KK Lee 5 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 then i dream of 777 night stop in Kota Bharu...never happen. Guess KBR is your home town? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keno Omar 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) Got this pic from another thread. Copyright Rozhan. I wonder how they draw up this map... are these plans for real?! Looks like MH is seeking to operate hub and spoke strategy via new hubs in LAX, EWR, GRU, EZE, JNB, MRU, NBO, THR, TAS, SVO/DME, NRT, The Gulf, China, India. To achieve a global network on this magnitude without being in an alliance will not be easy to say the least! Edited February 24, 2008 by Keno Omar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izanee 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 MAS and their hub and spoke strategy. They proudly proclaim this slogan to all Malaysians as though we are stupid. Hub and spoke strategies are nothing new. Look at QF, BA and EK. Doing it on a much smaller scale will not help MAS to bring the passengers in. Lets hope they don't sell anymore LHR slots. I suppose they can sell off the 14 slots, get some hard cash and then operate to LGW instead. Are they testing the waters now with their seasonal flights??? I wonder.... hmmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Got this pic from another thread. Copyright Rozhan. This is spin and misleading! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) I can't but help be impressed with the (purported) intensity of Malaysian Hospitality on offer over at the US of A !! More impressive than the very extensive trans-pacific and trans-atlantic services - really beyond expectation/imagination ! ..... I suppose they can sell off the 14 slots, get some hard cash and then operate to LGW instead. Are they testing the waters now with their seasonal flights??? I wonder.... hmmmThat should go some way in ensuring BTP2 financial KPI success, at least for a couple of years ? Scary when one thinks about it - and it can happen too, before one is aware ! Edited February 25, 2008 by BC Tam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Guys, don't be deceived by the picture. That route map is inclusive of codeshare, INTERLINE/SPA and freight destinations. You can get one from Going Places February 2008 issue. Yes, I agree it's quite misleading. I never see any route map from any carrier in the world that includes its INTERLINE/SPA destinations. Aren't any legacy airline like MH has interline agreement with almost all carriers in the world? Of course lah the route map will look impressive like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 When one is an empty vessel.... MH likes to pretend what it's not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Michael Report post Posted February 25, 2008 I reckon Idris Jala knows MAS better than what we do now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 I wonder how they draw up this map... are these plans for real?! Looks like MH is seeking to operate hub and spoke strategy via new hubs in LAX, EWR, GRU, EZE, JNB, MRU, NBO, THR, TAS, SVO/DME, NRT, The Gulf, China, India. To achieve a global network on this magnitude without being in an alliance will not be easy to say the least! MAS and their hub and spoke strategy. They proudly proclaim this slogan to all Malaysians as though we are stupid. Hub and spoke strategies are nothing new. Look at QF, BA and EK. Doing it on a much smaller scale will not help MAS to bring the passengers in. This is spin and misleading! I can't but help be impressed with the (purported) intensity of Malaysian Hospitality on offer over at the US of A !! More impressive than the very extensive trans-pacific and trans-atlantic services - really beyond expectation/imagination ! When one is an empty vessel.... MH likes to pretend what it's not. Guys, don't be deceived by the picture. That route map is inclusive of codeshare, INTERLINE/SPA and freight destinations. You can get one from Going Places February 2008 issue. Yes, I agree it's quite misleading. I never see any route map from any carrier in the world that includes its INTERLINE/SPA destinations. Aren't any legacy airline like MH has interline agreement with almost all carriers in the world? Of course lah the route map will look impressive like that. The 'accused' (of being misleading) route map. Quite a number of mistakes on MH's current route too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 I reckon Idris Jala knows MAS better than what we do now. Nope. There is at least one member here who has worked his way up the ranks in MAS over the last few decades, both as flying member and at management level. He would know the ins and outs of MAS better I reckon ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Nope. There is at least one member here who has worked his way up the ranks in MAS over the last few decades, both as flying member and at management level. He would know the ins and outs of MAS better I reckon ! Concur with you. But we must admit IJ&co do know better how to achieve their KPI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izanee 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 agree with you guys....one member here knows MAS more than IJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keno Omar 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 This is spin and misleading! I've never come across airlines that show routes of interlining partners. Alliance partners are different. This is pure spin! Berjaya Air has interlining agreement with VS (according to their website). Imagine their tiny route network superimposed on VS global network, see how ridiculous that sounds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenneth T 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Someone should do a coverage on the MATTA Fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izanee 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 hahaha... it is pure spin and nothing more. we should just combine more carriers route network to show how MAS flies to every destination in the world. how embarassing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessnor Arif 1 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Yes, I agree it's quite misleading. I never see any route map from any carrier in the world that includes its INTERLINE/SPA destinations. Aren't any legacy airline like MH has interline agreement with almost all carriers in the world? Of course lah the route map will look impressive like that. Well Azizul. I've seen it in NWA inflight Magazine. They show all Skyteam carrier destinations and I think they includes its interline destinations cause it shows MH routes too. Edited February 25, 2008 by Jessnor Arif Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izanee 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 yeah...well........NWA is in SkyTeam. SQ is in Star. MAS is in its own alliance with no partners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 MH also interlines with SQ & EK, so MH could (kalau tak malu) also include SQ's and EK's routes to make the route map even more super-duper impressive to the uninitiated. Opps...it had already done that with EK...how tak malu. And of all interline partners, MH chooses the likes of Biman! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 MH is a virtual airline, doesn’t own its plane and now MH has joined or formed the virtual alliance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rozhan 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Is MAS advertising for other airlines in its own inflight magazine, with all those logos? That's nice of MAS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Michael Report post Posted February 26, 2008 I reckon it is oh can I see u in April? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izanee 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Rozhan...it is aimed at 'Friends of MAS' - so that we can choose what other airlines to fly on! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan Soh 3 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 Guys, don't be deceived by the picture. That route map is inclusive of codeshare, INTERLINE/SPA and freight destinations. You can get one from Going Places February 2008 issue. Yes, I agree it's quite misleading. I never see any route map from any carrier in the world that includes its INTERLINE/SPA destinations. Aren't any legacy airline like MH has interline agreement with almost all carriers in the world? Of course lah the route map will look impressive like that. Actually, NWA and United also have maps of similar nature in their magazine. Actually is you observe properly, the network of MAS, Garuda and Korean Air is all meshed into the already crowded network of lines criss crossing each other on NWA's magazine. Airlines like AA, America West, US Air etc prefer to show ALL their destinations represented by a dot on the map without joining them up with lines, once again, including the destinations of their partners. The 'accused' (of being misleading) route map. Quite a number of mistakes on MH's current route too. What are the mistakes? I am curious... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izanee 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 the virtual alliance sounds nice. lets hope the passengers don't get too clever and realise they are being cheated! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rozhan 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 What are the mistakes? I am curious... I see 'Domectic'.....! Izanee, those logos remind me to book tickets at MATTA Fair in March soon I'm sure SQ and TG will delight me with their inflight products and services. My last trip to Bangkok on TG's B777, I was served food on fine china. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites