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#21 Waiping

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:45 AM

I would've never expected that , from an airline pilot .

Would you have preferred the following ?

We are having a problem with Pack #2 , we started the APU , but we're unable to engage the APU bleed for some reason , cross bleed isn't working out for us either . Technically speaking we can fly with one pack , ble bla bla abla bla ... Why would passengers need to know this?

Next time on your airline flight , quote the FCOM , the MEL , and everything lah , as to why you wanna divert !


I would be even more blur. Oh my God! We're gonna crash. Everyone, crash position! :P

#22 S V Choong

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:53 AM

Smart decision on behalf of the tech crew not to divulge everything and cause unnecessary panic in the cabin.

:good: As long as the pilot did everything correct and landed the plane safely, what else do you need to know about?

I am not a pilot and if I know it was caused by the malfunctioning of the air conditioning, I am happy enough with this reasoning. I won't want to know what Airbus page of Airbus procedure they followed which is deemed too much info. for me. Flexing the pilot muscles won't work and people won't give you a reason JUST because of that. As a pilot, I believe you have to observe and maintain the professional manner and responsibility, which including a respect to your peers (other pilots). After all they were the ones who made sure everyone, incl. yourself, were safe and sound.

I hope you get a response from Air Asia, if not, don't be surprised or upset. :D

Edited by S V Choong, 26 August 2009 - 09:56 AM.

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#23 Adrian T

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 12:11 AM

Sigh...it's a good thing the likes of him do not represent all pilots, geez...

Hey Jan, if you're reading this, chill out man....it's nothing personal.

#24 Nik H.

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 06:05 AM

:good: As long as the pilot did everything correct and landed the plane safely, what else do you need to know about?

I am not a pilot and if I know it was caused by the malfunctioning of the air conditioning, I am happy enough with this reasoning. I won't want to know what Airbus page of Airbus procedure they followed which is deemed too much info. for me. Flexing the pilot muscles won't work and people won't give you a reason JUST because of that. As a pilot, I believe you have to observe and maintain the professional manner and responsibility, which including a respect to your peers (other pilots). After all they were the ones who made sure everyone, incl. yourself, were safe and sound.

I hope you get a response from Air Asia, if not, don't be surprised or upset. :D


Well said SV.

#25 leon t

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:14 PM

one thing is that Air Asia have been very good at keeping any news reports on its aircraft incidents even in the past. However in this instance, its still unknown whether it is really indeed an air-condtioning problem that resulted in this diversion to KUL instead of proceeding to SIN; or is it a Depressurisation problem - as a loss of pressurisation would be considered a fairly serious incident.

one thing is that Air Asia have been very good at keeping any news reports on its aircraft incidents even in the past. However in this instance, its still unknown whether it is really indeed an air-condtioning problem that resulted in this diversion to KUL instead of proceeding to SIN; or is it a Depressurisation problem - as a loss of pressurisation would be considered a fairly serious incident.

#26 Kader

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 04:05 PM

Hi guys, this is an interesting post.. Im just curious on a few more facts, anyone can theorize more?

Btw, i am in no way trying to make anyone offended.. cheerses





This is what happened from a passenger's point of view. This is the letter I sent to AirAsia

Dear Sir, Madam,

I was with my family on board AK5342 on the 17th of august from Langkawi to Singapore. The complaint I have is about the lack of information from the cockpitcrew about the things that happened during this flight. After taxi out we were standing near the runway at Langkawi for at least 20 minutes. Then the captain informed the passengers that due to airport congestion we still had to wait another 10 minutes. This was somewhat difficult to believe. We were not the only ones thinking that this was not true. Shortly after reaching cruising altitude the aircraft started to descent again with speedbrakes. All the way to low altitude, I suppose 10.000 ft. By this time I told my wife we were going to divert, the captain informed the passengers a few minutes later that due to a technical problem we had to divert to Kuala Lumpur. He mentioned nothing about what kind of failure, to me it was clear that it was a pressurization problem. Later the temperature in the cabin became hot, we heard the airconditioning surge a few times. During the further descent to the airport of KL we felt more than normal pressure on the ears, it was clear that the pressurization of the aircraft was no longer working. During taxi after landing the first officer apologized for the inconvenience of the diversion and the airconditioning problems.

Please inform me about the real problems of this flight, as the captain was not telling the whole story. We were not the only ones who had big question marks. It even crossed my mind that the cockpit crew was very busy before departure trying to solve a problem but I will not accuse anybody of something which I cannot prove. But the lack of information makes me think so. A failure or problem can happen. A diversion is inconvenient but so be it. But I like to be taken seriously as a passenger, I have a right to. For your information I know what I am talking about, I am an airline-pilot myself.


1. The only reason people complain to you is?.....a. u declare who u are b.u thought u are doing PR for AA c. u are filling the complaint form?

2. Are you familiar with WMKL? maybe your airline is a Flying school or not MAS or AA and also maybe your airline is Based in SG..

3. As "WE" is always used.. Who else might be so curious? Assuming that the explanation is given will the info be shared?

Thanks for reading :)

#27 Naim

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 09:25 PM

Something relevant here. :)

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"We wouldn't tell you right away if there's an emergency."

The FAA leaves it up to the airline to decide if it wants to tell passengers about an engine failure or other significant crisis. And many flight crews opt to keep their lips sealed.

The reason? Flight crews don't want to scare passengers or say something they'll regret later.

"In one recent emergency, the cockpit crew was faulted for making a public announcement before some of the required procedures were accomplished," explains Kent Wien, a pilot for a U.S. carrier.

So attendants tend to err on the side of being secretive to avoid trouble.

Last June, passengers traveling from Brussels to Newark on Continental Airlines were not informed when the captain died during the flight. The plane continued along its scheduled route with nary a peep from the rest of the crew, beyond a cryptic question: "Is there a doctor on board?"

http://www.msnbc.msn...ns/travel-tips/

#28 Adrian T

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 12:24 AM

Hi guys, this is an interesting post.. Im just curious on a few more facts, anyone can theorize more?

Btw, i am in no way trying to make anyone offended.. cheerses







1. The only reason people complain to you is?.....a. u declare who u are b.u thought u are doing PR for AA c. u are filling the complaint form?

2. Are you familiar with WMKL? maybe your airline is a Flying school or not MAS or AA and also maybe your airline is Based in SG..

3. As "WE" is always used.. Who else might be so curious? Assuming that the explanation is given will the info be shared?

Thanks for reading :)


Kader, good luck in getting a reply. Jan's gone for good... :D

#29 Kader

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 08:04 AM

opss.. bo-lak..(no luck)
nvrmind.. im not curious anymore. :)




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