yeadrian
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hmmm..... one panel missing will also make it international news...
I am begining to be concerned when an airline representative advocates that "unretracted gear" is treated as a joke and a "non issue".....
hmm......
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Capt Radzi,
Apart from the aircraft being grounded for engineering checks (intensive checks or similar checks?), Passengers rerouted, etc... (Is this still non issue? I am sure there are financial losses, great inconvenience to passengers inevitably due to safety)
Does MH treat this as somewhat urgent? Unretractable gears are not frequent occurance or they are just not important to be reported, hence the ignorance en masse (including yours truly) ?
Good thing you did not make it to the news, but if MH had a 747 scare akin to Qantas in the same time frame, you will be for sure be in the limelight..... headlines - maybe hero returning the aircraft to safety.....
i can always feel the landing gear being lowered during landing as a passenger, since the 767 is much bigger than 737, am i right to say that the vibration is more pronounced than a smaller aircraft?
If the landing gear is retracted but the door is not, will the disturbance to aerodynamics be any different?
(When the mountain is removed, the molehill is very visible
)Making a mountain out of a molehill.This whole "door open in flight" thing is a joke. I had a landing gear that was unable to remain retracted a few years ago. The mechanical lock was faulty; the gear went up with hydraulic power but once the elver was put to off and hydraulic power removed, the gear becomes extended again. I was enroute to BKI from KUL; not enough fuel to continue to BKI and too heavy for normal inflight return, so I left the gear down and descend with speedbrakes. The noise and vibration was, of course, much higher than normal. Some PA from the operating flightdeck crew will calm the situation and keep the passangers informed. Overall, it was a non-issue.
And no, I didn't make it to the news. Not even small local ones.
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They still don't get it that it's Qantas' own safety standard that is resulting in the jet issues - he is still blaming non Australians....
Gosh - I hope they don't go as low as scapegoat"ing" Qantas immigrant's/non australian staff's to blame for Qantas aircrafts issues...
"But he said any passenger perceptions of dropping safety standards on Qantas jets "is probably a message for Qantas that they need to have maintenance done by Australians in Australia"."
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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,2...267-661,00.html
BREAKING NEWS: A QANTAS flight bound for Melbourne made an emergency landing tonight after a door reportedly opened mid-flight.
The flight, believed to be QF692, took off from Adelaide at 6.08pm but turned around and landed safely 37 minutes later. There was confusion over what caused the emergency. Passengers said a door opened mid-flight, causing "chaos" in the cabin. But airline sources said the doors covering the wheel bay did not close properly after take-off. The aircraft turned around near Murray Bridge, about 60km from Adelaide, and landed safely at 6.45pm. A Boeing 737-800 usually flies the Adelaide to Melbourne leg. The aircraft remained at Adelaide Airport while passengers were transferred to another Melbourne flight.
A Qantas spokesperson refused to comment beyond confirming an incident had occurred on the flight.
The drama comes just three days after a mid-air emergency aboard a Qantas 747 on Friday.
A ruptured oxygen bottle is believed to have ripped a 3m hole in the side of QF30 from Hong Kong to Melbourne, forcing it to make an emergency landing in Manila. It was revealed yesterday a piece of metal from the bottle sliced into the cabin of the jet, just missing passengers.
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I can understand the uneasy sentiments some Aussies may have, its exactly the same thing that happened when Malaysia was instantly put in bad light as a scapegoat. This is an instant reaction by all (just like your concern to the posts here)
in fairness - the magnimity of media exposure in comparison (International Media against just MW forum - perhaps a little bit more understanding from our Aussie counterpart here please) Please understand the feelings of Malaysians as the Aussie media (or whoever that is responsible) generalized Malaysia on the whole (and Singapore the last time) So some of Malaysians may feel, hence some may respond "Australians" a point of reference.
To be fair, as a Malaysian I feel most of the threads here do not specifically bash Australians but the responsible party on the whole. It's easier to use "they" and "them" (some even use Australians) as a term of reference, this is a forum for enthusiasts - not anti Australians or anti Malaysians for that matter. It will be rather tedious for everyone to specifically mention the correct party involved, The Qantas Union or whoever that is specifically responsible in place of they and them. Its a forum filled with different people of different writing styles.
