affendi osman 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2008 While watching news on TV3 just now, there was a report about MH A330 (PEN-KUL MH 1145) involved in a hydraulic problem and attempted an emergency landing at KUL in the afternoon. No footage of the plane was shown except for the arrival hall clip. Any info about this? Kudos to the crew.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 No, but there was another mishap in Indonesia. Excerp of news for those who can't read Bahasa Indonesia: A Sriwijaya Air Boeing 737-300 (PK-CJC) flight SJ 6 from Jakarta overshoot the runway at Depati Amir Airport in Pangkal Pinang, Bangka Belitung at 17:15 on 18 April 2008. Basically the aircraft started touching the 1,800 meter runway at the airport at 1/3 of the length which resulted in the mishap. 144 passengers were denied death. The saviour of the mishap was the open grass field at the end of the runway where the aircraft was laid to rest after being off the runway for 25 meter. Among the 144 passengers, there were many foreign nationals onboard too; Kazakhstan (5), China (10), Thailand (10) and Iran (3) all of whom were heading to a beach volleyball tournament there. This is the first reported mishap for Sriwijaya Air, who seems to have a clean safety record among all LCCs in Indonesia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
affendi osman 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 maybe it is all about speed! otherwise the plane won't start to touchdown at 1/3 of the runway length. same case like GA crash before i guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teoh Z Yao 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 maybe it is all about speed! otherwise the plane won't start to touchdown at 1/3 of the runway length. same case like GA crash before i guess. No, digression from glide slope itself can cause touchdown at 1/3 of runway -- at whatever speed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 flaps are up....did have time for after landing checklist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 144 passengers were denied death Perhaps not quite precisely conveying the message there ! As I understand it - "fortunately there were no fatalities in the said incident" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wira Azmi 2 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 (edited) flaps are up....did have time for after landing checklist ...a very good observation indeed ..your looking at a possible cause here, high and fast thus unable to extend flaps in the process..it should be the evac checklist they should be running , and that calls for flaps down i think Edited April 19, 2008 by Wira Azmi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yusoff 1 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 (edited) ... This is the first reported mishap for Sriwijaya Air, who seems to have a clean safety record among all LCCs in Indonesia. That pilot surely kena 'hantam ' for tarnishing the record... Bad news for Indonesian aviation. About the flaps, can it be the pilots retracted them after the plane came to halt? or the flaps jammed after the plane came to a stop and no way pilots could retract them, thus showing the flaps are up. BTW, the article title reads 'Hundreds of Passangers Screaming' Edited April 19, 2008 by Yusoff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khaled 2 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) Well, airplanes are just like cars. You don't really damage the internal system just by driving your car on the grass. It's possible that the flight crew decided not to evacuate as there's no real threat there. Unnecessary evacuation can cause a lot of problem like injury. Edited April 20, 2008 by Khaled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 Plane looks fine . luckily it didn't sink in though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Michael Report post Posted April 20, 2008 There was news going around on The Edge site saying that they are going to retire the A330 planes quite soon apparently. Can anybody else confirm this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Faridz Mohd Yunus 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 ...or,could it be the plane have problems with the flaps...therefore flapless landing,high speed and resulting in going off the runway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khaled 2 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 ...or,could it be the plane have problems with the flaps...therefore flapless landing,high speed and resulting in going off the runway? If it's my flight, I'll strongly recommend the capt to divert. Flaps 15 landing at 1800m runway pretty tough...now add 144 pax inside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 It's possible that the flight crew decided not to evacuate as there's no real threat there. Unnecessary evacuation can cause a lot of problem like injury. That was exactly my 'question' in the other thread: the airport was even able to put stairs there for disembarkation you're right, Khaled, flapless on a 1800m runway and touching down at high speed with 1200m left, is bound for 'disaster'...very lucky, indeed, no one was hurt/injured/killed in this mishap !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Faridz Mohd Yunus 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 That was exactly my 'question' in the other thread: the airport was even able to put stairs there for disembarkation you're right, Khaled, flapless on a 1800m runway and touching down at high speed with 1200m left, is bound for 'disaster'...very lucky, indeed, no one was hurt/injured/killed in this mishap !!! If its indeed a flapless or flaps15 landing,then the decision to continue and land might not be very prudent...unless there is something that we dont know eg fuel policy not allowing you to have enough fuel to divert to a better airfield.Some LCCs are known to carry very minimal fuel to reduce operating cost.Whatever it is,good to know no one got seriously hurt... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites