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MAB Proposed 25 New Widebody Aircraft Purchase in 2017


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#21 Mr.Bandit

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 08:26 PM

its a very cramped in Y class

Unless they do just like JAL done on their 789. Super comfy and spacious.



#22 flee

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 08:29 PM

its a very cramped in Y class

Yes, in 3-3-3 configuration it is. But in low density configurations like ANA's, it is much better!


I suspect that if MH orders it, the Y cabin will be 3-3-3.



#23 Lim Kar Yong

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:43 PM

its a very cramped in Y class

 

Having flown 787 in a 3-3-3 configuration, it is very cramped - somehow it feels worse than the 3-4-3 configuration of 777 and D7's 3-3-3 in A330. I don't think I want to take 787 long haul. 

Having said all this, I have to contend that the future of Y class will be LCC-ish. What to do - cannot afford the front cabin ....


 



#24 jahur

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 10:50 PM

Doubt mab will be getting the b787 though im rooting for it. Commonality transition between the a380 and a330 and upcoming a350 is already there, it could save them a lot of money if they get the a330neo.



#25 flee

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 11:01 PM

Doubt mab will be getting the b787 though im rooting for it. Commonality transition between the a380 and a330 and upcoming a350 is already there, it could save them a lot of money if they get the a330neo.

I tend to agree - I believe that Boeing is kept in the bid to ensure that Airbus gives them a competitive price for the A350/A330Neo.

 

A small airline like MAB should try to keep their fleet simple to reduce operating costs. There is also the safety aspect too - fewer aircraft types also mean that employees are not distracted by so many issues on each type. KISS principle applies!



#26 Mr.Bandit

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 11:37 AM

According to CAPA again, MAB intend to increase seat capacity of 738s from 160/166 to 178 by reducing 1 row business seat and introducing new regional J class on 738 with wifi connectivity and 189 seats for all-economy configuration without wifi. And transferring some of 738 to Maswings.

Why don't MAB transfer some of its international flights from BKI to Maswings when MH intends to transfer 738 to Maswings and soley focusing at KUL-BKI trunk route. It is easier to streamline operation and connectivity with domestic sector in East Malaysia.

#27 FrancisL

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 06:43 PM

I hope its the A330. Love the 2-4-2 seating as I normally fly with wife. Used to love the 767 2-3-2 as well. MAS 777 2-5-2 was also good. Never liked the 3-3-3 or 3-4-3



#28 Tamizi Hj Tamby

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 07:07 PM

Hopefully the plan of adding 737 for MASwings in 2017 becoming a reality.



#29 GeO

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 12:29 AM

yeah, voting for 787, i'm already A330phobia...

Im voting for 787 as well.



#30 Josh T

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 01:30 AM

I'll take the A330 over the 787. Been on the 787 twice already and I really don't like it at all.

#31 Mr.Bandit

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 06:47 AM

The difference between A339Neo to A359 is marginally USD 20 million less, while B789 to A333 is roughly  around 5 million extra.  Transition costs between 737 MAX and Dreamliner, can be reduced and leaving alone A380 to A350. Window shading factor is a wow, no headache for crew to ask the passenger to pull up. From technical aspect, B787 should provides better comfort in term of air-conditioning and jet lag from lower cabin altitude. A condition that provides invisible comfort. Since it's looking for widebody replacement, i'm voting for B787-9/10 Dreamliner. But MAB is not looking at this, period :crazy: .



#32 flee

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 08:11 AM

I'll take the A330 over the 787. Been on the 787 twice already and I really don't like it at all.

Me too. The 787 feels decidedly cramped. The benefits of lower altitude cabin pressure does not make it any more comfortable for me. Comfort is inferior to the A380 too.

#33 Sandeep G

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 09:07 AM

What 787 flights have u guys taken? JL/NH/TG or JQ/TZ??

#34 geoff.leo

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 11:03 AM

I always thought that MAS should have retained the 777s until they figured out their long term widebody replacement plans.

 

I guess it was understandable why they were so eager to get rid of them. But a refurbished set of 777s would have addressed their current capacity issues.

 

Moving forward, I don't think MAS has the economics of scale to have both the 787 and 350. It would be either one, and I think looking at where MAS is right now, the 350 would suit them best. Maybe throw in a few 300neos too.



#35 RaymondT

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 11:26 AM

Me too. The 787 feels decidedly cramped. The benefits of lower altitude cabin pressure does not make it any more comfortable for me. Comfort is inferior to the A380 too.

Not just only cramp, but also the position/location of the IFE box that makes an already cramp aircraft layout feels even worse! And while 3-3-3 is fine for the middle row, it sucks for the window seat users. Give me the A330/340's 2-4-2 any time of the day, thank you very much. Better for when travelling as couples too!



#36 David.W

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 11:57 AM

will the A330NEO have lower cabin altitude like the 787?



#37 Mohd Suhaimi Fariz

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 12:59 PM

will the A330NEO have lower cabin altitude like the 787?


No because it's basically an A330 with a new engine type. Need a carbon fibre fuselage to enjoy the lower cabin altitude.

#38 Hon Kit

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 01:59 PM

Basically it comes to configuration. I prefer 2-4-2 config on a330 compared to 3-3-3 787.

Been on NH/QR 787-8 and it's cramp.

So if MH to maintain 2-4-2 config on their future widebodies I think I'm fine with that.

#39 RaymondT

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 09:53 PM

Basically it comes to configuration. I prefer 2-4-2 config on a330 compared to 3-3-3 787.

Been on NH/QR 787-8 and it's cramp.

So if MH to maintain 2-4-2 config on their future widebodies I think I'm fine with that.

 

The A350 will most likely be a 3-3-3 configuration.



#40 S V Choong

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 10:40 PM

What 787 flights have u guys taken? JL/NH/TG or JQ/TZ??

 

HU - Hainan Airlines 787-8 for me :).  The interior feels like a Chinese restaurant in the West.

 

I don't feel it's cramp at all


Edited by S V Choong, 04 March 2017 - 10:42 PM.





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