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Only four out of RMAF's 28 Russian fighter jets can fly


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#1 flee

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 10:19 PM

Sheesh, we have virtually no meaningful numbers of operational fighters!

 

See story:

https://www.thestar....r-jets-can-fly/



#2 JuliusWong

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 11:10 PM

Are these the one we bought in return we get to put a space tourist?

#3 Mohd Suhaimi Fariz

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 07:38 AM

The current government played politics with the defence budget when they were in the opposition, and now the feign surprise at the state of the armed forces?

#4 Vicknesh PS

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 08:16 AM

I guess that is why the Flankers didn't follow the Hornets to Australia for Pitch Black 2018.

Our pilots are not getting their flying hours in.

Heard the amphibious Maritime birds have not flown in 2 months either.

#5 KK Lee

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 10:54 AM

Russian equipment is known to have short life cycle and heavy on maintenance. With RM connected in supply chain, spare parts price could be exorbitant. Guess the 4 jets are number needed for fly past display.



#6 jahur

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 11:14 AM

Russian fighters while performance are top notch over the Americans are usually heavy on maintenance cost and operating cost infact rmaf prefers to operate the f-18s over them and considered even taking kuwaits older f-18c to replace some of russian jets.

Limited budget allocated to rmaf by prev gov brought on with the pricey maintenance, rmaf rather upgrade one of the a400ms and operate the entire a400m fleet while they've deferred maintenance schedule on the su30s. This results in many grounded or not combat ready sukhoi jets. The aging mig-29 are supposed to be taken out from rmaf fleet by 2015 but gov can't even commit to the mrca program but even then the mig-29 are not that air worthy no more.

We're tracking on with the Philippines now with our very weak air Force even Indonesia and Thailand is way ahead of us in air Force assets. The new government has to do something.

Edited by jahur, 01 August 2018 - 11:15 AM.


#7 flee

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 11:24 AM

They really need to study possible JVs with the Russians or Indians for the maintenance of the Russian jets. Also look at how the former Warsaw Pact countries maintain their Mig 29s. There are still a lot of top notch Migs flying for those air forces.


We're tracking on with the Philippines now with our very weak air Force even Indonesia and Thailand is way ahead of us in air Force assets. The new government has to do something.

So, we are surrounded (Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore)!!!



#8 Waiping

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 11:35 AM

What about the hawks and other assets?

On a lighter note, if Indonesia ever get the F22, they would be rightfully called the Indoraptor.

#9 jahur

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 11:58 AM

What about the hawks and other assets?

On a lighter note, if Indonesia ever get the F22, they would be rightfully called the Indoraptor.

Believe only 8-9 Hawks are active the remaining have parts in need of replacement. The only jets that are well maintained are the f-18d hornets and you always see them being actively promoted over the sukhois lol.

Edited by jahur, 01 August 2018 - 11:59 AM.


#10 Izanee

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 12:31 PM

Typical Malaysian government false economy - buy more of the cheaper ones rather than the expensive ones (F/A18) which last longer. Theres a reason why they are more expensive. In the long run, you save more

#11 flee

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:07 PM

Typical Malaysian government false economy - buy more of the cheaper ones rather than the expensive ones (F/A18) which last longer. Theres a reason why they are more expensive. In the long run, you save more

The F/A-18 may not be that much more expensive - it is widely used by many air forces and navies in the world and has had a long production run. As such, spare parts are widely available and maintenance is easier.



#12 Mohd Suhaimi Fariz

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 02:52 PM

Typical Malaysian government false economy - buy more of the cheaper ones rather than the expensive ones (F/A18) which last longer. Theres a reason why they are more expensive. In the long run, you save more

 

Well given the political climate vis a vis the opposition at the time, is it any wonder?



#13 Samuel Chy

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 04:28 PM

Typical Malaysian government false economy - buy more of the cheaper ones rather than the expensive ones (F/A18) which last longer. Theres a reason why they are more expensive. In the long run, you save more

 

i believe it's not typical malaysian styles. took the China van as examples, why do they restrict the number for Hiace and Urvan production/imports, and encourage more China Van coming in instead.  



#14 Waiping

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 06:13 PM

I also doubt it. It didn't stop them from getting a second jet for personal use, so.

#15 flee

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 11:46 PM

I also doubt it. It didn't stop them from getting a second jet for personal use, so.

Yes, the govt. does pretty much what it wants - otherwise, the 1MDB scandal would not have gotten so huge! 

 

The Su-30MKMs were ordered during a time when the BN govt. had an overwhelming majority after the 2004 GE.



#16 JuliusWong

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 06:25 AM

I also doubt it. It didn't stop them from getting a second jet for personal use, so.

Oh the burn.....

#17 Waiping

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 12:24 PM

So the F5E is no longer salvageable? I think the Taiwanese still flying theirs.

#18 Izanee

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 12:41 PM

Flee, it was 1993 that they bought the MiG29 and the F/A 18 hornet. I am 100% sure that they bought more MiG29 because they were much cheaper and the Russians were happy to sell them missiles etc etc. The USA would only allow them certain weapons systems (whereas Singapore could get the more advanced ones as they were much closer allies)..

Now as you said, the MiG29 maintenance costs are much more - so overall false economy. They were bought during Dr Ms time


The F/A-18 may not be that much more expensive - it is widely used by many air forces and navies in the world and has had a long production run. As such, spare parts are widely available and maintenance is easier.



#19 BC Tam

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 01:09 PM

So the F5E is no longer salvageable? I think the Taiwanese still flying theirs.

Don't give them ideas - may end up resurrecting the Skyhawks instead :D

#20 Waiping

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 04:28 PM

Don't give them ideas - may end up resurrecting the Skyhawks instead :D

 

Didn't some of the engines went missing, only to be found under maintenance awhile back.  






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