Azuddin 1 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 just found this pict on A.net and there's a forum about it. i don't know if this has been discuss here. Can anyone confirm when this happen. the a/c is PH-BFN not really a good sight Azuddin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 Azuddin, Wonder myself why the cabin is underneath the 747; normal pushback procedures are to PUSH back and not PULL back as shown here...according the website www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl the "Nairobi" will be out of service for 3-4 weeks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azuddin 1 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 Azuddin, Wonder myself why the cabin is underneath the 747; normal pushback procedures are to PUSH back and not PULL back as shown here...according the website www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl the "Nairobi" will be out of service for 3-4 weeks 3-4 weeks, that's not a good news. looks like it's a major one. based on A.net, Nairobi was prepared for departure to JFK. after this incident, NWA 747 take the route. Azuddin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rozhan 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 Opps! Ground support vehicles have red lights flashing on top of them... perhaps to warn of their presence to avoid an accident. Somehow they are causing accidents themselves! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 Will try to dig-out some more information, when I'm back at the office later this week; will keep you posted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azuddin 1 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 Will try to dig-out some more information, when I'm back at the office later this week; will keep you posted Thanks Peiter Azuddin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teoh Z Yao 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 Not a good sight... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric M 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 From what I've heard, the pushback driver was speeding with his vehicle. The too high speed while in a turn, made the pushback vehicle make a 180 degrees turn underneath the B747's fuselage. The accident causes big problems in KL's flight operations. It seems, EWR flights are now shifted from A330 to NWA DC-10 service JFK gets B767 and A332 on the evening departure ex AMS Toronto will shift to a B772 Rgds Eric Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 What will happen to the tow truck driver? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 Kapitan, If indeed he was speeding and "wreckless" driving, no doubt he'll be sacked by the company !!! What Eric described here, is VERY serious and costly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azuddin 1 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 anything on damage report, from what i see, the nose gear look twisted 180 degrees, the fuselage is ripped, the antenna is bended. not to mention what he did to the Goldhofer. Azuddin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 sure costly..cause it is our Queen Of The Sky..tow truck driver,good luck to u! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azuddin 1 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 sure costly..cause it is our Queen Of The Sky..tow truck driver,good luck to u! It's the Dutch queen which involved here. Queen VS Truck Driver Azuddin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 This looks like a very plausible explanation: "A loaded trailer has more weight than the towing vehicle. If an abrupt stop is needed, and the trailer/plane does not have the braking power of the power unit - in a slick/low traction situation, then this is exactly what happened. The tug driver in this scenario is most definately at fault." Looking at the pictures, I think this is what happened Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Azahan 1 Report post Posted February 12, 2006 oh my god!!! i am very sorry to see what has happenned to your big baby, pieter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth K 3 Report post Posted February 13, 2006 This is not langgar lari, is it? btw, who will pay for the damage? Insurance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azuddin 1 Report post Posted February 13, 2006 based on the way he trash the Goldhofer and the 747, i think the driver have to pay for it. or get sacked. Azuddin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted February 13, 2006 based on the way he trash the Goldhofer and the 747, i think the driver have to pay for it. or get sacked. Azuddin The insurance will pay for all damages, but the driver will be sacked, no doubt, if proven guilty !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted February 16, 2006 Prelimenary results are: Turning too fast from taxi-track to gate; with the weight of the 747 AND braking while turning, the mass of the 747 wanted to go straight-ahead i.s.o. turn, pushing the truck underneath the belly of the Fox November...aircraft out 5-6 weeks and damages estimated at around 14 million Euros Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attan 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2006 So the truck was speeding, eh? Really a case of the cart overrunning the horse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted February 17, 2006 Really a case of the cart overrunning the horse. Very well said, Attan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sherman 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 wonder how the pushing back truck can speeding since the aircraft parking brake is set??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 Sherman, Like I said before here, the 747 was NOT pushed back from the gate, but was pulled towards the gate (from the hangars), and while turning from the taxi-track towards the gate (at high speed), this happened; Captain Attan's response in this matter, is quite well said, in my opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sherman 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 thanks for ur re-explaination, Pieter... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