In the spirit of Malaysian Wings forum - everyone is entitled to their thoughts, expressions and writing styles (in decent decorum as a base). Misquoting specifically another forumer(me) has created unwarranted ill-feelings for another is part and parcel in a forum - it just needs clarifications BUT most importantly exercise caution before you quote someone.
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Nik - you are not being fair in quoting my comments that generalized Aussies - I would have said specifically or typed in "Australians" if I meant that.
"they" obviously meant Qantas (or to be specific now that you raised the issue - the party who wrote the circular that was posted here)
I have some family members in Australia too and do not appreciate if they said the same thing to us Malaysians...
In all fairness, Australian Aviation standards ARE higher than the required minimum standards for Airline compliance globally. But then again, so it is in Malaysia. At least for MH, our standards also far exceed the minimum required as laid out by our DCA, which is in itself higher than ICAO. The variable is in the self enforcement of these standards.While I do not appreciate what was said by the 'Senior QF Pilot' I do not think it is fair to generalise all Aussies as such. He is probably a poor uninformed lackey.
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is that carribean coast ? I have a friend who stay there.....
Yes of course/ Even at night also, every 5-10 minutes, you can hear the sound of the planes. Wow, cool.
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Guys - pardon my ignorance, may I know what happened to AFA??? Did I miss something out?
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although i must say the MH personalized foil cover on the hot meal is a nice touch, (not going to re-open a can of worms that taste will surpass expectation")
They should have labels in dual language air/water at the same prominence - realize that the small prints may have English(does it?) but at a glance, If I do not know Bahasa Malaysia - I will be laughing away that we call water "air".....
we have foreign visitors flying MH domestically and MH is an international carrier as well.....
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you are spot on right, they seem to think that their standard is highest in the world, surpassing "lower global minimum standards"
excerpt from post #62
The question is, would people mind flying in Australia under the global minimum standard or should we fight to retain our higher Australian standards?
The generations of pilots who have built and operate Australia's world's-best aviation system think we should.
That is why pilots and our engineering colleagues are battling right now to protect those higher Australian safety standards from being replaced with lower global minimum standards.In my view, it's a battle that is being lost.
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good one Naim.....
Maybe bottle 'Made in Malaysia'?
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what a bummer..... Garuda chosen over MH.... AF is doing exceptionally well in blocking MH.....
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They should also apologize for their baseless accusations on behalf of their trigger happy senior pilot...
media damage has been done...
Exploding oxygen tank one theory of QF30Article from: Sunday Herald Sun
Liam Houlihan and Shannon Deery
July 27, 2008 12:00am
QANTAS chief Geoff Dixon yesterday said he was "horrified" by a mid-air disaster that ripped a hole in a jumbo jet.
And Mr Dixon said the airline had no idea of the cause.
Mr Dixon held a conference in Sydney to apologise to passengers of QF30 as investigators hinted that an exploding oxygen tank could have been behind the accident.
"I'm sorry (passengers) were subjected to what was obviously such a frightening experience, but everyone is safe," he said.
"I was horrified. I think that this is a very, very serious incident. We are not downplaying it."
But many expressed dismay no one from Qantas was in Melbourne to meet them and apologise for their ordeal as they landed at the airport yesterday morning.
A global investigation was launched into what caused a giant hole in the Qantas 747-400 at 9000m.
An exploding oxygen tank or luggage item or puncture caused by a loose panel were cited as possible causes as experts rejected corrosion as being to blame.
Officers from Australian, Philippines and US transport bodies converged on the plane in Manila last night.
Among them were Qantas investigators and four Australian Transport Safety Bureau officers.
"It is early days and we just don't know what we're dealing with here, other than we've got a hole in the side of an aeroplane," ATSB spokesman Ian Brokenshire said.
Civil Aviation Safety Authority spokesman Peter Gibson said: "There's a lot of talk it could have been an oxygen bottle blast, which would go up into the cabin."
Qantas head of engineering David Cox said all of the plane's servicing was undertaken in Australia, adding he did not rule out returning the plane to the skies. "I would think it's repairable," he said. Passengers told of their worries about the 17year-old jumbo. David Saunders, of St Kilda, said he had a bad feeling about the plane.
"The first thing I saw on the plane was a panel hanging off," he said. "Then I saw the seal on the door looked old and worn, then I noticed there was water coming through the ceiling.
"I thought I was going to die. I thought we were going down into the sea. I just grabbed my passport out of my bag and put it in my pocket so that if my body was found they could identify it quicker."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,2...221-661,00.html
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more bad reviews for Malaysia.....
Agence France-Presse - 7/26/2008 3:19 AM GMT (excerpt)
Sydney's Daily Telegraph reported that engineers discovered a large amount of corrosion in the jumbo during a major refurbishment earlier this year.
Under the front page headline "Rust Bucket", the newspaper said the 17-year-old jet received a new interior at Melbourne's Avalon airport in March and said aviation sources had told it engineers had found a lot of corrosion.
A senior Qantas pilot told the Telegraph that Friday's drama may be related to the airline's decision to outsource aircraft maintenance to Malaysia.
"This could well be the direct result of Qantas having stand-in engineers, or from outsourcing maintenance to Malaysia," the unnamed pilot told the newspaper. "It has been talked about a lot here and we have been told to be extra vigilant when you walk around the aircraft.
"With Qantas outsourcing maintenance to Malaysia, (it) is certainly worrying a lot of us pilots.".
The Boeing 747-400 took off from London with 346 passengers and 19 crew on board and was heading to Melbourne after a stopover in Hong Kong when the incident occurred.
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Guys, where do you normally spot (Bus depot??) and what time do you guys go ah - this sat or sun?
I want to drop in and see you pro's in action!!!
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commissions from the sale, sell back get commission, resell again get more commission.....
somebody keep the commission.....
2. Again quote from the report:
"Chief financial officer Datuk Tengku Azmil Zahruddin said MAS will acquire the the plane directly, and will partially sell adn lease back from Penerbangan
Malaysia Berhad."
My question is,from my what i understand, if MAS will own all the 35 aircrafts, why MAS should sell it again??and what mean by "lease bacj from PMB"??
Previously, i though MAS will buy some and some PMB will buy it and MAS will lease from PMB..
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with a lot of new planes coming, good time for livery "refreshing" (maybe another special livery to welcome the new baby boeings...) we have real seen MH738 before (remember the 2 leased 738's for a short period back then)
I said it before in another thread, gonna say it again.... imagine if the widely photographed and loved bunga raya and heliconia liveries are applied on all 738's....
KLIA will be the most colourful airport in the world.... first interior - now exterior.....
Pening or "Happening"???
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out of curiosity - are those 2 Airliners.net gentlemen from Boeing, Airbus or from MH that we can depend on for news?
at this juncture I would rather digest IJ's NST interview - should any thing differs or should there a wide body purchase announcement in farnborough - then he has his credibility at play.A given thing - corporate figures will not contradict what they say in the press.
Rumours are spreading in A.Net that MH will announce an order of widebody aircrafts during the Farnborough Air Show soon. CHRISBA773ER and NYC777 seem convinced that MH is holding the biggest secret in its chest - possibly an order of 23 B787-8s. They also predicted that MH will order some additional A380s and D7 is going to announce an order from Airbus. -
738 - with or without winglets
We already have previous examples from MH - remember the 2 wet leased B738 from Travel service (2006 I think) One is with winglets and the other one without winglets.
I prefer with winglets of course, definitely, for sure 200% prefer with winglets......
(Flashback) I jumped with excitement when I saw the b738 with winglets parked near satelite building while we were taking off.... i was so excited to see a MH 738 with the sexy winglets jutting out then.... the winglets gives the 737 a very elegant and sexy look....
can check out the pictures on a.net
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it's going to be tough helm for Dato IJ with so much of challenges upcoming...
I also wonder why he accepted the renewal....
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agree with Mushrif - both are somewhat similar media organization (do we classify NST and Bernama as non specialist medias??) how la macam itu?
btw - from a source in NST - the piece from NST is a direct interview itself with IJ when he was in penang.....
