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#21 KK Lee

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 06:24 PM

Sounds familiar, BA is facing the same issue.
 
To be honest Darwin is not worth the investment, MI is trying to make it work with tag-on with Cairns. Royal Brunei, AirAsia and Garuda have left long time ago. 
 
I am particularly more worried with the statement: Bellew said four routes were on the red list, with flights to Australia and New Zealand, in particular, suffering."
 
Which AU/NZ routes are currently bleeding? 

After a fsc behave like LCC, customers will consider the airlines and pricing like LCC.

Even if the airlines upgraded itself, it will take a few years for customers to be convinced and pay the premium pricing.

Edited by KK Lee, 23 June 2017 - 06:28 PM.


#22 Mohd Azizul Ramli

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 08:15 PM

KL-DARWIN route losing money in 10 years - CEO

https://www.nst.com....rs-says-mas-ceo


Please terminate the other 3 routes too.

KUL-AKL is one of them. MH only have 1 destination in New Zealand.

Bellew should do news like this more often.

#23 Craig

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Posted 24 June 2017 - 12:53 AM

MH doesn't offer any service that warrant premium pricing from its competitors. Hence, most would only choose MH if its fare is the cheapest.

Don't most people shop based on fares now - even if it's RM1 difference? SQ with its ultra-luxurious Y (kinda oxymoron if you ask me) is cutting back on Y services.

 

I am particularly more worried with the statement: Bellew said four routes were on the “red list”, with flights to Australia and New Zealand, in particular, suffering."

4 routes on the "red list" but he didn't say all 4 routes are AU/NZ.

 

I would take it with a grain of salt - DRW is an example (he said 10 years but MH barely served there for the past 5 years). On another article, he did say he wanted to increase capacity to AU/NZ.

 

From AUSBT:

 

However, the airline says that despite dumping Darwin "we are working toward announcing frequency increases to Adelaide, Auckland and Perth in the future, while Sydney and Melbourne will likely see peak season capacity increases with our flagship A380s".

PER/SYD/MEL capacity increases aren't possible at the moment due to bilateral restrictions. AKL makes sense during their summer.


Edited by Craig, 24 June 2017 - 12:57 AM.


#24 Mike P

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 10:57 AM

Blame DRW not able to entice more tourists and hence lead to termination of service? or blame MH for not able to attract more pax on the flight and hence lead to this aftermath?



#25 Raj

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:35 PM

BNE on the cards and plans for PER double daily.

https://www.ausbt.co...lights-to-perth

#26 Josh T

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:16 AM

They really need to return to BNE. The double daily PER flights will be with the 738 only but it makes commercial sense to use them, especially when competition is so high. Having flatbeds on their 737-MAX10 will make them competitive but not with the recliner business seats and the very tight pitch in economy on the current 738s.

#27 flee

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 08:30 AM

Having flatbeds on their 737-MAX10 will make them competitive but not with the recliner business seats and the very tight pitch in economy on the current 738s.

Yes, the current B738s are only OK for 1 or 2 hour flights. Even then, I still avoid flying them.



#28 GeO

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 02:21 AM

Currently MH using A333 for KUL-DPS-KUL on MH714/715.If they upgraded it during my trip to Bali last May, I would have used MH instead of OD.



#29 Mr.Bandit

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:50 AM

they got excess of A330 as for now due to their A380 are flying Tokyo and Incheon route.

#30 flee

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 09:27 AM

Currently MH using A333 for KUL-DPS-KUL on MH714/715.If they upgraded it during my trip to Bali last May, I would have used MH instead of OD.

KUL-DPS is a high demand route and they are trying to increase capacity. Airasia has two daily flights operated by A330s and one or two flights operated by the A320Neo (6 more seats). 


they got excess of A330 as for now due to their A380 are flying Tokyo and Incheon route.

I think that its the opposite - they are short of A330s and are using the A380 on the more premium yielding routes to free up A330s for routes that require more capacity. This is done during periods of peak demand.



#31 Craig

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 09:58 AM

they got excess of A330 as for now due to their A380 are flying Tokyo and Incheon route.

They have been using 333 to DPS since late May / early June and the 333 was used to NRT/ICN then. 

 

KUL-DPS is a high demand route and they are trying to increase capacity. Airasia has two daily flights operated by A330s and one or two flights operated by the A320Neo (6 more seats). 

Indeed it is. But it'll be back to a 738 for W17/18 due to lower demand (and also the plane is needed for capacity increases to BOM/ICN).

 

Planned 333 flights according to Bellew include BOM, TPE, CAN, DEL, DPS, 2nd daily to HKG (and BNE but MH can't fly to BNE unless there's a new bilateral in place or MAVCOM forces OD/D7 to surrender their unused seat allocation). Now if only MH can sign/announce the 330 leasing deal sooner. We've been hearing that the deal is going to be announced in a few weeks for a few months now ;)


Edited by Craig, 12 August 2017 - 10:05 AM.


#32 flee

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:46 AM

MH is using LCC tactics, announcing their intentions way ahead of time...

#33 GeO

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:58 PM

KUL-DPS is a high demand route and they are trying to increase capacity. Airasia has two daily flights operated by A330s and one or two flights operated by the A320Neo (6 more seats). 


I think that its the opposite - they are short of A330s and are using the A380 on the more premium yielding routes to free up A330s for routes that require more capacity. This is done during periods of peak demand.

Yeah. When I went to DPS in May AK is still using A320. But for DPS-KUL-BOM on XT using A330. Load for DPS-KUL on the A330 was quite full also.  



#34 Kee Hooi Yen

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 07:07 AM

I remember when I flew with MH KUL-DPS back in year 2004, I had option with AM departure B772 and PM departure A330. Of course those days are gone.


Edited by Kee Hooi Yen, 13 August 2017 - 07:07 AM.


#35 suadrif

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 06:25 PM

I remember when I flew with MH KUL-DPS back in year 2004, I had option with AM departure B772 and PM departure A330. Of course those days are gone.

 

Year 2014, purposely choose B777 to and fro DPS as it was going to be retire. The flight was full both sector. I really miss those thickly padded seats!



#36 Izanee

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 08:44 AM

The most comfy economy seats were those MH 772s with their 34' pitch!

#37 KJ Lim

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 09:20 AM

Even the 744 seats were good

#38 Riza

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 12:32 PM

Missed those days where one can opt for 332 333 and 772 for BKI run.

#39 KJ Lim

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 08:03 PM

I used to take the 777-200 from BKI to KUL

#40 Craig

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 07:32 AM

MH applied for 3 weekly HGH services beginning FEB18 (in addition to the 3 weekly SUB which will begin DEC17).

 

In addition, AK/D7 applied for new frequencies to MLE/SUB/FUK/HGH whilst OD applied for new services to KMG and TSN.






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