Malaysia Airlines may join Skyteam

[Andrew Ong 1]

Malaysia Airlines may want to join Skyteam in 2008 or 2009. There had benn talk that Malaysia Airlines is going to join an alliance. One reason is because they are trying to recover from a large loss of money: RM$1.26 billion (2005). Two is that Malaysia Airlines agreed with Air France-KLM Royal Dutch Airlines on upgrading codeshares with them from regular to an alliance in 2006.

 

 

Sources:

 

http://www.luchtzak.be/article11231.html

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyteam

 

 

 

[Saiful Bahari 0]

this should go to General Aviation forum la...

[Nasser 0]

Parking at wrong gate

[Andrew Ong 1]

I apologize on put this subject on the wrong catagory

[Chan CS 0]

Well, why they still have to wait until 2008 or 2009 to join? Any idea?

[Seth K 3]

Well, why they still have to wait until 2008 or 2009 to join? Any idea?

Why not

[Andrew Yong 0]

I apologize on put this subject on the wrong catagory

Here is General Aviation already !!! U are in correct forum corner!!!!!Thanks for bring in the useful and latest infomation !!!

Edited September 24, 2006 by Andrew Yong

[Seth K 3]

Here discussion related to MH & Skyteam for reference. Hope this thread will give a more updates on Skyteam and MH

 

MALAYSIA PRESS: MAS Seeks Entry Into SkyTeam Group

Edited September 24, 2006 by Seth K

[Isaac 0]

Yeah, why they have to wait till 2008/2009 ????

[Guest Fendy]

joining an alliance is not something that happens overnight. theres lots of discussions and procedures that need to be done, not to mention membership fees...

[Pieter C. 5]

joining an alliance is not something that happens overnight. theres lots of discussions and procedures that need to be done, not to mention membership fees...

 

Exactly !!! That's why it's rumoured China Southern's entry has been delayed to early 2008

[Keith T 2]

joining an alliance is not something that happens overnight. theres lots of discussions and procedures that need to be done, not to mention membership fees...

 

A huge part of the joining process actually centre on negotiations as to interlining/codesharing agreements, as well as synchronisation of flight schedules. The other major aspect is the upgrading of the new member's reservation systems to synchronise them with the existing members, so that they can 'talk' to each other and do things like issue interlined tickets and recognise intra-alliance FFP status. Sometimes the existing members also need to upgrade their systems (like what the addition of JL, MA and RJ to oneworld has prompted), an often costly exercise and one of the reasons why EI decided to opt out of oneworld altogether!

[Fitri Shukri 0]

joining an alliance is not something that happens overnight. theres lots of discussions and procedures that need to be done, not to mention membership fees...

 

...and MH have been talking with SkyTeam for years...

[Seth K 3]

...and MH have been talking with SkyTeam for years...

Thought Mr Jala met AF(ST) early this year?????

[Tony 1]

Thought Mr Jala met AF(ST) early this year?????

That's just ONE member of a TEAM.

[Pieter C. 5]

Guys,

 

Look what I found on A.net, posted today by a very reliable (KLM) source:

 

I don't think that Air France is still as opposed to MH's eventual accession to Skyteam as the airline used to be. Sure enough, the Qantas deal is not very conducive towards accommodating MH and its extensive Australia network, yet the QF/AF deal seems to be beneficial for both parties involved, so why give it up.

 

Come winter, MH will for the first time operate daily frequencies to AF's CDG homebase, and it is a sure thing that MH could not have gotten their hands on the final two frequencies without a nod of approval from Air France. Let's not forget that no longer than 2 years ago MH were unsuccessfully struggling to add to the three weekly frequencies they had been operating for years. Now we are at daily frequencies, which might not seem a big deal, but which actually is a very big deal if one considers the notorious stingyness of the French government when it comes to giving out the rights.

 

I believe the the inclusion of MH in Skyteam is as good as a done deal and this can only be beneficial for both MH and the Skyteam Alliance as a whole. The alliance is in dire need of a partner in Southeast Asia and, as it goes, there are not many options left.

 

Now, we've to wait for an 'official' announcement...

 

[Andrew Ong 1]

Since MH is going through problems the members of Skyteam (AM, KL, AF and KE, CO, etc.) can help.

 

Member of Skyteam (Current and Future members):

 

Current Members (including regional subsidaries)

 

* Russia Aeroflot

* Mexico Aeroméxico+

o Mexico AeroLitoral

* France Netherlands Air France - KLM+

o Netherlands KLM Asia (KLM)

o Netherlands KLM Cityhopper (KLM)

o France Régional (Air France)

* Italy Alitalia [5]

o Italy Alitalia Express

* United States Continental Airlines

o United States Continental Connection

+ United States Cape Air

+ United States Colgan Air

+ United States CommutAir

+ United States Gulfstream International Airlines

+ United States RegionsAir

o United States Continental Express

+ United States ExpressJet Airlines

o Guam Continental Micronesia

* Czech Republic Czech Airlines

* United States Delta Air Lines+

o United States Delta Connection

+ United States American Eagle

+ United States Atlantic Southeast Airlines

+ United States Chautauqua Airlines

+ United States Comair

+ United States Freedom Airlines

+ United States Shuttle America

+ United States SkyWest

o United States Delta Shuttle

* South Korea Korean Air+

* United States Northwest Airlines

o United States Northwest Airlink

+ United States Mesaba Airlines

+ United States Pinnacle Airlines

 

Future Members

 

 

Full members

 

* People's Republic of China China Southern Airlines [11] signed a Memorandum of Understanding on August 28, 2004, being the first mainland Chinese airline to do so. An official agreement was announced on June 28, 2006. [12] Expected to be complete in 2007.[13]

 

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Associate members

 

* Spain Air Europa (sponsored by Air France)

* Panama COPA (sponsored by Continental Airlines)

* Kenya Kenya Airways (sponsored by KLM)

* Romania TAROM (sponsored by Alitalia)

* Lebanon Middle East Airlines (sponsored by Air France)

* Portugal Portugalia (sponsored by Air France)

 

Potential future members

 

Note that there is much speculation about non-aligned airlines joining one of the global alliances. The list below only includes airlines that have expressed their desire to join SkyTeam or are in negotiations to do so.

 

* Serbia Jat Airways - recently launched a campaign to join the alliance.

* Malaysia Malaysia Airlines - the airline reached an agreement with Air France-KLM to upgrade their code-sharing agreement into an alliance in 2006. No timeframe has been given for MAS joining the alliance, but the company's restructuring plan puts this no later than 2008-2009.

 

 

Came from:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyTeam

Edited October 19, 2006 by Andrew Ong

[Sandeep G 1]

This is indeed a very good observation.

 

As to how the skyteam members may help, well, just imagine the doors skyteam will open for MAS.

 

In terms of them offering their advice, i think that would be limited to perhaps general off-the-record chit chat between the top brass of all the airlines.