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MAB Orders 10 Boeing 737 MAX 10 with Lie-Flat Business Class Seats


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#21 David.W

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 12:55 PM

 

a narrow body product that is much more premium than the wide body product  :rofl:

MH should market it as the "world's first private jet experience"



#22 BC Tam

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 02:03 PM

MH should market it as the "world's first private jet experience"

Doubt if they can find sufficient real estate onboard the MAX 10 to fit in the bowling alley and putting green though :D

#23 Roy Chin

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 04:39 PM

MH should market it as the "world's first private jet experience"

 

where does the pax comes from?  :crazy:



#24 Mohd Suhaimi Fariz

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 05:20 PM

I am confused - what are your expectations?

 

Current 333 with ~90% with direct aisle access - not premium/revolutionary enough and should have direct aisle access for all J pax and it's not good enough compared to SQ

Future 737-Max10  with 100% direct aisle access - too revolutionary/over the top and who is going to fly MH on regional routes?

Fares too expensive - can't compete with AK/OD

Fares too cheap - can't compete with SQ service

 

Some people are just wired to be negative.



#25 Izanee

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:47 PM

I don't see why not.. QR and TK have narrowbody aircraft with premium business cabins to fly short to medium haul routes...

#26 Josh T

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 05:27 AM

Don't get me wrong. I think it's great that MH are kern on having flatbeds un business in the 737-MAX10. I can see it flying to Perth, India and China (especially on overnight or late night flights)

#27 flee

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:34 AM

I don't see why not.. QR and TK have narrowbody aircraft with premium business cabins to fly short to medium haul routes...

Yes, I think that it is good that MH is trying to upgrade their business class in B737s - the questions in my mind is whether MH can get good yields from them and whether there is sufficient premium pax demand on these flights.



#28 David.W

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 11:11 PM

-Direct Isle Access

-New Design

-From Thomson Aero

-16 lie flat beds

-INNOVATIVE SINGLE ISLE

could this be what PB is talking about?

 

yes please!  :clapping:  :clapping:  :clapping:

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Edited by David.W, 22 July 2017 - 11:17 PM.


#29 flee

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 02:22 PM

Malaysia Airlines will launch a radical upgrade to its Boeing 737 business class, adopting lie-flat suites with direct aisle access for all passengers.
 
The airline will debut the seats on its new Boeing 737 MAX 10 fleet, due for delivery from 2021, with CEO Peter Bellew confirming to Australian Business Traveller they will use an all-new staggered design from Thompson Aero Seating. 
 
Thompson provided the new business class seats for Malaysian flag-carrier's Airbus A330 fleet as well as first class and business class for the forthcoming Airbus A350s
 
The Irish company also developed the revolutionary Vantage design chosen by US airline JetBlue for its transcontinental Airbus A321 Mint class, which sees each pair of business class seats followed by a single seat with sliding suite-like privacy doors...
 


#30 Lim Kar Yong

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 03:00 PM

 

Malaysia Airlines will launch a radical upgrade to its Boeing 737 business class, adopting lie-flat suites with direct aisle access for all passengers.
 
The airline will debut the seats on its new Boeing 737 MAX 10 fleet, due for delivery from 2021, with CEO Peter Bellew confirming to Australian Business Traveller they will use an all-new staggered design from Thompson Aero Seating. 
 
Thompson provided the new business class seats for Malaysian flag-carrier's Airbus A330 fleet as well as first class and business class for the forthcoming Airbus A350s
 
The Irish company also developed the revolutionary Vantage design chosen by US airline JetBlue for its transcontinental Airbus A321 Mint class, which sees each pair of business class seats followed by a single seat with sliding suite-like privacy doors...
 

 

 

This is good news - looks like game changer of 737 aircraft. If only the A350 and A330 would have all direct aisle access as well! 

On the other hand, hope that the Y class would be decent as well, hopefully improvement from the current seats. 



#31 Kenneth Chong WT

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:05 PM

I could use like a hammock style foot rest and more pockets for storage...and stand alone cup holder...

