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#1 flee

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 10:20 AM

Boeing Faces Airline Tug of War Over Proposed ‘797’ Jet Design

 

Boeing Co. may need to rethink one of the most distinctive features of its proposed new mid-range jet -- a small cargo hold -- to win over customers in Asia, potentially the plane’s largest market.
 
The manufacturer faces a “cargo conundrum,” for the jetliner dubbed the 797 by industry observers, said Domhnal Slattery, founder and chief executive officer of Avolon Holdings Ltd., the world’s third-largest aircraft leasing firm.
 
The big three U.S. carriers and their counterparts across the Pacific have very different views on how much baggage and freight the airliners should haul, with Asian airlines pressing for greater below-deck capacity, Slattery said. The disagreement potentially calls into question the distinctive oval-shaped fuselage that Boeing is planning for the 797, which sacrifices space for goods in favor of improved aerodynamics and passenger comfort.
 
“The U.S. majors have an appetite for less cargo in the belly than the Asians,” he said on the sidelines of the Americas conference for the International Society of Transport Aircraft Trading. “Typically in the States, it’s bags plus five tons of cargo. The Asians want bags plus 10 tons for this aircraft. So, who do you build it for?”
 
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Exclusive: The Boeing 797 of 2025 will evolve out of this 2018 conceptual rendering of the New Middle-Market Airplane.
 

 

https://jonostrower....-nma-rendering/



#2 S V Choong

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 06:54 AM

B757,767 and 777 stye cockpit windows.... they may as well call it B757MAX! :)

 

B757-8 and B757-9!!


Edited by S V Choong, 15 March 2018 - 06:54 AM.


#3 flee

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 08:20 AM

Fuselage cross section is a new elliptical shape, though.
Looks like it may be called 797-6 and 797-7.

#4 S V Choong

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 11:42 PM

Fuselage cross section is a new elliptical shape, though.
Looks like it may be called 797-6 and 797-7.

Okay but just curious why they are not going back to the 787 windows....

 

Secondly are the cockpit windows the same for 757, 767, 777?  The shape looks the same but are they essentially the same parts?



#5 Chris Tan

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 12:34 AM

Okay but just curious why they are not going back to the 787 windows....
 
Secondly are the cockpit windows the same for 757, 767, 777?  The shape looks the same but are they essentially the same parts?

It's just a concept at this stage, so I wouldn't read too much into this. We'll have to wait years before the actual design is locked in.

#6 flee

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 08:43 AM

It's just a concept at this stage, so I wouldn't read too much into this. We'll have to wait years before the actual design is locked in.

Yes, Jon Ostrower has mentioned that the final design is usually different from the initial concepts.... 



#7 S V Choong

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 05:44 PM

FINALLY, AN AIRCRAFT – THE 797 – THAT ALL PASSENGERS WILL LOVE

https://www.airliner...gers-will-love/

 

Looks like they will have to get the cross section profile right first!



#8 flee

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 09:42 PM

ANALYSIS: How Boeing's NMA could shake up the market

 

 

Read it here: https://www.flightgl...-market-446818/



#9 flee

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Posted 30 March 2018 - 10:02 AM

Singapore CEO: NMA May Fit With Subsidiary

 

Singapore Airlines (SIA) is keeping an open mind about Boeing's new mid-market aircraft (NMA), but not necessarily for mainline flying, the carrier's chief executive said.
 
"Boeing is in the process of sharing more details with us," SIA CEO Goh Choon Phong said. "We will continue to look at it and explore if it will fit into our plan. It would be not necessarily for SIA, but for the group." SIA also operates LCC brand Scoot and narrowbody short-haul carrier SilkAir.
 
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