Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted January 25, 2007 They say, pictures do not lie: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1166733/L/ So is this a new addition to the fleet with temporary registration (second hand) or a replacement to the BBJ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamizi Hj Tamby 1 Report post Posted January 25, 2007 Hmm,let's see...perhaps the A319CJ is the replacement for the F28? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Ong 1 Report post Posted January 25, 2007 Hmm,let's see...perhaps the A319CJ is the replacement for the F28? TUDM has an F-28? Didn't know that because I thought they only operate a 737NG (BBJ), Gulfstream IV, and the Bombardier CRJ Global Express Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fendy Report post Posted January 25, 2007 TUDM has an F-28? Didn't know that because I thought they only operate a 737NG (BBJ), Gulfstream IV, and the Bombardier CRJ Global Express Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted January 25, 2007 TUDM has an F-28? Didn't know that because I thought they only operate a 737NG (BBJ), Gulfstream IV, and the Bombardier CRJ Global Express No G-IV in the inventory. Maybe you meant the Falcon 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted January 25, 2007 I don't think it will be a replacement, just an addition. Basle is the place for interior fitting, just like the BBJ. It could stay there for up to a year. But in the end I guess we would have another target to spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted January 25, 2007 RMAF is operating a BBJ for the king. Don’t understand, why they bought A319CJ for the pm instead of another BBJ. Perhaps someone can shed some lights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mokhzani 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 Boeing BBJ are reserve for Agong, Sultans, and TYT Negeri and PM. DPM usually use falcon or Global Express. 1 BBJ is sometime not enough especially if Pak Lah need to make his overseas trip and at the same time the Agong or the Sultan wants to go overseas too.... Those aircraft were own by the Govt but operated (of course) by RMAF. If you want to use the a/c, even for the Sultans, U need to get approval from the PM. But it was actually process and approve by certain officer in the Prime Minister's Office, whe because of his "invaluable service" to one of the State, he'll be awarded the "Datukship" always.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) I wonder if the A319CJ was ever part of the A380 package ordered by PMB? And pricing advantage led them to choose the A319CJ? One would have thought that ordering another BBJ would be the better choice given common spares, crew, logistics etc with the existing BBJ. Edited January 26, 2007 by mushrif a Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seng Lim 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 This plane is really gonna be something interesting - politically as it appears on the front page of Malaysia Kini with their preview message : Who does this jetliner belong to? That's the USD60million question. Watch this space. Details to follow. http://www.malaysia-today.net/index.shtml Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) I wonder if the A319CJ was ever part of the A380 package ordered by PMB? And pricing advantage led them to choose the A319CJ? One would have thought that ordering another BBJ would be the better choice given common spares, crew, logistics etc with the existing BBJ. This is an Air Force / Government property, therefore the commonality issue does not arise. What is more important is the percentage from the sale and the percentage of the maintenance later. Edited January 26, 2007 by Radzi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 Here's more: http://www.mykmu.net/modules.php?name=News...r=0&thold=0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 This is an Air Force / Government property, therefore the commonality issue does not arise. What is more important is the percentage from the sale and the percentage of the maintenance later. Now that's one very honest answer! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E Faizal 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 This new aircraft for TUDM was with LAN Airlines Airbus A319-132 -D-AVXC (cn 2572) ... It is 60Million USD price... Why should by a second hand ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 Looks like one really controversial aeroplane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seng Lim 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 Full article is out (in english) : http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/corridors.php?itemid=2104 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fitri Shukri 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 Full article is out (in english) : http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/corridors.php?itemid=2104 Its fun to read the comments of bloggers underneath the article. Maybe can promote Malaysian Wings as well to the bloggers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 This new aircraft for TUDM was with LAN Airlines Airbus A319-132 -D-AVXC (cn 2572) ... It is 60Million USD price... Why should by a second hand ? The aircraft wasn't with LAN, the registration was. It is a temporary registration used by Airbus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Smith 1 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 No G-IV in the inventory. Maybe you meant the Falcon 2000.There's no Falcon 2000, its a Falcon 900. Perhaps, Badawi just wanted another jet so he has some more choice on his frequent visits to PER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kee Hooi Yen 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 At least the plane doesn't look like a 'flying toothpaste' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 Nice CJ . I'm sure the gov. will be sending all of you who pay taxes a thank you card for the lovely present Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 Nice CJ . I'm sure the gov. will be sending all of you who pay taxes a thank you card for the lovely present Yeah. "Thank you for your tax ringgit that pays for this aircraft. Please send some more for the maintenance" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Smith 1 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 or complimentary Nasi Campur from Badawi's new restaurant! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rozhan 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2007 This is nothing. Might as well take 2 (or more) of the B747-4H6s withdrawn from MAS fleet and convert to the likes of 'Air Force One', or Japan's twin gov jets. It is befitting of an 'advanced' country like Malaysia which has the tallest, highest, longest and prestigeous off all things on the planet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted January 29, 2007 (edited) I just saw the PM on the prime time news on TV3. During the press interview after arriving from London, he was asked about the plane - the A319CJ. Either he is very naive, ill-advised or just plain ignorant or stupid or all of the above. He said and I quote" kita sewa, kita tak beli. ........Bukan duit kita. Kita sewa dari Penerbangan Malaysia." Penerbangan Malaysia refers to PMB, the lessor of many aircraft in MH's fleet. PMB is owned directly by Khazanah/ Ministry of Finance, Inc. So, is the PM saying that Khazanah/ MoF Inc is not the Government? Not financed ultimately by the Malaysian taxpayer? Maybe since yesterday Khazanah/ MoF Inc changed ownership and is now owned by an individual tauke or a foreign entity! Seriously, I think the PM was cornered with that question and he didn't have anything intelligent to say, in my opinion. Hence the stupid remark that PMB is not owned by the Govn. Edited January 29, 2007 by mushrif a Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