Edited by Kenneth Chong WT, 31 July 2017 - 09:07 PM.


#32 Amirul Mazlan

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 01:53 AM

2021.. This beats Qantas announcement of Perth service by miles

#33 flee

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:27 PM

The latest MoU for 8 Boeing 787-9s will mean that the MAB firm orders for the 737 Max 8 has been further eroded. So the orders are now:

 

8 B787-9 (MoU)

10 B737M10 (conversion of firm order)

7 B737M8 (firm order)

 

I think that there are still 25 options on B737s. Lets see what MAB does with them.


Edited by flee, 14 September 2017 - 07:28 PM.


#34 David.W

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:43 PM

Don't be surprised if there will be top up orders in the future. MAB is desperate for wide bodies they are willing to sacrifice or delay the 737Max plan?



#35 flee

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:47 PM

Don't be surprised if there will be top up orders in the future. MAB is desperate for wide bodies they are willing to sacrifice or delay the 737Max plan?

 

I think that they have already said they have surplus B738s at the moment. So the fleet utilisation is lower than it should be and they won't mind the Max delays if the oil price does not shoot up again.

 

I think that they now have to original 25 options PLUS the extra 8 they signed up for yesterday - so there are 32 B737 Max 8 options now.



#36 Mohd Azizul Ramli

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 04:30 PM

Sharing the info from Jahur in bits corresponding to its respective threads for order of forum discussion.

 

Boeing 737 Fleet

We currently have 54 aircraft in our fleet of 737-800s with 48 actually operating. 6 of these aircraft are being handed back to lessors in December 2017 and are currently going through a lease return maintenance programme. In 2018, we will operate 44 737 aircraft daily, with 3 in maintenance and 1 available spare.

The current remaining 48 aircraft in the 737-800 fleet start reaching end of lease from early 2019. In 2016, we made 25 firm orders for the 737-MAX8 aircraft and 25 options. The aircraft were ordered as pure replacements for existing planes and arrive on the same month that the other aircraft are retired. The total value of this Boeing MAX8 order of 50 is USD$5.5 billion. The order also had an option to take delivery of some of the larger Boeing MAX9 aircraft instead of the MAX8.

In June 2017, we made a new agreement with Boeing to allow us to choose their new larger MAX10 aircraft for 10 out of the firm order of 25. With this, Malaysia Airlines can decide to take either the MAX8 or MAX10. The MAX10 aircraft are expected to commence delivery in early 2021.

In September 2017, we signed a non-binding MOU with Boeing to facilitate our negotiations with Boeing to change 8 of the firm 737 orders to 8 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft. In addition to this, we also placed purchase rights for an additional 8 737MAX8, all while maintaining the total firm order at 25.

The Boeing MAX aircraft will be financed through pre-existing deposits that Malaysia Airlines paid to Boeing on older aircraft and sale and leaseback deals with a variety of international leasing companies.The aircraft will not be owned by Malaysia Airlines but are planned to be on operating leases which is a norm in modern airlines. The Boeing MAX aircraft will have a lease period of some 12 years.

While certain aspects of this fleet update may seem technical in nature, I hope it offers some clarity on the status of our overall fleet and on plans, moving forward. In all of this, I would like to reiterate that as of now, we have a firm order of 25 Boeing 737 aircraft with everything else being optional.



#37 Johan Z

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 08:34 PM

Peter Bellew posted some pictures on instagram, which could be 737 lie-flat seats.

 

https://www.instagra...-by=bellewpeter

 

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Edited by Johan Z, 22 September 2017 - 08:36 PM.


#38 Mohd Azizul Ramli

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 03:28 AM

Yes it is. Refer to David's post #28 above. However, this is more likely for the 10 MAX 10, not the 15 MAX 8.



#39 flee

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 08:54 AM

Yes, lie flats are only required for the longer, regional flights.



#40 Lim Kar Yong

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 08:58 AM

I thk the lie flat for Max10 would really be great. Great for overnight 5-6 hr flights. But a bit disappointed that the A350 biz product is the same as A330 but I guess a slight improvement from the current A380 biz. 






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