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AirAsia : Bases outside KUL/DMK


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#1 Holger

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 11:52 PM

AirAsia Malaysia

 

8 A320 Kota Kinabalu

6 A320 Kuching

6 A320 Johor Bahru

4 A320 Penang

2 A320 Langkawi

 

Thats from the data based on the flights for November.

The jets change between the flights to and from Kuala Lumpur.

I will complet it for the other countries during the next time.

 



#2 JuliusWong

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 07:39 AM

Good info. You're a nice addition to the forum Holger. Keep up the good work.

#3 flee

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 10:07 AM

Thanks for the compilation, Holger. It is interesting info for avgeeks!



#4 Holger

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 06:27 PM

Maybe soon 10 A320 in Kota Kinabalu instead of 8?

 

http://www.theborneo...nt-airasia-hub/

 

 

“As it is, we are flying in eight aircraft and if everything goes well, we are looking at 10 aircraft in total by January 2019.

 

 

By the end of the year, three more international destinations from KK will be added on top of existing 295 weekly flights.

 

 

“As for domestic routes, we are currently in discussion with the Malaysian Aviation Commission (MAVCOM), to add routes to Sibu and Bintulu in addition to our existing routes to Sandakan, Tawau, Miri and Kuching,”

 

 



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Posted 07 August 2018 - 07:35 PM

Maybe soon 10 A320 in Kota Kinabalu instead of 8?
 
http://www.theborneo...nt-airasia-hub/
 
 


3 more destinations or just a recycled ones? There are quite a few in the past - DPS,CEB,MFM and CGK. He also mentioned BTU and SBW - possible candidates?

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 08:16 PM

I guess BKK (commencing next week) could well be one of the three  :)



#7 Holger

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 08:27 PM

Bangkok is bookable since weeks and will start at the 16th august operated by Thai AirAsia.

 

He speaks from 3 more International destinations starting in december! Plus Sibu and Bintulu.

 

Now in this moment not less than 8 jets are on the way from South Korea to BKI. All by korean airlines!

I think Seoul could be one destination..around 5h flighttime, possible with the A320.

 

the other 2 ones should be China, maybe Shanghai and Changsha?



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Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:04 PM

Yes, the mind boggles as to why AK has not dipped its feet into BKI-SEL all this while  :)

I'm guessing anywhere MH's 738 can reach, AK's 320(neo) also can do ?  Hopefully they can do a better show to Tokyo and/or Perth than what the incumbent has mustered all these years



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Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:55 PM

Yes, the mind boggles as to why AK has not dipped its feet into BKI-SEL all this while  :)
I'm guessing anywhere MH's 738 can reach, AK's 320(neo) also can do ?  Hopefully they can do a better show to Tokyo and/or Perth than what the incumbent has mustered all these years

I think that is what TF is planning to do when he said he wanted T2 all to himself. Bring in those A333 and hubbing more A320 to feed their widebodies service at BKI from all over Borneo. MH and BI will be hit greatly if AK Group do so.

TF ain't looking at A320 service to SEL from BKI, he is gunning for A333 operation. Big time!

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 10:19 PM

One information i could found and then maybe one of the three new international destinations:

 

AirAsia have traffic rights for daily BKI-NANJING!

 

So far the AirAsia-Group serves Nanjing only out of DMK.



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Posted 07 August 2018 - 10:41 PM

I think that is what TF is planning to do when he said he wanted T2 all to himself. Bring in those A333 and hubbing more A320 to feed their widebodies service at BKI from all over Borneo. MH and BI will be hit greatly if AK Group do so.

TF ain't looking at A320 service to SEL from BKI, he is gunning for A333 operation. Big time!

 

Not only that, operate from BKI T2 saves fuel because after they land from Rwy 02, turn into Taxiway A in idle highspeed and left turn on apron to park; minimum power use. 3 mins in total from touchdown to shutdown. Departure special request RWY 20 departure from Taxiway B during less or low traffic. Save even more fuel than operating on 1 engine until pre-line up. Very the flight operation wet dream of his.



#12 Sri Ramani K.

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:59 PM

AirAsia Malaysia

 

8 A320 Kota Kinabalu

6 A320 Kuching

6 A320 Johor Bahru

4 A320 Penang

2 A320 Langkawi

 

Thats from the data based on the flights for November.

The jets change between the flights to and from Kuala Lumpur.

I will complet it for the other countries during the next time.

 

 

BKI - 8

PEN - 4
KCH - 5
JHB - 5

LGK - 0



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Posted 08 August 2018 - 12:18 AM

 

BKI - 8

PEN - 4
KCH - 5
JHB - 5

LGK - 0

 

Sorry thats not right!

I made the utilisation plan for every base.

For example Kuching departures in the morning for november:

 

0600 0655 0720 0810 KCH BTU x x x x x x x

0610 0735 0800 0925 KCH BKI x x x x x x x

0700 0740 0805 0845 KCH SBW x x x x x x x

0700 0755 0820 0910 KCH BTU x x x x x x x

0710 0850 0915 1100 KCH KUL x x x x x x x

And number 6:

0700 0830 1415 1545 KCH SIN x   x   x   x

0800 0935 1520 1650 KCH SIN   x   x   x  


Edited by Holger, 08 August 2018 - 12:21 AM.


#14 flee

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 12:20 AM

Yes, the mind boggles as to why AK has not dipped its feet into BKI-SEL all this while  :)

I'm guessing anywhere MH's 738 can reach, AK's 320(neo) also can do ?  Hopefully they can do a better show to Tokyo and/or Perth than what the incumbent has mustered all these years

He has not got the deal for BKI T2 that he wants - so he cannot execute expansion plans. But it may be too late - the low fuel prices of the past 18 months is now at an end. So launching new routes will be more difficult as low fares will not be so low now... 



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Posted 08 August 2018 - 12:46 AM

 

Sorry thats not right!

I made the utilisation plan for every base.

For example Kuching departures in the morning for november:

 

0600 0655 0720 0810 KCH BTU x x x x x x x

0610 0735 0800 0925 KCH BKI x x x x x x x

0700 0740 0805 0845 KCH SBW x x x x x x x

0700 0755 0820 0910 KCH BTU x x x x x x x

0710 0850 0915 1100 KCH KUL x x x x x x x

And number 6:

0700 0830 1415 1545 KCH SIN x   x   x   x

0800 0935 1520 1650 KCH SIN   x   x   x  

Holger, Sri Ramani K is absolutely right! He is THE Airasia authority here!  :)



#16 JuliusWong

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:28 AM

He has not got the deal for BKI T2 that he wants - so he cannot execute expansion plans. But it may be too late - the low fuel prices of the past 18 months is now at an end. So launching new routes will be more difficult as low fares will not be so low now... 

Datuk TF can always add processing fee, admin fee, convenience fee,fuel surcharge fee, hike the baggage fee, up Santan, KLIA2 fee to cover for oil price hike.... Hehe!

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 05:46 PM

Yes, the mind boggles as to why AK has not dipped its feet into BKI-SEL all this while  :)

I'm guessing anywhere MH's 738 can reach, AK's 320(neo) also can do ?  Hopefully they can do a better show to Tokyo and/or Perth than what the incumbent has mustered all these years

 

I would like to think that they have done up the research and found to be not profitable.  Easter and Jeju are both LCC and they have flights from ICN & PUS daily now.  So LCC with the right mechanism might work.  Maybe AK lacks presence in Korea.

 

Also, noted Korean backpackers are pretty rare in KK.  They get the VIP treatment i.e. being chauffeured around without much interaction with the locals.  From landing to departing.



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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:17 PM

 

I would like to think that they have done up the research and found to be not profitable.  Easter and Jeju are both LCC and they have flights from ICN & PUS daily now.  So LCC with the right mechanism might work.  Maybe AK lacks presence in Korea.

 

Also, noted Korean backpackers are pretty rare in KK.  They get the VIP treatment i.e. being chauffeured around without much interaction with the locals.  From landing to departing.

I know they enjoy staying at Shangri-La Rasa Ria for 1-2weeks stay and never really leaving the resort only for kundasang or island hopping. The room rates have jacked up 200% compared to 2010 and sometimes there's no room available.



#19 JuliusWong

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:00 PM

I know they enjoy staying at Shangri-La Rasa Ria for 1-2weeks stay and never really leaving the resort only for kundasang or island hopping. The room rates have jacked up 200% compared to 2010 and sometimes there's no room available.


Amway South Korea annual incentive trip has visited KK a number of time. All their Diamonds and Crown Ambassador ranking distributors deserved the best. No wonder they need KE B744 sometimes.

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 08:07 PM

 

I would like to think that they have done up the research and found to be not profitable.  Easter and Jeju are both LCC and they have flights from ICN & PUS daily now.  So LCC with the right mechanism might work.  Maybe AK lacks presence in Korea.

 

Also, noted Korean backpackers are pretty rare in KK.  They get the VIP treatment i.e. being chauffeured around without much interaction with the locals.  From landing to departing.

 

believe it or not, Korean $$ pretty hard flow into our market... from A-Z covered by Korean company. ground tour company, tour guide, souvenir stop, Island base(include Sapi/Mamutik/Mantanani, they managed to find their own corner), Mangrove tour, rafting (bajak the whole river), restaurant and more... all this business manage by their own ppl. beside hiring some locals for the works. they rather to hire a local tour guide seat in only, without the actual service. the only thing they can't conquer the business is Hotel, tour bus, and the airport maybe. :P 

 






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