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Capt Radzi, Apart from the aircraft being grounded for engineering checks (intensive checks or similar checks?), Passengers rerouted, etc... (Is this still non issue? I am sure there are financial losses, great inconvenience to passengers inevitably due to safety) Does MH treat this as somewhat urgent? Unretractable gears are not frequent occurance or they are just not important to be reported, hence the ignorance en masse (including yours truly) ? Good thing you did not make it to the news, but if MH had a 747 scare akin to Qantas in the same time frame, you will be for sure be in the limelight..... headlines - maybe hero returning the aircraft to safety..... i can always feel the landing gear being lowered during landing as a passenger, since the 767 is much bigger than 737, am i right to say that the vibration is more pronounced than a smaller aircraft? If the landing gear is retracted but the door is not, will the disturbance to aerodynamics be any different? (When the mountain is removed, the molehill is very visible )

They still don't get it that it's Qantas' own safety standard that is resulting in the jet issues - he is still blaming non Australians.... Gosh - I hope they don't go as low as scapegoat"ing" Qantas immigrant's/non australian staff's to blame for Qantas aircrafts issues... "But he said any passenger perceptions of dropping safety standards on Qantas jets "is probably a message for Qantas that they need to have maintenance done by Australians in Australia"."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,2...267-661,00.html BREAKING NEWS: A QANTAS flight bound for Melbourne made an emergency landing tonight after a door reportedly opened mid-flight. The flight, believed to be QF692, took off from Adelaide at 6.08pm but turned around and landed safely 37 minutes later. There was confusion over what caused the emergency. Passengers said a door opened mid-flight, causing "chaos" in the cabin. But airline sources said the doors covering the wheel bay did not close properly after take-off. The aircraft turned around near Murray Bridge, about 60km from Adelaide, and landed safely at 6.45pm. A Boeing 737-800 usually flies the Adelaide to Melbourne leg. The aircraft remained at Adelaide Airport while passengers were transferred to another Melbourne flight. A Qantas spokesperson refused to comment beyond confirming an incident had occurred on the flight. The drama comes just three days after a mid-air emergency aboard a Qantas 747 on Friday. A ruptured oxygen bottle is believed to have ripped a 3m hole in the side of QF30 from Hong Kong to Melbourne, forcing it to make an emergency landing in Manila. It was revealed yesterday a piece of metal from the bottle sliced into the cabin of the jet, just missing passengers.

I can understand the uneasy sentiments some Aussies may have, its exactly the same thing that happened when Malaysia was instantly put in bad light as a scapegoat. This is an instant reaction by all (just like your concern to the posts here) in fairness - the magnimity of media exposure in comparison (International Media against just MW forum - perhaps a little bit more understanding from our Aussie counterpart here please) Please understand the feelings of Malaysians as the Aussie media (or whoever that is responsible) generalized Malaysia on the whole (and Singapore the last time) So some of Malaysians may feel, hence some may respond "Australians" a point of reference. To be fair, as a Malaysian I feel most of the threads here do not specifically bash Australians but the responsible party on the whole. It's easier to use "they" and "them" (some even use Australians) as a term of reference, this is a forum for enthusiasts - not anti Australians or anti Malaysians for that matter. It will be rather tedious for everyone to specifically mention the correct party involved, The Qantas Union or whoever that is specifically responsible in place of they and them. Its a forum filled with different people of different writing styles. In the spirit of Malaysian Wings forum - everyone is entitled to their thoughts, expressions and writing styles (in decent decorum as a base). Misquoting specifically another forumer(me) has created unwarranted ill-feelings for another is part and parcel in a forum - it just needs clarifications BUT most importantly exercise caution before you quote someone.

Nik - you are not being fair in quoting my comments that generalized Aussies - I would have said specifically or typed in "Australians" if I meant that. "they" obviously meant Qantas (or to be specific now that you raised the issue - the party who wrote the circular that was posted here) I have some family members in Australia too and do not appreciate if they said the same thing to us Malaysians...

is that carribean coast ? I have a friend who stay there.....

Guys - pardon my ignorance, may I know what happened to AFA??? Did I miss something out?

although i must say the MH personalized foil cover on the hot meal is a nice touch, (not going to re-open a can of worms that taste will surpass expectation") They should have labels in dual language air/water at the same prominence - realize that the small prints may have English(does it?) but at a glance, If I do not know Bahasa Malaysia - I will be laughing away that we call water "air"..... we have foreign visitors flying MH domestically and MH is an international carrier as well.....

you are spot on right, they seem to think that their standard is highest in the world, surpassing "lower global minimum standards" excerpt from post #62 The question is, would people mind flying in Australia under the global minimum standard or should we fight to retain our higher Australian standards? The generations of pilots who have built and operate Australia's world's-best aviation system think we should. That is why pilots and our engineering colleagues are battling right now to protect those higher Australian safety standards from being replaced with lower global minimum standards.In my view, it's a battle that is being lost.

good one Naim.....

what a bummer..... Garuda chosen over MH.... AF is doing exceptionally well in blocking MH.....