NST - 738's (35-as reported widely in medias) +20 options
Bernama - 738's - 55
looks the same to me, bernama is a brief media piece whilst NST detailed it down further...
I would NEVER read too deep into any airline/aircraft related reports by the Malaysian or any non-specialist media.For instance, you get the "Airbus 747-600" type statements. And on MH getting "second-hand planes from financially troubled airlines", I would actually read that as MH taking over earlier delivery slots of new planes from airlines which are deferring delivery due to financial constraints.
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a pre-empt though - visa application, the Chinese Embassy is monitoring closely on visa approval and Malaysia is also in their "strict" list on visa application.
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Idris to pilot MAS for 3 more years?
DATUK Seri Idris Jala is set to stay on as the managing director and chief executive officer of Malaysian Airline System Bhd (MAS) for another three years.
His existing contract expires at the end of this year.
Staying on means that he will have to steer the company through what he calls a perfect storm: oil prices have hit record highs, the global economy is slowing and competition is getting tougher.
Idris said the fresh contract talks between the government, its investment arm Khazanah Nasional Bhd and MAS directors have been ongoing. "We have reached a mutual agreement," he told reporters after delivering a lecture organised by the alumni body of the Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM) in Penang yesterday.
The 50-year-old turnaround specialist graduated from USM in 1982 with a bachelor's degree in development/management.
There has been little to suggest that Idris would not keep his job after changing the fortunes of the national carrier.
Idris was appointed to his current position in December 2005 after MAS posted two successive quarters of losses. It lost RM1.3 billion that year.
MAS now has RM5 billion in cash and it intends to reduce costs by RM630 million this year.
It plans to buy second-hand planes from financially troubled airlines.
"The airline business is expected to go into turmoil over the next few years and we are hoping for distressed sales of aircraft," he added.
He told reporters that although MAS is holding off its option to order 20 B737-800 aircraft, there would be no change to the orders for the 20 ATR 72-500 turbo propeller planes the company placed last year.
MAS' wholly-owned subsidiaries Firefly and MASwings are each set to get 10 new ATRs, which are currently being sold by its manufacturer Aerei da Trasporto Regionale (ATR) for US$18.5 million (RM60 million) each.
MAS will use its own funds and borrowings to buy the ATR planes.
Asked on the status of the delivery of the six Airbus A380 jumbo passenger jets, Idris said the first A380 will arrive in January 2011 while the other five will be delivered on a monthly basis during the first half of 2011.
MAS was originally scheduled to take delivery of its first A380 in July last year and its sixth in May 2009.
However, delivery dates have been delayed after European aircraft maker Airbus began facing production delays since 2005 for its flagship superjumbo programme.
NST - Business
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it's nice and kinda "manly" looking livery, like the engine colours contrasting with the bright red, really brings it out. variety in livery is the spice of life for aviation enthusiasts...
(Although some of the airbus with the regular livery seems to spot a lot of peeling paint coming out on their vertical tails.....) at one time i see 3 aircrafts with the same wear and tear.
anyone seen the VMY Blue tailed airbus? it's been sometime since a picture of that gal has surfaced...
MAS aircrew unwritten perks
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Hi Mansor, there is this thing called interliner/crew rates...
depending on the hotel management and country, some give 50% discount off their published rates, whereby the hotel who houses crew layovers will have a better rate for the airline staff on holidays. This is again subject to the hotels discretion and decision. a valid crew id is normally required by the hotel at check in but it is best to agree on the rate at reservations (if you are on a holiday)
say you are on layover (on duty) certain hotels that houses the crews may accord discounts on your food and beverage consumption - best to check it out at check in.normally a hotel staff will announce it. Some hotels even have special crew facilities, like a lounge, etc.... and if you are the pilot some even get suite upgrades. Whatever it is, best check with the hotel to ascertain discount(s)...
some individual restaurant outlets may also offer unofficial undocumented discounts to crews (to show appreciation-maybe it is a frequent haunt of crews - business promotion as well) your senior crews will normally have the tips and info. Not to mention the discounts for local tours occasionally...