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"AMSTERDAM - Een Fokker 70 van de KLM, vlucht 1174 onderweg van Trondheim naar Amsterdam, is zaterdag boven het zuiden van Noorwegen dicht in de buurt gekomen van een Airbus A330 van SAS onderweg van Kopenhagen naar Washington DC. KLM-woordvoerder Bart Koster meldt zondagochtend (8 januari) dat er absoluut geen sprake was van een near crash. Wel bevestigt hij dat er sprake is van een incident dat tot op de bodem zal worden uitgezocht.

 

Zowel de vluchtverkeersleiding als de TCAS systemen (Traffic Alert & Collision Avoidance System) in de beide toestellen waarschuwden voor een nadering in de lucht, meldt de woordvoerder. De TCAS systemen van beide toestellen dirigeerden de A330 naar een hoger vluchthoogte en de Fokker 70 naar een lagere vluchthoogte .

 

KLM heeft het incident direct gerapporteerd aan de eigen vliegdienst die in verbinding staat met de inspectie Verkeer en Waterstaat. Ook vanuit de vluchtleiding in Noorwegen wordt een grondig onderzoek ingesteld."

 

hehehe, after seeing so many paper-reports in English, here's one for you in Dutch...let me translate it for you:

 

"A Fokker 70 of KLM, flight 1174 from TRD to AMS, has been very close inflight with an A330 of SAS, operating from CPH to IAD, over Southern Norway. KLM spokesperson Bart Koster reports (sundaymorning 08/01), there was absolutely no possibility of a near-crash. He does, however, confirm there was an incident which will be investigated upon thoroughly.

Both the ATC as well as the TCAS systems in both aircraft warned for an approaching collision, according to the spokesperson. TCAS systems of both planes directed the A330 to climb to a higher altitude and the Fokker 70 to descend to a lower altitude.

KLM has reported the incident immediately to the Dutch CAA (IVW); also, the Norwegian ATC will investigate further..."

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"A Fokker 70 of KLM, flight 1174 from TRD to AMS, has been very close inflight with an A330 of SAS, operating from CPH to IAD, over Southern Norway. KLM spokesperson Bart Koster reports (sundaymorning 08/01), there was absolutely no possibility of a near-crash. He does, however, confirm there was an incident which will be investigated upon thoroughly.

Both the ATC as well as the TCAS systems in both aircraft warned for an approaching collision, according to the spokesperson. TCAS systems of both planes directed the A330 to climb to a higher altitude and the Fokker 70 to descend to a lower altitude.

KLM has reported the incident immediately to the Dutch CAA (IVW); also, the Norwegian ATC will investigate further..."

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Any updates on this story Pieter? I can't find anything more even at airliners.net huh.gif

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Hisham,

 

There WAS a post on A.net (don't know the header anymore):

 

"During cruise FL340 TCAS warning occured due conflicting traffic on same FL on collision course...ATC requested KLC to turn 30 degrees. at same time TCAS RA occured. crew followed advisory to descent. conflicting traffic followed advisory to climb. vertical seperation 1200ft. both flights continued uneventful"

 

KLC aircraft was PH-JCT.

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Hisham,

 

There WAS a post on A.net (don't know the header anymore):

 

"During cruise FL340 TCAS warning occured due conflicting traffic on same FL on collision course...ATC requested KLC to turn 30 degrees. at same time TCAS RA occured. crew followed advisory to descent. conflicting traffic followed advisory to climb. vertical seperation 1200ft. both flights continued uneventful"

 

KLC aircraft was PH-JCT.

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Oh ... ok, thanks smile.gif Must have missed that one biggrin.gif

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Not really KLM or KLM cityhopper news, but some news from Skyteam, as two airlines will join this Alliance:

 

JAT (Servia and Montenegro)

MEA (Lebanon)

 

Good to see a Middle-Eastern airline join the Alliance, after RJ joined OneWorld wink.gif

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More SkyTeam news:

 

Aeroflot will join end-of March...

China Southern will join end-of-October...

