Cathay Pacific will resume HK - Shanghai flights

[S V Choong 4]

Source (in Chinese):

 

http://www.atchinese.com/index.php?option=...22658&Itemid=31

 

國泰年底復航停飛16年港滬線

2006/09/26, 週二

 

國泰航空(0293.HK)飛往香港至上海的客運航線停辦16年，準備2006年12月1日恢復，每天一班往返香港及上海浦東國際機場。

 

 

香港政府最近批出上海的客運航權，予以香港為基地國泰，使英資能復辦航線，國泰將提供空巴A330-300或A340-300客機往來兩地。

 

 

國泰指出上海是內地的重要商業樞紐，目前公司往返中港的客運市場中，上海佔35%，貨運更佔68%。

 

 

該股26日半天漲1.511%，報16.12港元。

 

Cathay will resume the HKG- Shanghai flights after 16 years of absence, except that CX will not be returning to Shanghai Hongqiao airport (SHA), instead CX will be flying into Pudong International airport (PVG / ZSPD) with one daily flight utilising Airbus A330-300 or Airbus A340-313X.

 

16 years ago, CX handed the HKG-SHA route to sister airline Dragonair along with Beijing. CX has also returned to Beijing (PEK / ZBAA) a year or two ago. It was believed that PVG did not have enough slot to allocate for CX, thus the delayed return, with the new 'mirror' terminal at finishing, there will be extra slot available for CX at Pudong.

 

CX will be start the HKG-PVG route on 1 December 2006.

 

 

 

[Andrew Yong 0]

Sneeze , good news from Ur National Airlines!!!!

[Isaac 0]

KA already have 15x daily flights between HKG/PVG and 16x - 17x daily flights on certain days. An average of 9x out of these 15x-17x daily flights are operated by KA 333. And MU got lots of flight also. And now CX. Congrats to CX

[S V Choong 4]

16x - 17x daily

 

Thats a really high number for a day don't you think Isaac?

[Isaac 0]

Thats a really high number for a day don't you think Isaac?

Yeah. And MU got 13x - 14x flights a day. Some of these 13x -14x flights are operated by MU newly delivered 332/333.

 

[Pieter C. 5]

Just did a random check for a wednesday (15nov06) and it shows 29 flights as follows:

16NOV THU 0001-0300* HKG PVG CAT7

01 HKG PVG 16-0800 1020 KA 802 FAARJACADAPRYABAHA 330

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02 HKG PVG 16-0820 1045 MU 726 CRJRDRYRKRBRERHRLR 321

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03 HKG PVG 16-0900 1115 KA 898 JACADRPRYABAHAKAMA 321

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04 HKG PVG 16-0930 1145 KA 864 JACRDRPRYABAHAKAMR 321

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05 HKG PVG 16-0940 1210 MU 722 CRJRDRYRKRBRERHRLR 320

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06 HKG PVG 16-1000 1215 KA 876 JACRDRPRYABAHAKAMA 321

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07 HKG PVG 16-1100 1315 KA 804 FAARJACADAPRYABAHA 330

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08 HKG PVG 16-1150 1410 MU 502 CRJRDRYRKRBRERHRLR 320

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09 HKG PVG 16-1200 1415 KA 892 JACADRPRYABAHAKAMA 321

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10 HKG PVG 16-1240 1455 MU 702 FRPRARCRJRDRYRKRBR 340

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11 HKG PVG 16-1300 1520 KA 874 FAARJACADAPRYABAHA 330

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12 HKG PVG 16-1350 1610 MU 504 CRJRDRYRKRBRERHRLR 320

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13 HKG PVG 16-1400 1620 KA 800 JACADAPRYABAHAKAMA 330

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14 HKG PVG 16-1410 1630 MU 728 CRJRDRYRKRBRERHRLR AB6

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15 HKG PVG 16-1500 1715 KA 890 FAARJACADAPRYABAHA 330

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16 HKG PVG 16-1500 1720 MU 704 CRJRDRYRKRBRERHRLR 333

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17 HKG PVG 16-1535 1745 KA 834 JACADRPRYABAHAKAMA 321

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18 HKG PVG 16-1540 1805 MU 506 CRJRDRYRKRBRERHRLR 320

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19 HKG PVG 16-1600 1815 KA 896 JACADRPRYABAHAKAMA 321

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20 HKG PVG 16-1635 1900 MU 706 CRJRDRYRKRBRERHRLR 320

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21 HKG PVG 16-1700 1915 KA 808 FAARJACADAPRYABAHA 330

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22 HKG PVG 16-1735 2000 MU 508 CRJRDRYRKRBRERHRLR 320

