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MAB Signed MOU for 8 787-9 and 8 737 Max 8 During Najib-Trump Visit


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#141 Mohd Firdaus Bolong

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 02:53 PM

 
Mahathir used a stronger word publicly. Thief.
 
You are missing the point. It is not a question of beli or tak beli. Not a question of 350 vs 787. 
 
But forcing MH to be involved in a charade.


How it is forcing them to be involved in a charade when as the head of state he's announcing something for the flag carrier? And Tun himself with all due respect, wasn't at all perfect during his handling of MAS. Or did MAS suddenly went bad when current PM took office? But thats for another day and topic.

787-9 is an ideal widebody. We were all feeling a bit of loss when MH retired all of its 777. To have another series added to the airline is a Godsend for me as a boeing fan.

#142 jahur

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 03:14 PM

Now just hope mab doesnt skiddle out of mou deal. Or we'll have Supertrumps twitter tirade inbound and the PM has achieved continued fail streak at our expense. Haha

#143 Amirul Mazlan

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 03:34 PM

To order 8 pieces of this composite plane and after that straight to Europe to look for better deal on used 330s and Neos just doesnt add up.

Dont talk about fleet flexibility, Malaysia Airlines cant afford it yet. They are not in the same league as SQ KL or AF or anyone for God's sake.

It will only look right if they decided 15 789 for 330 replacements but thats not what PB is looking for. He's looking for more buses.

#144 Alif A. F.

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 03:44 PM

How it is forcing them to be involved in a charade when as the head of state he's announcing something for the flag carrier? And Tun himself with all due respect, wasn't at all perfect during his handling of MAS. Or did MAS suddenly went bad when current PM took office? But thats for another day and topic.

787-9 is an ideal widebody. We were all feeling a bit of loss when MH retired all of its 777. To have another series added to the airline is a Godsend for me as a boeing fan.


It is not about that.

Everyone here is concern that some inexperienced elected government officials and officers are meddling into MAB business strategy.

#145 Mushrif A

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 04:00 PM

How it is forcing them to be involved in a charade when as the head of state he's announcing something for the flag carrier? And Tun himself with all due respect, wasn't at all perfect during his handling of MAS. Or did MAS suddenly went bad when current PM took office? But thats for another day and topic.

787-9 is an ideal widebody. We were all feeling a bit of loss when MH retired all of its 777. To have another series added to the airline is a Godsend for me as a boeing fan.



Ok, so you cant see the wood for the trees as you are blinded by your love for the 789.

I like the 787 too. And I too would like MH to have the 787 in its fleet. But that's still not the point here.

Btw, the YDP Agong didn't make any announcement for the flag carrier.

#146 Alif A. F.

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 07:00 PM

Since 787-9 is now thrust into the picture, perhaps MAB should establish a separate division for that kind of fleet specifically for Ultra Long Haul routes. MAB should make it work.

West coast of North America is within reach from KUL.

#147 BC Tam

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 08:25 PM

Since 787-9 is now thrust into the picture, perhaps MAB should establish a separate division for that kind of fleet specifically for Ultra Long Haul routes. MAB should make it work.

West coast of North America is within reach from KUL.

Hahahah ! :D

(good one)



#148 Roy Chin

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 08:30 PM

Since 787-9 is now thrust into the picture, perhaps MAB should establish a separate division for that kind of fleet specifically for Ultra Long Haul routes. MAB should make it work.

West coast of North America is within reach from KUL.

 

Malaysia Airlines X?  :rofl:  :rofl:



#149 leon t

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 10:35 AM

MAB did not confirm any order for the 8 787s.  It is just a MOU only and is nothing concrete.  It is not an order.



#150 geoff.leo

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 11:24 AM

The B787 and the A350 are uber efficient.

 

Although they were both designed for long haul missions, their efficiency means that they can also be deployed for regional flights profitably. Many 787 and 350 operators do that. It gives an airline options. So MAS shouldn't have any problems finding destinations to fly them to.

 

Like many here, I was initially surprised that only 8 B789s were ordered. But looking into the details, it's more of leveraging on the existing B737 MAX orders and bringing the wide-body requirements into play. It wasn't a typical outright wide-body only order. This order only addresses the medium term.

 

Airbus is still very much in the picture for the wide-body replacement exercise. 6 A359s and 8 B789s simply ain't enough.


With regards to all the government/PM/BN bashing on the nature of the 787 orders, it's still better than having me as Prime Minister.

 

I would have made MAS order something like 50 B787s, 50 B777Xs and a dozen B747-8s for good measure.

 

Nevermind that I can't think of where to fly these planes to.

 

It looks good and that's good enough.

 

#getyourprioritiesright  :rofl:  :crazy:  ::8P:: 



#151 Rabloo

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 09:15 AM

Since 787-9 is now thrust into the picture, perhaps MAB should establish a separate division for that kind of fleet specifically for Ultra Long Haul routes. MAB should make it work.

West coast of North America is within reach from KUL.

 

787-9 had always been in the picture. MH has been evaluating the 787-9 v A330neo for quite a while now. It gives MH the flexibility of continuing the regional expansion and when the numbers are right, explore the ultra long haul.



#152 David.W

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 10:36 PM

What if MAB drops the a330neo for more 787 to replace the current a330s in the future?

#153 flee

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 12:01 AM

What if MAB drops the a330neo for more 787 to replace the current a330s in the future?

If you look at the current orders of 6 A350s and 8 B787s - that is 14 aircraft, roughly similar in number to the B777s they used to have. These aircraft should be configured for the long haul network with crew rest areas.

 

They will still need a regional aircraft to operate the Asia Pacific routes. Lets wait and see whether Airbus took the warning and give them a better price this time... 



#154 Mohd Azizul Ramli

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 04:09 AM

With all the talks about expansion to the US, Europe etc, does MH planning to stop with its existing agreement with Emirates? For how long the agreement has to be effective before any review to it can be done? 5 years?



#155 Vicknesh PS

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Posted Today, 10:26 AM

After reading multiple articles on this deal, the B789 deal has stumped many. It has too great a range...
It works only if MAS is planning some long range thin routes ie US cities or European cities?

The A330neo has the best fit in terms of capacity, range, maintenance.

On a personal note, would be great if MAB flew to Hawaii with EK providing the feeder service. Not sure if there is a good enough demand though....(yes maybe too many players with AAX and Scoot in the mix)

Edited by Vicknesh PS, Today, 10:27 AM.


#156 Amirul Mazlan

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Posted Today, 12:52 PM

They can fetch a premium if they can do KUL HNL non stop but is there a big demand for that? Maybe possible if Malaysia can be included in Visa Waiver Program.

Hows D7 doing anyway?

#157 flee

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Posted Today, 12:53 PM

After reading multiple articles on this deal, the B789 deal has stumped many. It has too great a range...
It works only if MAS is planning some long range thin routes ie US cities or European cities?

The A330neo has the best fit in terms of capacity, range, maintenance.

On a personal note, would be great if MAB flew to Hawaii with EK providing the feeder service. Not sure if there is a good enough demand though....(yes maybe too many players with AAX and Scoot in the mix)

 

That is why the general consensus is that this MoU is a politically motivated one. Lets see if it comes to fruition.

 

As for Hawaii, even Scoot is not confident of demand from SIN - that is why they are operating it via Japan. Hawaii is an expensive leisure destination and I doubt we will see a direct service anytime soon.


Edited by flee, Today, 12:54 PM.





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