 

Here's an article published in the Holland Herald magazine recently...nice to know information for most of our Asian MW members ;) :

 

"Anyone who regularly visits European destinations via Schiphol has probably flown with KLM cityhopper at least once in their travels. The distinctive fleet of Fokker 50s, 70s, and 100s are a familiar sight, not only at the Amsterdam hub but also at the airports throughout the continent. This ubiquity has created a special identification among the airline's passengers. "They have even given our aircraft the generic name 'cityhoppers'!" says a proud Elfrieke van Galen, Managing Director of this fully-owned subsudiary of KLM. With 53 aircraft travelling to over 45 scheduled destinations, KLM cityhopper has certainly become a dominant force within European aviation. "If Europe was one country, I think we would have earned the title of Europe's domestic airline", says van Galen. While emphasising KLM cityhopper's uniqueness, she stresses that the company performs a vital role within the broad hierarchy of its parent KLM: "We provide an important stream of services to European cities via Schiphol and, to a lesser extent, Rotterdam and Eindhoven airports. While KLM serves main traffic-flow destinations, we operate more specific services to regions throughout Europe. In fact, it often saves time to use our network to connect to international flights at Schiphol, rather than making the connection through one of the main airports in a passenger's own country of departure".

Efficiency on the ground as well as in the air is paramount. "With over 120 return flights a day, our turnaround has to be fast", says van Galen, "although, these days, internet check-in helps greatly with pre-flight processing. All catering is handled from Schiphol; we don't need to stock up at destination airports, as we have sufficient meals on board for both forward and return flights". The average time for a KLM cityhopper flight is one hour. This makes services especially attractive for business people who can board a flight early in the morning at Schiphol, head of for Munich for a lunch meeting, and be back in Amsterdam by the evening.

KLM cityhopper also provide charter flights and business jets, specifically tailored for private groups. "Chartering an aircraft is proving to be increasingly popular," says van Galen. "It is extremely convenient. You can rent a whole aircraft for up to 100 people and fly direct to the destination where you need to be - many regional, local airfields are open to our aircraft. A business jet offers even more flexibility for smaller groups of people. In addition, our dedicated staff ensures that everything is handled exactly in accordance with the client's specifications."

For more details of the services that KLM cityhopper provides, visit www.klmcityhopper.nl

 

Did you know?

KLM cityhopper carries out around 90,000 flights per year...

Five million passengers travel with KLM cityhopper each year...

KLM cityhopper's Fokker 100 fleet is undergoing an extensive interior refurbishment. New seats have been fitted and interior panelling has been updated. The aircraft will also be fitted with new carpets and curtains...

KLM cityhopper is also operating the sole Fokker 70 on behalf of the Royal Family and Dutch government on world-wide flights...

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Further KLM news:

 

The newest Boeing 777-200ER of KLM appeared outside the Boeing-Everett factory in her new colours.

1st test-flight was planned for the 14th of February by a Boeing crew; thereafter the KLM acceptance-team will make another thorough check for the KLM specifications...

Delivery flight has been planned for 28feb06, to arrive in AMS on 01mar06...

Registration is PH-BQL and name will be, according KLM tradition, start with a L........."Litomysl Castle"

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Today, AF-KLM announced their 3rd quarter results: a profit of 77 million Euros, up from the 23 million of last year's 3rd quarter...excellent results were both generated by the passenger- and cargo divisions...

Total profit sofar for the 3 quarters in total now stands at 906 million Euros :o :o :o

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Well done KLM!

 

Well done Air France-KLM is better said, as it's for both companies: one company - two airlines ;)

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Some more AF-KL news, this time from the AF-side:

 

AF Summer 2006 schedules:

 

Increase in capacity: 6% overall and per longhaul regions - Middle-East: 19.7%; Africa: 11%; Latin-America: 5.5%; Asia: 11.4%. Chengdu is China's newest destination (as reported previously), operated by KLM ;)

PEK will get increased capacity: now by 773; HKG and PVG will go to twice daily...all in all, AF will operate 47 flights a week between CDG and the PRC !!!

 

Medium-haul network increase is 6.3%: Eastern-Europe (9.2%); Northern-Africa (22.7%), and the following destinations are new: Yerevan (Armenia), Leipzig (Germany) and Katowice (Poland)...Nantes-London Gatwick will be cancelled...frequencies to the following destinations will be added: Zagreb, Algiers, Athens and Tel-Aviv...domestic capacity will grow with 1.1%...

