo - Philippines link for too long now and nothing has happened so far.

That might be another opportunity for a start ...

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The only business model that Berjaya Group excelled at is franchise. They own few franchise (e.g. 7-11, Starbucks etc.) and it grows. Property development, car manufacturing and distribution, resorts and leisure, are all so-so only. And their airline is pretty pathetic, like Reezal said, it's been more than 20 years operating but no serious effort to grow? It's really a lost opportunity, they can pool funds to run an airline and grow to compete with Air Asia and Malaysia airlines but chose not to do it. For aviation enthusiast like us, it's quite a shame isn't it?

 

Just look how Berjaya Times Square, such premium location, but they failed big time to capitalise on that. U mobile venture also barely surviving.

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