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23 HKG PVG 16-1800 2015 KA 872 JACADRPRYABAHAKAMA 321

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24 HKG PVG 16-1835 2050 KA 830 JACADAPAYABAHAKAMA 320

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25 HKG PVG 16-1900 2120 KA 894 FAARJACADAPRYABAHA 330

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26 HKG PVG 16-1850 2120 MU 708 CRJRDRYRKRBRERHRLR 321

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27 HKG PVG 16-1945 2210 MU 510 FRPRARCRJRDRYRKRBR 340

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28 HKG PVG 16-2045 2255 KA 870 FAARJACADAPRYABAHA 330

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29 HKG PVG 16-2050 2305 MU 712 CRJRDRYRKRBRERHRLR 333

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[S V Choong 4]

26 flights a day is a lot! I think it will be around the same amounts of flight from HK - Beijing. I wonder what their load factor is like, because as far as I understand, it costs a bomb to catch the HK-mainland flights. Cheaper option is to go to Shenzhen Baoan airport (SZX) by catching a boat from HK Central or Kowloon Peninsular, or even by bus, then you will get a much cheaper fare!

[Sneeze Lam 0]

Sneeze , good news from Ur National Airlines!!!!

 

 

Haha, Raj. To me, such news mean nothing now.

Guess why?

 

 

Easy to get the answer I think.

It is all because CX has at last merged with KA.

So, if it is really meaningful for CX back to PVG?

The meaning is still here, but not as great as what we saw years before.

 

 

Agree?

 

KA already have 15x daily flights between HKG/PVG and 16x - 17x daily flights on certain days. An average of 9x out of these 15x-17x daily flights are operated by KA 333. And MU got lots of flight also. And now CX. Congrats to CX

 

 

I guess, once CX back to the market, KA's flights to/ from PVG will be reduced due to the collaboration.

[BC Tam 2]

I wonder which of the following routes is the busiest in terms of (a) frequencies ( total capacity

1 HKG-Shanghai

2 HKG-Beijing

3 HKG-Taipei

Thanks for any help !

Edited September 29, 2006 by BC Tam

[Sneeze Lam 0]

I wonder which of the following routes is the busiest in terms of (a) frequencies ( total capacity

1 HKG-Shanghai

2 HKG-Beijing

3 HKG-Taipei

Thanks for any help !

 

 

Today's flights to TPE:

many charter flights to TPE since the national day's long holiday

 

Today's flights to PVG:

 

Today's flights to PEK:

[Pieter C. 5]

Sneeze,

 

Baaaaahhhhhhhh, plenty of flights to TPE after 6pm

[BC Tam 2]

Thanks for the feedback guys !

What can one do but just sit back, let the jaw drop and plain and simple just be amazed outta one's mind at the number of flights in/out HKG !!

Bear in mind, those are just flights to three destinations only, NOT counting flights from and flights to/from the very numerous other destinations.

 

Sneeze,

A word of warning - after HKG, you're likely to drop dead from sheer utter boredom if ever you try our BKI here !!

[S V Choong 4]

I have been to Pudong a few times and everytime I noticed that it is almost quite normal to see between 2-3 Dragonair A330/A320/A321 at the gates or apron at the same time! Thing is, KA does not fly to other Chinese destination from any Chinese cities, only directly to/from to HKG.

 

Taipei Taoyuan airport is almost like a second hub for CX. Almost all flights to Japan and Korea stops at Taipei, I am sure Sneeze can confirm this.

Edited September 30, 2006 by S V Choong

[Sneeze Lam 0]

I have been to Pudong a few times and everytime I noticed that it is almost quite normal to see between 2-3 Dragonair A330/A320/A321 at the gates or apron at the same time! Thing is, KA does not fly to other Chinese destination from any Chinese cities, only directly to/from to HKG.

 

Taipei Taoyuan airport is almost like a second hub for CX. Almost all flights to Japan and Korea stops at Taipei, I am sure Sneeze can confirm this.

 

 

Yes, for KA's flts to PVG. They send all types. It may be caused of the flexiblility of the fleet, allows KA to provide frequent service to PVG. Yes again for the KA destinations, all KA PAX flts are with ONE leg only.

 

About TPE, ummm, TPE, BKK works nearly the same function, as a mini hub of CX. For TPE, it serves most of the flights to Japan, and ICN, but not all. There are 9 pairs of direct flts to Japan (KIX, NRT, NGO, SPK), 4 pairs of flts to ICN; whereas 4 pairs of flts to JPN (@ for KIX, NRT, NGO, FUK), 1 pair of flts to ICN.