 

Hope to tell you more about KLM's Summer schedules tomorrow ;)

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OK, guys & gals, got hold of KLM's Summer plans already, so here we go:

 

KLM will introduce a 7-wave system during the Summer 2006, up from a 6-wave system, giving passengers better connections at AMS thoughout the day...KLM expects 5.5% more passengers and 2.6% more cargo as compared to last year (summer 2005)...

Two new destinations: Billund in Denmark (3x a day with F70) and Chengdu in PRC (2x a week with 772; see also above)...

Lots of frequencies will go up, like LHR from 9 to 10 a day; DUS, GVA, CPH, MIL, MUC, OSL, STO and ZRH from 5 to 6; FRA, GLA and Got from 4 to 5; ABZ, NCE and NUE from 3 to 4; ATH and IST from 2 to 3 and, finally, KRS from 1 to 2 a day...

All flights from AMS to the following cities will be operated by KLM or KLC: LYS, NCE, TLS, MRS and BOD...

 

Also, frequencies to the US and Canada will go up: JFK from 11 to 14 flights a week; EWR from 7 to 10 (by 772 and 332) and YVR from 5 to 7 a week (by M11 and 332); the all-business class BBJ (operated by PrivatAir) will continue to operate :rolleyes:

 

Central- and Southern America: BON will go up from 11 to 12 flights a wee; AUA will go from 5 to 6, however SXM will go down from 3 to 2 a week...

 

Africa and Middle-East: ADD and KRT from 2 to 3 a week (by 332 i.s.o. 763) and DXB (Imran: behold) from 12 to 14 a week; EBB from 3 to 4...

 

Changes in Asia: PVG only by 74M; KIX only by 772...also, KIX will also get an additional Cargo 744ERF flight, via ALA...

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Not really KLM cityhopper news, but here's an overview of the 777 fleet names:

 

KLM Boeing 777-206ER names:

 

BQA "Albert Plesman"

BQB "Borobudur"

BQC "Chichen-Itza"

BQD "Darjeeling Highway"

BQE "Epidaurus"

BQF "Ferrara City"

BQG "Galapagos Islands"

BQH "Hadrian's Wall"

BQI "Iguazu Falls"

BQK "Mount Kilimanjaro"

BQL "Litomysl Castle"

BQM "Machu Picchu"(testreg. was N5017Q)

BQN "Nahanni National Park"

BQO 35295 o/o

BQP 32721 o/o

BQR 35671 o/o

BQS o/o

BQT o/o

 

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KLM has announced following figures for April 2006:

 

Occupation-rate of 85.5% systemwide, which is 2.8% higher than the comparible April 2005 period

Cargo occupation-rate was 74.5% versus 74%

Europe was 78.1% (a 6% increase)

North-, Central and South-America went up to 90.3 % (a 5.3% increase)

Caribbean/Indian Ocean went up to 91.6% (7.2% increase)

Asia went up to 89.5% (was 86.9% in April 2005, with a 12% increase)

Africa and Near-East steady at 78.3%

 

The combined Air France/KLM figures:

 

Passenger's traffic increased 10% against only a 4.8% increase in capacity, therefore load-factors went up to 83.1% (up 3.9%; the total number of passangers for April 2006 increased 7.3% to 6.2 million :o

Cargo load-factor decreased slightly (-0.6%) to 67.5%, due to an increase in capacity of 2.1% versus 1.1 increase of actual cargo volume...

 

It's becoming more and more difficult for me to fly to Asia on-board KLM as a staff-member :angry: , but good for the combined company as a whole ;)

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Not really KLM cityhopper news, but here's an overview of the 777 fleet names:

 

KLM Boeing 777-206ER names:

 

BQA "Albert Plesman"

BQB "Borobudur"

BQC "Chichen-Itza"

BQD "Darjeeling Highway"

BQE "Epidaurus"

BQF "Ferrara City"

BQG "Galapagos Islands"

BQH "Hadrian's Wall"

BQI "Iguazu Falls"

BQK "Mount Kilimanjaro"

BQL "Litomysl Castle"

BQM "Machu Picchu"(testreg. was N5017Q)

BQN "Nahanni National Park"

BQO 35295 o/o

BQP 32721 o/o

BQR 35671 o/o

BQS o/o

BQT o/o

 

Interesting name on KLM B772ER fleet,Uncle Pieter :lol:If i'm not mistaken,Albert Plesman is the founder of KLM,right?

