S V Choong 4 Report post Posted August 26, 2016 http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2016/07/26/china-eastern-flight-smoke/ Apparently it happened a lot and as usual they won't admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danny Yc Leong 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2016 it depends on the captain. when i used to work at an airport in london, it is commonly known that pilots smoke in the cockpit while the aircraft is on the tarmac but not while it is in the air. my friend said that sometimes he has to go landside to smoke and sometimes he could just smoke in the cockpit. when the captain lights up his ciggie in the cockpit, that's the green light i guess ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newitt 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 Happens in Malaysia too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 Wow guys, really!? So there is this video on the net that this arrogant Yankee who want to confront the pilots smoking and got the crew around to check it. Of course the crew would not dare to challenge the pilot (not culturally Chinese anyway). So what happens if say in mid air, pax file a complaint. Does the captain have to listen to the pax or can he do whatever he likes? Is there a company policy amongst airlines against pilot smoking in the cockpit? What would be the consequences if they are caught or a complaint is filed against them by a pax? https://youtu.be/ScdidQIkry0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2016 Have done a lot of MH flights when I could detect the smell of somebody smoking. Have always wondered if I'm mistaken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) Airline banned smoking to reduce cleaning, filters replacement cost. As long as safety is not compromise, there is no big deal for pilot to smoke in the cockpit. Edited August 28, 2016 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amirul Mazlan 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2016 B737 have ashtrays on both side of the cockpit (capt and fo) so it is perfectly safe to smoke in the cockpit. Its just airline policy to make the world smaller for smokers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zamim 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2016 Airline banned smoking to reduce cleaning, filters replacement cost. As long as safety is not compromise, there is no big deal for pilot to smoke in the cockpit. It's not about "safety is not compromise" but about rules and regulations and the integrity of the pilots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted August 30, 2016 It's not about "safety is not compromise" but about rules and regulations and the integrity of the pilots. How smoking compromise pilot's integrity? Non smoking applied to pax doesn't mean in cockpit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted August 30, 2016 How smoking compromise pilot's integrity? Non smoking applied to pax doesn't mean in cockpit. If they can't obey simple laws do you think they can easily obey more stringent laws? It's like in Malaysia - some people don't obey simple traffic rule then when caught these same people have no qualms about giving a little "inducement" to escape paying the summons. And then scream and shout about other people being corrupt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) If they can't obey simple laws do you think they can easily obey more stringent laws? It's like in Malaysia - some people don't obey simple traffic rule then when caught these same people have no qualms about giving a little "inducement" to escape paying the summons. And then scream and shout about other people being corrupt. LOS ANGELES, March 9— Smoke-free air in the cabin of an airliner may be better for the health of passengers, but Federal officials have determined that it is safer to let the pilots keep smoking. In an effort to avoid withdrawal symptoms that could affect the performance of cigarette-smoking pilots, a Federal ban on cigarettes that took effect on all airlines last month made an exception for flight crews. All but unnoticed in the publicity over the new law was wording applying the ban to the passenger cabin and toilets, but not to the flight deck. The exception, reported Friday in The Washington Post, was based on a 1978 study by the National Institutes of Health finding that possible withdrawal symptoms would pose a potential risk to the pilots' performance, said Dr. Andrew Horne, an official of the Federal Aviation Administration's Office of Aviation medicine. ''The effects of withdrawal in a habitual smoker are associated with decrements in vigilance, in concentration, and with increased irritability, anxiety and aggression,'' Dr. Horne quoted the report as saying. http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/10/us/ban-on-smoking-in-airliners-doesn-t-apply-to-the-cockpit.html EU-OPS 1.335 Smoking on board The pilot-in-command shall not allow smoking on board: (a) whenever considered necessary in the interest of safety; during refuelling of the aircraft; © while the aircraft is on the surface unless the operator has determined procedures to mitigate the risks during ground operations; (d) outside designated smoking areas, in the aisle(s) and lavatory(ies); (e) in cargo compartments and/or other areas where cargo is carried that is not stored in flame-resistant containers or covered by flame-resistant canvas; and (f) in those areas of the passenger compartments where oxygen is being supplied. It seems EASA doesn't prohibit pilot to smoke in cockpit. Is CAAC prohibit smoking in cockpit? Edited August 31, 2016 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lcpteck 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) Have done a lot of MH flights when I could detect the smell of somebody smoking. Have always wondered if I'm mistaken Never smelled any smoke so far in all my MH flights. Edited September 1, 2016 by lcpteck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites