Norman 1 Report post Posted February 10, 2006 --> QUOTE(Kelvin B @ Feb 10 2006, 09:16 AM) 29299[/snapback] Hi Gavin, Thanks for the tips. I was using ISO 50 all the time. On the spotting trip on the 6th, I was using P most of the time. But I found that a lot of the pics were just not so clear. Sometimes too dark, sometimes too bright, and not clear...., so I tried to use M mode on the 8th, and in general, got a bit clearer pics. The thing I was wondering with both those two shots, they were taken one after another, without changing the settings, but the outcome is completely different. I thought that the outcome should be at least similar with the shutter speed and aperture fixed. What else does the camera do inside, with respect to exposure? Does it process white light information, white balance, etc?? Anyway, I will take a few more trips out there and play more with different settings etc.... should be fun :D:D My guess, the culprit is the digicam Auto White Balance. With the rest being equal, setting WB to auto sometimes play tricks to your images. Also happen in semi-pro dSLR... but if you notice... KLIA's runway is quite long... and there're areas of bright&sunny, as well as shaded (by clouds)... So the metering in the cam is working like mad Sometimes it nailed down, sometimes not... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raj 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2006 Fantastic shots Kelvin.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin B 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2006 My guess, the culprit is the digicam Auto White Balance. With the rest being equal, setting WB to auto sometimes play tricks to your images. Also happen in semi-pro dSLR... but if you notice... KLIA's runway is quite long... and there're areas of bright&sunny, as well as shaded (by clouds)... So the metering in the cam is working like mad Sometimes it nailed down, sometimes not... Hey Norman, I suspect that too. Really weird when i was out there, on the 8th. The AFC and red planes quite clear and nice (I was using manual focus too ). But the MAS one all chekai.... Came back and read a bit of the manual on the AWB. Will use a fixed white balance thing next time i go out there... Today still raining, not nice for spotting.... Maybe sunday, if can get permission from wife... . Have fun spotting out there tomorrow. hope it does not rain...! Raj, Thanks... Okay, last set of pics from the 8th.... Saw these guys digging around at the side of the runway.... kutip sampah ah? What do you see hiding behind the MAS kargo?? I saw this come in, and thought what a shame, coz i would not be able to see her leave, but just as I was about to head home, she came out... Must be a quicky, come in, unload, and head off. I thought it would stay in the cargo bay a little longer than the two hours.... lucky me anyway. BIG HACKSAW please...!!!!! I like this one, flying into the MAS logo Anyway, after she left, I left too...... and thats the finish of my spotting pics for now... :) cheers Kelvin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted February 10, 2006 Photoshop is a very powerful tool Try to edit your shots with Photoshop CS2 or Paint Shop Pro by Jasc Software Before After After Neat Image Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin B 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2006 brighter ah? thanks for the tip Gavin. Have to buy another computer first before I can get photoshop. i cant install anything on my company notebook... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ignatius 4 Report post Posted February 10, 2006 Gavin.. pls do teach me how to remove all those jaggies.. i HATE Em... using paintshop pro.... This is what i always do.. original size is 3200 x 2400... Sharpen it once.. then crop it straight to 800 resolution.. then resharpen it.. then i remove digital camera noise... but those jaggies therelah.. apamaciam?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin B 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2006 ignatius, I never did sharpen the photos from the camera.... The only "processing" i do is to crop, rotate and sometimes play with brightness.... . have to get some photo editing software lah... hmppp.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ignatius 4 Report post Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) I think your shots dont need one ehhe. quite sharp.. ur rego is sharp.. so ur plane sure sharp hehe.. ur own sets of rule of thumb... This is he last ok pix from my spotting session with Kelvin..will get back to KLIA for more.. I think this dont qualify as a nose shot ?? Lemme see.. Azahan says.. 1.) can see cockpit yes no? = half half can see 2.) See pilot inside? yes no? = can see his backside 3.) fill in the gaps yes no? = yes i guess??? Conclussion = Only Azahan knows And i never knew i had a strobe in my frame hehe.. First AK320 cockpit shot.. AFA rego.. in front of me is Cpt Arrifin.. the other Cpt went to piss i think hehe. Edited February 10, 2006 by ignatius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin B 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2006 I like the Sri Lankan one..!!! the shape of the fuselage looks cool... And a cockpit shot.. great..!! your flight back izzit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ignatius 4 Report post Posted February 10, 2006 Kelvin.. yup, its my flight back.. got some amoi pix.. but not cunlah.. can post if u guys 1 Find the rego if u can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin B 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2006 not sure lerr.... can post without permission? i also got one or two nice ah moi pics, but dare not post.... hahhaha... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin B 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Went back for a bit more on the 12th to test some new settings, and most of the shots came out CRAPPY...!! Anyway, got a China Cargo, and was wondering if it was the pilots smiley face i got, or if it was some optical effect.... And I really like this plane.... Haven't had the chance to go spotting since then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2006 Lucky enuf to get into cockpit.. One question, only Captains are allowed to fly new busses? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted February 25, 2006 Lucky enuf to get into cockpit.. One question, only Captains are allowed to fly new busses? Most probably some training involved, so one captain is really the instructor for the other captain, to be trained on the "new" aircraft-type... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin B 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Hi Guys, I was reading another post about file size of the pics. I realized that my photos were pretty large, and would take quite a long time to load, for those with slower net connections, or when photobucket was overloaded. So I have gone in and resized all my photos. For those with slower net connections, I hope it helps. Cheers. Kelvin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azuddin 1 Report post Posted March 5, 2006 anyone got a picture of the Hibiscus? my dad is on it for KUL-LHR flight Azuddin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Idham 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2006 Okey, finally this time I saw 737-4H6... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin B 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2006 Okey, finally this time I saw 737-4H6... which one is that??? anyone got a picture of the Hibiscus? my dad is on it for KUL-LHR flight Azuddin Which day ah? i didnt see any hibiscus when i was out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2006 --> QUOTE(Kelvin B @ Mar 6 2006, 09:28 PM) 34165[/snapback] which one is that??? Mike Mike Echo i think.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azuddin 1 Report post Posted March 6, 2006 --> QUOTE(Kelvin B @ Mar 6 2006, 09:28 PM) 34165[/snapback] which one is that??? Which day ah? i didnt see any hibiscus when i was out there. 6 of february that is, the day whic hthis topic is about. Azuddin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin B 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2006 no lah, didnt see the hibiscus at all those days.... . guess the timing was wrong. got heliconia, but it was on the wrong runway.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azuddin 1 Report post Posted March 7, 2006 it's OK. i found the pict on a.net. there's 2 guy managa to nail it, but they not MW people. Azuddin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites