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AirAsia X Orders 10 Airbus A350-900 + 5 Option at Paris Air Show 2009


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#1 flee

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 11:13 PM

By Siva Govindasamy

AirAsia X, the Malaysia-based long-haul low-cost airline, is likely to place an order for the Airbus A350 shortly as part of its expansion plans.

The carrier, an associate of Southeast Asian short-haul low-cost airline AirAsia, had been deliberating between the A350 and the Boeing 787. However, AirAsia Group CEO Tony Fernandes says that it has made a decision.

"We have pretty must settled on the A350 and an announcement is imminent," says Fernandes. "It is clearer in our mind that the A350 is a replacement for the [Airbus] A340s. It can last longer on the 4-8h mark that is AirAsia X's focus."

He did not say how many aircraft would be ordered, but AirAsia X has said before that it could buy up to 25 aircraft. A timeline for the delivery of the A350s has not been established.

AirAsia X will eventually have a fleet mix of Airbus A330s and A350s, says Fernandes, who added in an interview with Airline Business that this would help it to serve the the bulk of its growth markets that are within a 4-8h mark out of Kuala Lumpur. This includes destinations in Japan, South Korea, Australia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, India and China.

AirAsia has a 16% stake in the long-haul operation. Aero Ventures, which Fernandes started with other prominent Malaysians and Air Canada's Robert Milton, owns 48% of the long-haul operation. The other investors are Richard Branson's Virgin Group [16%], Bahrain's Manara [10%] and Japan's Orix [10%].

"AirAsia X is a wonderful addition; it brings the brand to another level. Look, it is sexier flying to London and Melbourne than Bandung," says Fernandes.

"But without AirAsia's short-haul market and the connectivity to Southeast Asia it offers, there would be no AirAsia X. That is why it will be hard for anyone else to emulate it. Look at Oasis Hong Kong - what else did they offer apart from flights to London? Is it any surprise that they had to shut down?"


Source: http://www.flightglo...s-imminent.html

#2 C.Foo

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 05:12 PM

Which type -800 -900 -1000. I think AK should take the 787 as it would look stunning in AK colours drinks.gif

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 07:40 PM

QUOTE (C.Foo @ Jun 5 2009, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which type -800 -900 -1000. I think AK should take the 787 as it would look stunning in AK colours drinks.gif

For that we will have to wait for the official announcement - maybe at the Paris Air Show later this month.

B787 is a nice plane and it comes into market earlier too. But it will probably cost more. A further complication is the crew needed to operate the plane will need additional training and certification since the B787 is different from D7's current A330-340's - all that adds up to cost. I think it will probably cost less to intro the A350 as compared to the B787. Low cost carriers like to shy away from unnecessary costs.

Edited by flee, 05 June 2009 - 07:41 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2009 - 08:33 PM

Great news indeed clapping.gif
Go AK!

#5 BC Tam

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 08:47 PM

QUOTE (flee @ Jun 5 2009, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Low cost carriers like to shy away from unnecessary costs.

I believe the principle of shying away from unnecessary costs is not exclusive to LCC's smile.gif
Nor to the airline industry either

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 08:51 PM

QUOTE (C.Foo @ Jun 5 2009, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which type -800 -900 -1000. I think AK should take the 787 as it would look stunning in AK colours drinks.gif


Airlines don't buy aircraft based on their looks.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE (Radzi @ Jun 5 2009, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Airlines don't buy aircraft based on their looks.

How true, otherwise the mighty dugong would have an even less impressive order list than it already is smile.gif
And let us not get started on the Shorts Skyvan either rolleyes.gif

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 09:47 PM

QUOTE (Radzi @ Jun 5 2009, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Airlines don't buy aircraft based on their looks.


True but I can't help LOL. rofl.gif

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:18 PM

The AirAsia group could easily become larger than MAS in terms of fleet with this order. 175 A320 for AirAsia (I know it's split between the Thai and Indo associates but it was AK that placed the order), 25 A330 and now 25 A350 for AirAsiaX.

I think AK already has more of the A320 stationed in Malaysia than MH with their B737. Now if this order does go through D7's long haul fleet would also be larger than MH in terms of number of frames.

Profitability, AirAsia possibly triumphs over MAS. AK reported profits going up 26% compared to Q1 last year.