 

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If i'm not mistaken,Albert Plesman is the founder of KLM,right?

 

You're absolutely correct !!!

 

Colin, remember his copper bust between Terminals 2-3 at Schiphol ? ;)

 

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How many subsidary company KLM has? I found out there another one called KLM Alps. Operating using Dornier 328-110. It's quite nice turboprops too. :) Does Aero KLM included as another company?

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Adrian,

 

KLM alps not existing anymore; was sold to an Italian entrepeneur as Air Alps, but this company went down the drain last year :(

 

The following subsidiaries exist:

 

KLM cityhopper

Transavia.com

both 100%, and......

 

Martinair for 49%...

 

Guys,

 

For great financials news of the combined AF/KL-group, check following link:

 

https://www.klm.com/corporate/pci/portal_nl..._tcm6-35285.pdf

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Century City - Leasecompany ILFC will lease three used Boeing 767-300ER's to the Russian airline Aeroflot. These planes will be delivered in November 2006 and January and March 2007, resp. to Aeroflot and are currently operating by KLM with the registrations PH-BZH, PH-BZI and PH-BZK. The lease-contract for each aircraft will be for a period of 5 years, according ILFC.

These three aircraft will be added on top of the previous lease-agreement between Aeroflot and ILFC for 2 KLM 767's, registered PH-BZF and PH-BZG. KLM is currently phasing-out the 767-fleet in favour of aircraft of the Airbus A330-200 type. KLM was also leasing these 767's of ILFC.

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Sorry to ask a stupid question, does KLM uk still exist? I thought most (or all) KLM flights into and out of the UK are operated by this subsidiary and they fed UK passengers into KLM mainline via Amsterdam? How about flights operated into and out of LCY, do they provide the same level of inflight service (e.g. snack, drinks) as those in LHR? If I had a choice I would like to fly out of LCY, its closer to where I live and the airport is so small and manageable :-)

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Sorry to ask a stupid question, does KLM uk still exist?

 

H C,

 

KLMuk merged with KLM cityhopper, and is now operating as KLM cityhopper UK, although no real difference as all managed out of AMS (except some HR people)...the UK aircraft still sport the UK-flag on the nose part whereas the 'Dutch' ones, show a Dutch one next to the stairs...

LCY will be served by Fokker 50 aircraft; basically, you'll get the same KLM Economy Class service as out of Heathrow, just you should know you're flying a prop aircraft and not a jet (like 737's and 330's)

 

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H C,

 

KLMuk merged with KLM cityhopper, and is now operating as KLM cityhopper UK, although no real difference as all managed out of AMS (except some HR people)...the UK aircraft still sport the UK-flag on the nose part whereas the 'Dutch' ones, show a Dutch one next to the stairs...

LCY will be served by Fokker 50 aircraft; basically, you'll get the same KLM Economy Class service as out of Heathrow, just you should know you're flying a prop aircraft and not a jet (like 737's and 330's)

 

 

Uncle Pieter,

 

Does KLM Cityhopper UK operates F50 fleets only,or mixed fleet of F50,F70 and F100?

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Uncle Pieter,

 

Does KLM Cityhopper UK operates F50 fleets only,or mixed fleet of F50,F70 and F100?

 

Tamizi,

 

All jets are operated by the Dutch side of the company, and half the F50's are operated by the UK side; these 'british' F50's can be identified by the PH-.X. registrations, while the 'dutch' ones have the PH-KV. identifications ;) (K=KLM V=vijftig or fifty :rofl: )

So, when you fly down on PH-KVG it's a 'dutch' one, and while returning on PH-LXR it will be a 'british' one; crew-wise it's always mixed, so could be nationalities :rolleyes:

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LCY will be served by Fokker 50 aircraft; basically, you'll get the same KLM Economy Class service as out of Heathrow, just you should know you're flying a prop aircraft and not a jet (like 737's and 330's)

 

Thanks for the info Pieter!

 

Yes I know that I will be on a prop if I choose to fly out of LCY.... and this is one of the main reasons I want to use LCY! I felt 'privileged' being able to fly a turbo prop, especially in London where most flights are operated by jet! Funny thinking, I know... :)

 

Is KLM thinking of phasing out their F50 soon? Have they ordered any A318, or I just got it confused with AF...

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