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MAS New Route/Frequency Application


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#1 Craig

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:07 AM

From MAVCOM, MH has applied and been approved for the following new/resumed routes and frequency increases (doesn't mean they will but they intend to do the following):

 

BKI-NNG  2x738

BKI-TSN  3x738

KUL-PVG  7x333 + 7x738 (announced)

KUL-HAK  2x738 (announced)

KUL-CKG  3x738

KUL-CTU  5x738

KUL-FOC  3x738 (announced)

KUL-NKG  3x738 (announced)

KUL-WUH  3x738 (announced)

 

KUL-DEL  4x333 + 6x738 (reflected in GDS)

KUL-BOM  5x333 + 5x738

 

KUL-SUB  4x738

KUL-ICN  10x333

KUL-TPE  11x738

KUL-HAN  10x738


Edited by Craig, 21 June 2017 - 12:19 AM.


#2 jani

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:22 AM

KUL-SUB is welcome. Was shocked to find it wasn't flying there.



#3 JuliusWong

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 08:14 AM

KUL-SUB is welcome. Was shocked to find it wasn't flying there.

MH used to fly there with their own metal for some time until suspension in Jan 6, 2012, it was under Ahmad Jauhari's era.

 

http://travel.cnn.co...-routes-470821/



#4 Lim Kar Yong

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 09:26 AM

KUL-ICN increased to 10x! Loads must have been very healthy to justify the increase. 



#5 BC Tam

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:48 PM

KUL-ICN increased to 10x! Loads must have been very healthy to justify the increase.

But still unable to justify revisiting BKI-ICN ..... :)

#6 Josh T

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 09:57 PM

They need to return to BNE.

#7 Tom/PER

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 11:46 AM

http://www.routesonl...late-july-2017/

DRW flights cancelled from the end of July..

Edited by Tom/PER, 22 June 2017 - 11:46 AM.


#8 flee

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:27 PM

They need to return to BNE.

They might once their wide body aircraft shortage is eased. Right now, the A333s are sent on routes that have the higher yields.



#9 Craig

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:46 PM

But still unable to justify revisiting BKI-ICN ..... :)

And compete with a myriad of LCC operating that route?

 

They need to return to BNE.

 

They might once their wide body aircraft shortage is eased. Right now, the A333s are sent on routes that have the higher yields.

Not possible unless D7/MH/OD reduces capacity/frequency to MEL/SYD/BNE/PER. Malaysian carriers only have 480 unallocated weekly seats to those cities.

 

In the link referenced above, D7 also applied for 7 weekly A333 flights to BNE recently and had exhausted almost all MY carriers capacity to AU. So forget about 380 to SYD/MEL during the summer peak unless there's a new bilateral in place or someone reduces their flights.


Edited by Craig, 22 June 2017 - 02:51 PM.


#10 Tom/PER

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:05 PM

So what about the rumoured OD services to SYD and MEL once 'if' their A333's arrive later this year?

Does this dispelled this rumour and provide an indication that they'll be used on Jeddah flights?

There was a posting on a well known pilots forum earlier that OD were going to do trans Tasman services via an Aussie port.

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:18 PM

And compete with a myriad of LCC operating that route?

 

I think what BC was referring to was the lack of Malaysian based airline plying this route, which is currently 100% covered by Korean carriers.  Back in the old days MH flew this route with A330 along with KE and OZ.  Of the currently airlines plying this route - RS, LJ, ZE and 7C, perhaps only ZE is truly LCC?.  Even the best low cost carrier in the world don't dare to touch this route.



#12 Craig

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 11:56 PM

I think what BC was referring to was the lack of Malaysian based airline plying this route, which is currently 100% covered by Korean carriers. 

That's true, but most of the traffic are ex-KR especially in the winter. If MH flew this route, it'd pretty much rely on O&D between BKI and Seoul. Korean carriers that fly this route rely on O&D plus their domestic Korean market and maybe China/Japan making it more viable. 


Here's the list of recently approved MY-AU city pairs (from the Malaysian government):

- 4 weekly A333 KUL-BNE by D7 (1,508 seats each week)

- 4 weekly A333 KUL-MEL by OD (1,568 seats each week)

 

Remaining capacity: 480 seats each week


Edited by Craig, 22 June 2017 - 11:57 PM.


#13 Kee Hooi Yen

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 05:42 AM

OD's A333 has denser seating configure than D7

#14 tktoh

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 03:13 PM

KL-DARWIN route losing money in 10 years - CEO

https://www.nst.com....rs-says-mas-ceo

#15 Chris Tan

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 03:26 PM

KL-DARWIN route losing money in 10 years - CEO

https://www.nst.com....rs-says-mas-ceo

Losing money for 10 years? Is he counting the combined number of years MAS has been flying to DRW? They only resumed flights in 2013



#16 jahur

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 04:24 PM

Losing money for 10 years? Is he counting the combined number of years MAS has been flying to DRW? They only resumed flights in 2013

Should be combined. With the way how mas operates their yield management, many sectors are not profiting even with high loads. They only seem to be focusing volume now. Cant blame much also as mas customers are mostly promo low end fare seekers premium pax have fled. Majority of fliers in malaysia would just opt for the cheapest fare on any airline regardless of products and services onboard.

#17 KK Lee

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 04:43 PM

Should be combined. With the way how mas operates their yield management, many sectors are not profiting even with high loads. They only seem to be focusing volume now. Cant blame much also as mas customers are mostly promo low end fare seekers premium pax have fled. Majority of fliers in malaysia would just opt for the cheapest fare on any airline regardless of products and services onboard.

 

MH doesn't offer any service that warrant premium pricing from its competitors. Hence, most would only choose MH if its fare is the cheapest.



#18 JuliusWong

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 05:12 PM

 

MH doesn't offer any service that warrant premium pricing from its competitors. Hence, most would only choose MH if its fare is the cheapest.

Sounds familiar, BA is facing the same issue.

 

To be honest Darwin is not worth the investment, MI is trying to make it work with tag-on with Cairns. Royal Brunei, AirAsia and Garuda have left long time ago. 

 

I am particularly more worried with the statement: Bellew said four routes were on the “red list”, with flights to Australia and New Zealand, in particular, suffering."

 

Which AU/NZ routes are currently bleeding? 



#19 Alif A. F.

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 06:00 PM

BKI-PER probably is one of them.

With only 1x per week? Better deploy the aircraft somewhere else more productive.

#20 kandiah k

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 06:24 PM

Maybe KUL-PER as well




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