They should also apologize for their baseless accusations on behalf of their trigger happy senior pilot... media damage has been done...

more bad reviews for Malaysia..... Agence France-Presse - 7/26/2008 3:19 AM GMT (excerpt) Sydney's Daily Telegraph reported that engineers discovered a large amount of corrosion in the jumbo during a major refurbishment earlier this year. Under the front page headline "Rust Bucket", the newspaper said the 17-year-old jet received a new interior at Melbourne's Avalon airport in March and said aviation sources had told it engineers had found a lot of corrosion. A senior Qantas pilot told the Telegraph that Friday's drama may be related to the airline's decision to outsource aircraft maintenance to Malaysia. "This could well be the direct result of Qantas having stand-in engineers, or from outsourcing maintenance to Malaysia," the unnamed pilot told the newspaper. "It has been talked about a lot here and we have been told to be extra vigilant when you walk around the aircraft. "With Qantas outsourcing maintenance to Malaysia, (it) is certainly worrying a lot of us pilots.". The Boeing 747-400 took off from London with 346 passengers and 19 crew on board and was heading to Melbourne after a stopover in Hong Kong when the incident occurred.

Guys, where do you normally spot (Bus depot??) and what time do you guys go ah - this sat or sun? I want to drop in and see you pro's in action!!!

commissions from the sale, sell back get commission, resell again get more commission..... somebody keep the commission.....

with a lot of new planes coming, good time for livery "refreshing" (maybe another special livery to welcome the new baby boeings...) we have real seen MH738 before (remember the 2 leased 738's for a short period back then) I said it before in another thread, gonna say it again.... imagine if the widely photographed and loved bunga raya and heliconia liveries are applied on all 738's.... KLIA will be the most colourful airport in the world.... first interior - now exterior..... Pening or "Happening"???

out of curiosity - are those 2 Airliners.net gentlemen from Boeing, Airbus or from MH that we can depend on for news? at this juncture I would rather digest IJ's NST interview - should any thing differs or should there a wide body purchase announcement in farnborough - then he has his credibility at play.A given thing - corporate figures will not contradict what they say in the press.

738 - with or without winglets We already have previous examples from MH - remember the 2 wet leased B738 from Travel service (2006 I think) One is with winglets and the other one without winglets. I prefer with winglets of course, definitely, for sure 200% prefer with winglets...... (Flashback) I jumped with excitement when I saw the b738 with winglets parked near satelite building while we were taking off.... i was so excited to see a MH 738 with the sexy winglets jutting out then.... the winglets gives the 737 a very elegant and sexy look.... can check out the pictures on a.net

it's going to be tough helm for Dato IJ with so much of challenges upcoming... I also wonder why he accepted the renewal....

agree with Mushrif - both are somewhat similar media organization (do we classify NST and Bernama as non specialist medias??) how la macam itu? btw - from a source in NST - the piece from NST is a direct interview itself with IJ when he was in penang..... NST - 738's (35-as reported widely in medias) +20 options Bernama - 738's - 55 looks the same to me, bernama is a brief media piece whilst NST detailed it down further...

a pre-empt though - visa application, the Chinese Embassy is monitoring closely on visa approval and Malaysia is also in their "strict" list on visa application.

Idris to pilot MAS for 3 more years? DATUK Seri Idris Jala is set to stay on as the managing director and chief executive officer of Malaysian Airline System Bhd (MAS) for another three years. His existing contract expires at the end of this year. Staying on means that he will have to steer the company through what he calls a perfect storm: oil prices have hit record highs, the global economy is slowing and competition is getting tougher. Idris said the fresh contract talks between the government, its investment arm Khazanah Nasional Bhd and MAS directors have been ongoing. "We have reached a mutual agreement," he told reporters after delivering a lecture organised by the alumni body of the Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM) in Penang yesterday. The 50-year-old turnaround specialist graduated from USM in 1982 with a bachelor's degree in development/management. There has been little to suggest that Idris would not keep his job after changing the fortunes of the national carrier. Idris was appointed to his current position in December 2005 after MAS posted two successive quarters of losses. It lost RM1.3 billion that year. MAS now has RM5 billion in cash and it intends to reduce costs by RM630 million this year. It plans to buy second-hand planes from financially troubled airlines. "The airline business is expected to go into turmoil over the next few years and we are hoping for distressed sales of aircraft," he added. He told reporters that although MAS is holding off its option to order 20 B737-800 aircraft, there would be no change to the orders for the 20 ATR 72-500 turbo propeller planes the company placed last year. MAS' wholly-owned subsidiaries Firefly and MASwings are each set to get 10 new ATRs, which are currently being sold by its manufacturer Aerei da Trasporto Regionale (ATR) for US$18.5 million (RM60 million) each. MAS will use its own funds and borrowings to buy the ATR planes. Asked on the status of the delivery of the six Airbus A380 jumbo passenger jets, Idris said the first A380 will arrive in January 2011 while the other five will be delivered on a monthly basis during the first half of 2011. MAS was originally scheduled to take delivery of its first A380 in July last year and its sixth in May 2009. However, delivery dates have been delayed after European aircraft maker Airbus began facing production delays since 2005 for its flagship superjumbo programme. NST - Business

it's nice and kinda "manly" looking livery, like the engine colours contrasting with the bright red, really brings it out. variety in livery is the spice of life for aviation enthusiasts... (Although some of the airbus with the regular livery seems to spot a lot of peeling paint coming out on their vertical tails.....) at one time i see 3 aircrafts with the same wear and tear. anyone seen the VMY Blue tailed airbus? it's been sometime since a picture of that gal has surfaced...

KC, may i request for a high resolution shot of my favorite livery - the blue olympic b737 photo shot that you took...... It is a beauty the way you took it.......

En Norman, very nice la your shots....... more more more please...... did you see the Air China Blue olympic B737, if you tembak dia, can send me a full resolution one... I only have lots of shots of it taken from my canon ixus cam, nothing compares to the professional close up shots you take....