Liau 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 http://www.airliners.net/open.file/895363/M/ Is it possible to do such an extreme climb? If yes, under what circumstances? BTW, where to take this kind of shots from runway 14L? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H Azmal 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 Whoa, AoA must be approaching the stall angle! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan Kong 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 I had seen B757 doing the same kind of climb... not B744 though. Maybe the aircraft carries the pilots only? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TW Teo 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 Whoa... 30 degree climb? Likely to be a ferry/test flight... and the guys in front decided to have some fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S Chang 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 looks like it's doing Best Angle Climbing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liau 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 Whoa, AoA must be approaching the stall angle! 4540[/snapback] Ya, y wont the aircraft stall? Does it hv enough power to gain altitude? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 With an empty aircraft (KUL-SZB maybe?) it is possible. The only mistake in that photo is the commentary: it is not 14L but 14R instead, standing from somewhere near the fuel farm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imran K. 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 Maybe Alex was standing near the Traffic Lights? With a long lens..im sure you can get a similar shot from there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 same spot where Azahan took his desert shots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 http://www.airliners.net/open.file/501439/L/ i smell bullshit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H Azmal 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 What kind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 eh just a thought. at take off from 14R with the plane perceived to be lightweight, it should have rotated way before hangar. meaning the aircraft should be at higher position at the spot where the picture was taken. similarly, if the plane were deemed to be heavier, yes it would have rotated somewhere parrallel to hangar or slightly beyond that, whereby, the result in terms of position and height above runway, would be as appeared in the shot. but no way a heavy aircraft like 747 could rocket like that . we have been spotting around weather centre many times and i personally find it hard to believe a 747 would have performed that way at that position. yes it is able to rocket like that when it is light. but assuming such light 747 takes off from charlie one, it would have rocketed earlier.....way before the hangar. well this is just my theory. yes i may be wrong. anybody please feel free to respond to my comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fendy Report post Posted August 8, 2005 http://www.airliners.net/discussions/gener...d.main/2260797/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 the discussion forum in a.net regarding the topic lacks one thing i suppose. though i agree to many of their comments regarding the texture and quality of picture after further assesments via adobe or other photo software, however, i am of the opinion that none is familiar with general positioning of aircraft during rotation at klia. it is going to be very interesting should we dwell further on our dicussion regarding the image. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fendy Report post Posted August 8, 2005 true azahan. that rotation is awfully late, as you pointed out, that building is already at the threshold of 32L, so either he used the entire length, or he took another entrance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted August 8, 2005 744 so brave to use Charlie 2 departure ? Woooo . If thats the case then it might be possible But what bothers me is , we have spot at KUL so often but we see this next to never ( with the exception of empty or light Maskargo 742's ) . But if you look at his other shots , you would notice that all of it has the same characteristics , which is , very steep climb , and the background , is plain . Nothing is around his aircraft He's got many of these extreme climbs . Go view his photo's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 really aaaa gavin?? the gentleman must be a lucky guy then............ i feel like taking a leisurely drive soon outside the perimeter of 14R/32L. then i may have a better perspective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Idham 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 eh just a thought. at take off from 14R with the plane perceived to be lightweight, it should have rotated way before hangar. meaning the aircraft should be at higher position at the spot where the picture was taken. similarly, if the plane were deemed to be heavier, yes it would have rotated somewhere parrallel to hangar or slightly beyond that, whereby, the result in terms of position and height above runway, would be as appeared in the shot. but no way a heavy aircraft like 747 could rocket like that . we have been spotting around weather centre many times and i personally find it hard to believe a 747 would have performed that way at that position. yes it is able to rocket like that when it is light. but assuming such light 747 takes off from charlie one, it would have rocketed earlier.....way before the hangar. well this is just my theory. yes i may be wrong. anybody please feel free to respond to my comments. The aircraft seems to be very low, the angle more than 30degrees.. if like you said, early rotation and climbing, maybe it is high in the sky already., but it is very low compare to the angle.. must be very low in weight..very very light flight.. and, manage to go for rotation speed 200++ kts.. maybe.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsentsan 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 One thing abt this guy, he's really desperate for hits. He does this sort of thing, then puts on the forum such a question.... And uses multiple nicks on A.net... I do believe we all know that Sepang = Alex Kueh = Y.A Kueh. right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsentsan 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 BTW, does this in anyway look a little realistic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Idham 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 Aiyoo guys, tell the truth one la, is it a bullshit pic?? Why he could do that ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liau 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 BTW, does this in anyway look a little realistic? 4645[/snapback] Haha .. That is too extreme la .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 agreed to tsentsan and idham. forget about quality coz image is of great quality! and congrats that it garners so many hits in a.net. but i still find it hard to believe until i see the raw image. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 i still think its a bunch of bullshit ! hate people like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted August 9, 2005 ok ok ok may be someone is happy that we prolong our discussion. may be it is planned that way. so i am not going to waste my time and energy to comment about the picture after this reply. what i can say is 1. quality of image is good! no doubt its a.net quality and should be "accepted without warnings". 2. if it were true the 744 did rocket like that AT THAT PARTICULAR SPOT, the photographer was a very lucky guy indeed for having such event in front of his eyes. and i take my hat off for such good quality image. and he deserves thousands of hits in a.net. 3. if it were a fake picture where the photographer did some extraordinary magic at home before uploading, it would be a grave insult to me as an avid aviation enthusiast! and i abhor those jokers!! 4. is it real or fake? i believe it only if i see the raw image which,technically, is impossible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites