Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted November 28, 2005 Guys, On 25nov05 PH-BFA arrived late, due to aforementioned weather (gale-force winds), from Toronto...the same evening she departed 1.30 hours late "for technical reasons" (my personal opinion: gale-damage)...KLM decided NOT to cancel the flight, but operate without the winglet; after arriving back to AMS on 27nov, she left again for YYZ without the winglet and returned back at the base this morning at 0730am, afterwhich she was towed into Hangar 11 (I guess for attachment of winglet again)...scheduled to operate KL0691/29nov to YYZ again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted November 28, 2005 So the incident happened in Canada? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted November 28, 2005 Nope, it happened in NL on 25nov05 during the gale-force winds, however, KLM opted to operate her without winglet on KL0809/25-26nov and KL0810/26-27nov + KL0691/27nov-KL0692/28nov...she's now in the Hangar and is scheduled to depart again on 29nov for another YYZ flight... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted November 28, 2005 Thanks for the info, Pieter!! Must have been a heavy storm at the Netherlands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted November 28, 2005 See my "highlights" section for 25nov05 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted November 28, 2005 pieter, cheers for the information! by the way, did the winglet actually detach during flight or was it damaged and then removed by your colleagues in the hangar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted November 28, 2005 Azahan, It was removed in the hangar prior to departure for KUL, hence the 1.5 delay ex AMS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted November 28, 2005 oO so that means its damaged in flight, then removed in AMS. Whats gale wind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted November 28, 2005 "mini tornado" but lasting for 6-12 hours (gusts up to 60 knots...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted November 28, 2005 Wow, thats scary ! Thanks Pieter for the explanation I learnt another new thing today! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibrahim 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2005 "mini tornado" but lasting for 6-12 hours (gusts up to 60 knots...) 17696[/snapback] Waoooooo.. Real World Better than Simulator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted November 29, 2005 As Radzi would say, S V Logic .. 17533[/snapback] Sorry, but I don't think this one has got anything to do with the Work Minister. Right Mr Samy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted November 30, 2005 Guys, PH-BFA, again, passing through KLIA today 30nov05, so you can (re)-check the winglets, 1 or 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicholas Wan 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2005 Pieter , one more question whats that round thing towards the end of the upper deck 17444[/snapback] I think is a transmiter, works auto(when detect some g force) during a crash, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicholas Wan 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2005 "mini tornado" but lasting for 6-12 hours (gusts up to 60 knots...) 17696[/snapback] pieter will the pax vomit in the plane..i am sure is not going to be a smooth flight without a winglet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2005 Looks weird! Superman..faster..pulangkan nya !( return it ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted November 30, 2005 [Winglet doesn't really improve stability of the flight I believe , its just there to save some fuel and there's a rather complicated way of explaining how , but for now , take my word for it It will reduce induced-drag, so less fuel-consumption, to put it simple... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 And the rest of the shots from 26 / 11 TK's pins on his bag They sent RK instead of RC . Yahoo ! Jonathan ah , The Aircraft behind you la ! CX Latest addition to the MasKargo Fleet Another one The queen that will never be forgotten Hello Malaysian NG The Flying Pencil Another queen My transaero didn't turn out well . Light was rather bad . Maybe JKSC or TK will post their photo's . Working people , must give them TIME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 one week ago , me and fendy were feeling bored after lunch and decided to go to KLIA just to 'chill out' just took some of these photos , sorry about quality .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imran K. 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 Nice shots... Waa...you drove all the way to KUL to "chill out" ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 Fendy drove to KLIA I tagged along Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 talk about commited photographers. Awesome pictures, i like how you call A345 the flying pencil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 Walter , thats the A346 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaity 1 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 Gavin, nice photos and showing the different traffic on that day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 Walter , thats the A346 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