Could it also be that AK might be the largest airline out of KLIA? I can't find the break down of figures from MAHB but the other day, I read in Forbes that "AirAsia accounted for 44 percent of passenger traffic at Malaysia's main airport during the quarter."

http://www.forbes.co.../ap6474025.html

Tony Fernandes was previously quoted saying "it is my goal that we, AirAsia, become bigger than Singapore Airlines and carry more passengers. In my opinion, it might come true, I think he's on track.

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 11:42 AM

believed that AA will swap some of its order for A330s to the newer A350s and not 25 A330s and 25 A350s. And AA in near future may have more planes than SIA (of course then more than MH for sure) but in terms of capacity it will still be short of SQ's bec AA main fleet size compromises the much smaller A320s and some perhaps 35 A330s/A350s - whilst SQ fleet compromises of heavy-weights like the 773ERs,and A380s and incl the A333s and future A350s n B787s.

#11 flee

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 03:03 PM

The A350 is actually the next generation A330/340. It has the range to do the KUL-STN route and beyond plus it carries the same number of pax as the current A330/340 planes that are in D7's fleet. So whichever variant is chosen will depend on the capacity that D7 desires. Note that D7 also carries cargo on the STN flights to help the flights make economic sense. As such, they might also have evaluated what cargo they can carry with the A350.

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 03:50 PM

QUOTE (Mohd. Helmi @ Jun 5 2009, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Could it also be that AK might be the largest airline out of KLIA? I can't find the break down of figures from MAHB but the other day, I read in Forbes that "AirAsia accounted for 44 percent of passenger traffic at Malaysia's main airport during the quarter."


As of 2008, MH market share at KLIA accounted 38.4% while AK 21.1%. But if we talk about AirAsia Group (AK,FD,QZ,D7) it accounted 27.13%. MH still dominated KLIA. AK, FD, QZ and D7 is under different entity. That is why they don't mix-up the figure.

#13 KK Lee

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 06:04 PM

If D7 order A350; politically MH choice of WB will be limited to 787? Or may be MH is to beat AK in announcing their WB order?

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Edited by KK Lee, 07 June 2009 - 06:06 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2009 - 06:19 PM

QUOTE (KK Lee @ Jun 7 2009, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If D7 order A350; politically MH choice of WB will be limited to 787? Or may be MH is to beat AK in announcing their WB order?

Or may be MH is again deferring their WB order, until such time that manufacturers A & B are in position to commit to A350 and B787 replacement models tongue.gif

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 06:40 PM

I hope that air asia goes for th e A350 XWB and not the A350, SQ did not want to take those aircraft when offered because there wa no difference to the current A330 as the A350 has the same fuselage as the A330. But not the A350XWB as its a new plane all together.,with wider cabin.

Some one please tell Tony. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Edited by jadivindra, 07 June 2009 - 06:41 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2009 - 07:24 PM

I believe the original A350 design has been abandoned and replaced with the new A350 XWB (what a mouthful imho !)
Makes very poor logic if two new programmes are being developed with same design goals and same designations smile.gif

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 07:40 PM

QUOTE (KK Lee @ Jun 7 2009, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If D7 order A350; politically MH choice of WB will be limited to 787? Or may be MH is to beat AK in announcing their WB order?

drinks.gif

MH would be foolish to watch what D7 is doing and letting it affect its own decisions. For D7, it is quite an easy decision to go for the A350 as it currently only operates the A330/A340 family. The A350 will replace both types and for a LCC that is a big advantage in terms of fleet management. Note that AK is also settled on one aircraft type only, the A320.

MH's wide body decision is more complex as it has a variety of aircraft that needs replacement. That is why the MH management is taking their own sweet time to arrive at a decision.

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE (jadivindra @ Jun 7 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope that air asia goes for th e A350 XWB and not the A350, SQ did not want to take those aircraft when offered because there wa no difference to the current A330 as the A350 has the same fuselage as the A330. But not the A350XWB as its a new plane all together.,with wider cabin.

Some one please tell Tony. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

That is old news. The original 350 model that was launched soon after Boeing unveiled the 7E7 (now known as 787) has been scrapped and replaced by A350 XWB.


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Posted 08 June 2009 - 05:32 AM

It seems to be a cart race scenario where Air Aisa came from behind (with 2 737 200) then matched the equipment of MH and now is planning to zoom pass the MH bullock cart which is moving at a slow speed.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 08:03 AM

QUOTE (jadivindra @ Jun 8 2009, 05:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It seems to be a cart race scenario where Air Aisa came from behind (with 2 737 200) then matched the equipment of MH and now is planning to zoom pass the MH bullock cart which is moving at a slow speed.

737-300.




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